Question of the Day | 05/07/2009 11:00 pm
Is Elizabeth Edwards making a mistake by staying with husband John? Where do you stand on post-affair reconciliation?

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I feel badly for her, because her husband was a total louse. I guess he has no conscience, or is just that self-centered. I always wish that she and others like her (Hillary C., etc.) would just leave the scoundrels in the dust and begin afresh. It makes me sad that many women seem to have so much of their self-image and existence wrapped up in their husbands. It is not noble to be the cuckolded women and "stand by your man". It’s actually pitiful to do so when they could use that moment to springboard into a new place in life.
In the last few years when news of politicans,artists,anyone famous failed marriage and its because,the were cheats and got caught. I call what happens a JOLLIE, I think oh its a JOLLIE man or woman really isn’t important they are just JOLLIE’s.The reason being this is what Angelina did many times according to herself she goes after other peoples loved one man or woman. She is a viper.So I think another got a Jollie.
How can we judge what others do? All I know is that adultery is a couples problem and a couples decision and has to be worked out between the two people involved. Why some people stay together is something they have to work out between themselves and hopefully with a qualified and objective counselor. The finest book I’ve ever read is on Adult Relationships by David Richo; I also have the CD recordings of his workshops on this subject. I wish I knew way back when what I know after I’ve read and listened and become so much wiser about why I react certain ways, and why others do the same thing. So, I won’t pretend to judge either one of them. The fact that she was his ally after knowing about his indecretions and complicit in his presidential campaign tells me that she wasn’t being quite honest with us either. Also, writing the Tell All Book and going on every talk show—I don’t know—it doesn’t make sense to me. And the baby? DNA please; if I were her, I would insist on knowing.
As I said last week, for every cook pot there’s a lid. I have other concerns to worry about for the time being…
I think the key word is being the enabler, I know I did it in my life. Then from there it becomes a matter of how many future strikes are enabled until the realization goes beyond the fog, knowing that this process of thier life is not about you, or that you can change the persona of who they are. You can patch and repatch the relationship feeling like the victim or possibly contributor in the process, or you can accept them for who they are and let them go. Some look at infidelity as an addiction, I just think for some whether men or women that it is just part of who they are, just as thier cosmetic features are a part of them. To be or not to be, the only one we can change is ourself. Working in the medical field in this life, doctors wives were very much like Elizabeth Edwards, being true to themselves was not a substantial trade off for thier position or what they had in life, some chose differently in a sense. I know one that gave her husband new quarters in the RV, and another that gave her husband new quarters on the lower level of the house, with neither really letting go of thier material world, for the truth in life. They are probably still playing the game in exchange for the position they have in life, which is an empty life and a bank account.
Looking at Elizabeth Edwards today and the effects of the cancer in the swelling of her tissue and body mass, I could feel for her pain and discomfort, and you can only imagine sleepless nights that are not only consumed by her circumstances but her thoughts of her own mortatlity also. A lot of strenth in the lady, but the time he is taking from her in life, will be a part of his own loss of days in his life. I wish them both peace.
I agree with Frannie—Elizabeth is very ill, has young children—why in the world would she chose a divorce at this point? She might choose her own room in her house, whatever, but to put everyone through a divorce, her own self in a precarious situation (most possibly) regarding health insurance—why would she do that?
I don’t like the fact that she knew about what John was up to and went along with the campaign (that’s a set-up if ever there was one, seems like) and she probably kicks herself in retrospect.
Her book seems a way to vent and tell of her own feelings. It’s her business to do so if she chooses. Those who want to read it can, those who don’t, don’t have to buy it.
In her situation though, who in the world would say, kick him out and go your own way? In reality, she needs him—if only to take out the garbage, bring in the money, pay for her health insurance and raise the kids. That’s something and it seems it’s getting overlooked. He shouldn’t get off so easily as to get "kicked to the curb." There are major responsibilities at his home right now.
I don’t think anyone but the two involved can make that decision.
My heart aches for her and also for him. His misbehaviour has caused extreme pain for all involved.
I Can’t help but believe that they still love each other. In fact I’m sure he has never stopped loving Elizabeth. Just because a man has an affair does not mean he no longer loves his wife….
With her physical condition I believe it would bring on her death a lot sooner if she went through a divorce.
I know that I look at things differently now that I’m an older woman.
When I was Young, an affair would have destroyed me. As I’ve gotten older I think I could handle that better. I was very lucky and never had to deal with the problem.
I would imagine with her illness that sex is not a big thing in their present relationship……..Perhaps his going without a sexual life will be some sort of punishment to him.
I do know someone that has been married as long as they have could be a tremendous support during her final time here on this earth.
Their staying together is probably the very best thing for the children. Losing their mother is going to be devastating to their lives.
I don’t know what their decision will be, but what ever I hope they, as a family, find some Love……peace and Joy in the sharing of their life right now.
I question that her death is imminent.
While I would not wish cancer on anyone, the treatments nowadays have huge success stats. I know I’ll get hit over the head for this but it’s almost as though she’s playing the death card without cause. The smartest thing she could do is change her attitude about her husband - either toss him out or reconcile - because those people with positive attitudes and the least amount of stress are the ones most likely to have a prognosis work in their favor.
One of the biggest problems in today’s society is that everyone thinks of cancer as an automatic death sentence. No longer. Even Stage IV cancer can have a long survival rate. It’s not inconceivable that she could live to 70 or older.
So rather than give her sympathy I say, "Hey, Elizabeth, get it in gear and move forward."
You bring up an interesting point….
I don’t question her diagnosis but staying in this marriage and dealing with the public humiliation can’t be helping her recovery. A great book on the subject is " Love Medicine and Miracles" by Dr. Bernie Siegel.
It takes a great deal of courage to leave any marriage, but even more to leave a public marriage, especially after such a public indescretion. However, to do so may well add years to her life.
I wish her the best :)

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