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Question of the Day | 05/07/2009 11:00 pm

Is Elizabeth Edwards making a mistake by staying with husband John? Where do you stand on post-affair reconciliation?

Candice Bergen, Liz Smith and Joan Ganz Cooney share their thoughts. Would you stand by your man? Join the conversation …
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Liz Smith

Liz Smith | 05/07/2009 11:00 pm

Liz Smith: Elizabeth Edwards 'Made Her Own Big Ethical Mistake'

Who knows if Elizabeth Edwards made a mistake sticking with that bum? That’s entirely up to her.

Where she made her own big ethical mistake is to allow him to go on running for the presidency after he’d revealed his "affair" to her. She was enabling him to prevail while lying, cheating and being a potential scandal for American voters who believed in him. And her current book is a disgrace. I feel sorry for her heartbreak and her illness, but not to the extent that (1) she enabled him to go on being a public fraud in trying for the highest office in the land, and (2) she blames the "other woman" for enticing him into the affair as if he had no willpower and no responsibility for his own actions. 

Joan Ganz Cooney

Joan Ganz Cooney | 05/07/2009 11:00 pm

Joan Ganz Cooney Understands Some of Elizabeth Edwards's Decisions

I don’t know if Elizabeth Edwards is making a mistake staying with her husband because it’s impossible to know how much pain she is in after learning of the affair. She is seriously ill and has two young children so it is understandable that she might be reluctant to ask him to move out. However, I think she is making a mistake writing a book about the affair and publicizing it. She must really hate him to decide to be so publicly punitive. And it’s got to be an embarrassment to their children, particularly their grown daughter. I would have preferred that they work their marriage problems out in private.
Candice Bergen

Candice Bergen | 05/08/2009 7:00 am

Candice Bergen on Edwards Affair

I have to say I agree with Joan on Elizabeth Edwards. The woman has terminal cancer for Christ’s sake and three kids and has been married to someone she describes as a good man for many years. The sleaze in this is, of course, John, but Rielle Hunter — who came up with that ridiculous name herself by the bye; her name used to be something entirely other and she gives women a black eye. We all know the type, they make your hair go all weird and your teeth chatter. They are utterly amoral, without a shred of conscience and tough as tacks. But I seem to have veered off message here. I also, like Joan, question her writing a book but till I read some of it, I’ll hold off on blathering on about it. She is a remarkable woman and I am very sorry she has had so much to endure. Including a husband who is dumb enough to be sucked in by an ambitious cooze. 

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C A Rose
I agree with Joan. I was thinking along the lines that maybe this book was a way for her to relieve some of her angst, so she could return to living out the rest of her life unbridled of his truly hurtful behavior. Personally, I think it is a book that needed to be written, but never published. C A
By C A Rose on 05/08/2009 12:27 am
A R

I feel badly for her, because her husband was a total louse. I guess he has no conscience, or is just that self-centered. I always wish that she and others like her (Hillary C., etc.) would just leave the scoundrels in the dust and begin afresh. It makes me sad that many women seem to have so much of their self-image and existence wrapped up in their husbands. It is not noble to be the cuckolded women and "stand by your man". It’s actually pitiful to do so when they could use that moment to springboard into a new place in life.

 

By A R on 05/10/2009 8:32 am
Di Pa

In the last few years when news of politicans,artists,anyone famous failed marriage and its because,the were cheats and got caught. I call what  happens a JOLLIE, I think oh its a JOLLIE man or woman really isn’t important they are just JOLLIE’s.The reason being this is what Angelina did many times according to herself she goes after other peoples loved one man or woman. She is a viper.So I think another got a Jollie.

By Di Pa on 05/10/2009 3:54 pm
Diana T

How can we judge what others do?  All I know is that adultery is a couples problem and a couples decision and has to be worked out between the two people involved.  Why some people stay together is something they have to work out between themselves and hopefully with a qualified and objective counselor.  The finest book I’ve ever read is on Adult Relationships by David Richo;  I also have the CD recordings of his workshops on this subject.  I wish I knew way back when what I know after I’ve read and listened and become so much wiser about why I react certain ways, and why others do the same thing.  So, I won’t pretend to judge either one of them.  The fact that she was his ally after knowing about his indecretions and complicit in his presidential campaign tells me that she wasn’t being quite honest with us either.  Also, writing the Tell All Book and going on every talk show—I don’t know—it doesn’t make sense to me.  And the baby?  DNA please; if I were her, I would insist on knowing.

As I said last week, for every cook pot there’s a lid.  I have other concerns to worry about for the time being…

By Diana T on 05/08/2009 12:38 am
Laura Ward
I’m sure she published the book because she was getting criticized in the media and she wanted to have her say publicly. I used to read those press reports and thought the media was being unfair to her and should lay off her because of her illness. The bad media should have stayed on her husband, all blame should be on her husband, not the other woman. She must still love him if she doesn’t blame him. As for leaving her husband, since she’s got terminal cancer, there is no point in leaving now. For one, it would uproot the children and it would be too much change in her life which could worsen her health.
By Laura Ward on 05/08/2009 12:47 am
Linda Myers

I think the key word is being the enabler, I know I did it in my life. Then from there it becomes a matter of how many future strikes are enabled until the realization goes beyond the fog, knowing that this process of thier life is not about you, or that you can change the persona of who they are. You can patch and repatch the relationship feeling like the victim or possibly contributor in the process, or you can accept them for who they are and let them go. Some look at infidelity as an addiction, I just think for some whether men or women that it is just part of who they are, just as thier cosmetic features are a part of them. To be or not to be, the only one we can change is ourself. Working in the medical field in this life, doctors wives were very much like Elizabeth Edwards, being true to themselves was not a substantial trade off for thier position or what they had in life, some chose differently in a sense. I know one that gave her husband new quarters in the RV, and another that gave her husband new quarters on the lower level of the house, with neither really letting go of thier material world, for the truth in life. They are probably still playing the game in exchange for the position they have in life, which is an empty life and a bank account.

Looking at Elizabeth Edwards today and the effects of the cancer in the swelling of her tissue and body mass, I could feel for her pain and discomfort, and you can only imagine sleepless nights that are not only consumed by her circumstances but her thoughts of her own mortatlity also. A lot of strenth in the lady, but the time he is taking from her in life, will be a part of his own loss of days in his life. I wish them both peace.

By Linda Myers on 05/08/2009 12:47 am
Frannie Em
Elizabeth Edwards is and always has been her own woman.  She is very ill and has young children, and to put them through a terrible divorce at this time would be cruel.  The challenge that she has right now is to make her transition as easy as possible on her children.  To kick the bum to the curb or divorce him seems so small compared to the courage it takes to face all of the obstacles ahead of her as well as watching her dreams diminish.   I wouldn’t presume to decide for Mrs. Edwards what she should do about John Edwards - what is to be done with a fool?
By Frannie Em on 05/08/2009 12:59 am
Susan S

I agree with Frannie—Elizabeth is very ill, has young children—why in the world would she chose a divorce at this point? She might choose her own room in her house, whatever, but to put everyone through a divorce, her own self in a precarious situation (most possibly) regarding health insurance—why would she do that? 

I don’t like the fact that she knew about what John was up to and went along with the campaign (that’s a set-up if ever there was one, seems like) and she probably kicks herself in retrospect.

Her book seems a way to vent and tell of her own feelings. It’s her business to do so if she chooses. Those who want to read it can, those who don’t, don’t have to buy it.

In her situation though, who in the world would say, kick him out and go your own way? In reality, she needs him—if only to take out the garbage, bring in the money, pay for her health insurance and raise the kids. That’s something and it seems it’s getting overlooked. He shouldn’t get off so easily as to get "kicked to the curb." There are major responsibilities at his home right now. 

By Susan S on 05/12/2009 11:20 pm
Dona Howlett

I don’t think anyone but the two involved can make that decision.

My heart aches for her and also for him.  His misbehaviour has caused extreme pain for all involved.

I Can’t help but believe that they still love each other.  In fact I’m sure he has never stopped loving Elizabeth. Just because a man has an affair does not mean he no longer loves his wife….

With her physical condition I believe it would bring on her death a lot sooner if she went through a divorce.

I know that I look at things differently now that I’m an older woman.

When I was Young, an affair would have destroyed me. As I’ve gotten older I think I could handle that better.  I was very lucky and never had to deal with the problem.

I would imagine with her illness that sex is not a big thing in their present relationship……..Perhaps his going without a sexual life will be some sort of punishment to him.

I do know someone that has been married as long as they have could be a tremendous support during her final time here on this earth.

Their staying together is probably the very best thing for the children.  Losing their mother is going to be devastating to their lives.

I don’t know what their decision will be, but what ever I hope they, as a family, find some Love……peace and Joy in the sharing of their life right now.

 

By Dona Howlett on 05/08/2009 1:52 am
Jeannot Kensinger
You wrote what  I was thinking Dona. I wish them both the very best.
By Jeannot Kensinger on 05/08/2009 6:54 am
phyllis Doyle Pepe
Dona:  Such a wise post and so understanding. Not having kept up with all this Edwards’ stuff, I do find it hard to understand why Elizabeth would want to air all this so publicly. Given that she and John have been public figures perhaps she feels the need to explain her feelings on all this, but why? It’s none of our business.  And to answer the question, forgiveness is key, but again, it’s none of my business and why is she wanting it to be?
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 05/08/2009 8:18 am
Andrea Brandon

I question that her death is imminent.

While I would not wish cancer on anyone, the treatments nowadays have huge success stats. I know I’ll get hit over the head for this but it’s almost as though she’s playing the death card without cause. The smartest thing she could do is change her attitude about her husband - either toss him out or reconcile - because those people with positive attitudes and the least amount of stress are the ones most likely to have a prognosis work in their favor.

One of the biggest problems in today’s society is that everyone thinks of cancer as an automatic death sentence. No longer. Even Stage IV cancer can have a long survival rate. It’s not inconceivable that she could live to 70 or older.

So rather than give her sympathy I say, "Hey, Elizabeth, get it in gear and move forward."

By Andrea Brandon on 05/08/2009 3:04 am
nanchan u

You bring up an interesting point….

I don’t question her diagnosis but staying in this marriage and dealing with the public humiliation can’t be helping her recovery.  A great book on the subject is " Love Medicine and Miracles" by Dr. Bernie Siegel.

It takes a great deal of courage to leave any marriage, but even more to leave a public marriage, especially after such a public indescretion.  However, to do so may well add years to her life.

I wish her the best :)

By nanchan u on 05/08/2009 4:44 am
deber B
nanchan, I believe it is all about the children.   Mothers protect their children and put them first.   It always comes down to sacrifice and I believe Elizabeth Edwards is taking the path of keeping some semblance of order in their children’s lives.  
By deber B on 05/08/2009 6:19 am
Libra Lady
Deber….Good Morning….I agree, Mother’s protect their children, and that’s exactly what she is doing…it’s too bad her husband didn’t feel the same as a father before he wondered off to play!  I think she is staying because of the children, but sometimes that is not good either…..and you wonder what kind of example that sets for the children, who I think he has one or two daughters, do they think that it will be acceptable in their own marriage?  It’s never easy when there is a cheater involved…it wrecks more lives…if some men would just think with their brains instead of their male genitalia!
By Libra Lady on 05/08/2009 8:14 am