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The wowOwow Q & A | 04/16/2009 9:10 am

Gloria Steinem: Still Committing 'Outrageous Acts' at 75

… and other musings about the women’s movement by the feminist icon of the 20th century.

wOw: Your famous "This is what 40/50/60 looks like – we’ve been lying so long, who would know?" has served generations of women (and Oprah said of you last year, "This is what 74 can be!"). How does 75 look and feel to you?  

Steinem: The good news is I don’t feel much different from my younger self – actually, better than I did before my late 30s when the women’s movement came along to rescue me from trying to be somebody else. I’m working at what I love, I’m on the road as much as ever, I have as much energy and I have a chosen family of friends. Once in a while, when I’m doing something very ordinary, a feeling of well-being comes over me and I realize I’m happy.

The bad news is that all this makes me feel immortal – and causes me to plan poorly! I hear about something that happened 20 or 25 years ago, it seems like yesterday, and then I realize that even if I’m very lucky, this is all the time I have left. Even if I make it to 100 as I plan to do, it won’t be long before I’ll have to leave everything I love. I’m trying to use this to help me use time better. It’s not so much about aging now as about mortality.

The odd thing is that I knew this long ago. A stranger just sent me an e-mail with a quote of mine under her sign-off: “Life is time, and time is all there is.” I wrote that in my 30s, but then I went right on thinking I was immortal for the next 40 years. The distance between knowing and understanding, between head and heart, must be the longest distance on earth.

wOw: Are you as happy/healthy/strong/wise? What regimen do you keep — if any — for your spectacular beauty?

It’s more of a feminist heyday now because I see more men who are real partners, real parents to their children and real allies to women.

Steinem: I’m happy, healthy and strong, but I don’t know about wise. Every day I discover how little I know; it’s just that I also discover that other people don’t know as much as I thought.  I also have to tell you that words like “spectacular beauty” never entered my life until I was a feminist. I think I was just a surprise, as if people were saying, “If a woman could get a man, why would she want equal pay?”

Now, I look in the mirror, I see all kinds of age changes, and I think, “Well, I expected that, but not THAT!” Beginning at around 50, I started to realize that our bodies lose what they need to support someone else, and keep what they need to support us. How smart is that!? It’s interesting to watch my body do something that it knows how to do but I don’t.

I’m not health conscious by the standards of vegan joggers, but I’m more conscious than I used to be. I was the classic Midwesterner who grew up on cheeseburgers, malteds and candy bars. I didn’t do sports or know female people who did sports — except maybe Ladies’ Night Bowling — and I thought exercise was for athletes. The only thing I did was dance because I loved it and I thought it might get me out of Toledo and into show business. I’m still hooked on sugar and I still don’t do sports, but I’m a vegetarian because I had a brush with breast cancer more than 20 years ago and I learned the dangers of hormones and chemicals in animal fat.

Which reminds me: Why are there so many races for the cure and for testing, but not for prevention? It’s because there’s no profit in prevention. People who profit from creating carcinogens get angry when you point out the most obvious causes of cancer among people with no family history of it.

Anyway, I try to exercise two or three times a week when I’m not on the road, and I love walking in New York. I’m lucky to have low blood pressure, a lot of endurance, and an Olympic ability to sleep on planes.

When reporters started to ask at about 50 if I would have a facelift, I used to say maybe after 70. Well, here I am and I still wouldn’t. I’d like to say it’s because I can’t imagine Georgia O’Keeffe or Eleanor Roosevelt or Rosa Parks with a facelift, but the truth is I’m afraid I’d become like the guy with a bad toupee; when you’re talking to him, you can’t think of anything else.

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Rebecca G

I love her!!!

Thank you for all you’ve done Ms. Steinem.

By Rebecca G on 04/16/2009 9:36 am
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Thank Goddess for Gloria Steinem. I don’t believe I would have been fortunate to have been one of only 2% of women nationwide in my male dominated field if it hadn’t have been for Gloria Steinem. Her name means equal, civil rights. What an amazing person…she’s accomplished so very much. Bless her and many more years!
By ~ ~~ on 04/17/2009 3:03 am
rocky rocky
What a way to start a day! Oh, thank you, wOw! Gloria Steinem. One of my all time heroes. And thank you so much for the link to the Women’s Media Center; fascinating stuff there I would have missed for sure … Ms Steinem (see? I love writing "Ms," one of the very small = very great changes you helped to bring about), for your insights and for you sharing them with all of us, for your ability to make clear the connections between actions and ideals, for the many often hilarious always stunning ways you would reveal a truth we all had to see … for freeing me and changing my life and my daughter’s life and my granddaughter’s life … for all that and more, I so gratefully so profoundly thank you. 
By rocky rocky on 04/16/2009 9:59 am
David M. Flowers
Interesting comments from Gloria Steinham - as a man, I don’t think men think that they’re superior to women (that’s a female belief) we just acknowledge the obvious - men,boys are different from women, girls and we, as men, prefer being male - not female.  The problem you girls seem to be unable to deal with is that - in most instances - women are defined by men.
By David M. Flowers on 04/16/2009 10:14 am
Rebecca G

David, you don’t think you’re superiot to women and I greatly appreciate you for that.

Sadly, many men truly believe they are not only better than women but a superior species to women.  I dated a man who truly believed, and would seriously repeat, this order of importance;

"Girl, you must remember that there are Men, then Dogs, then Livestock then women. "

He truly, in his heart of hearts, believes that.  If a house was on fire and his Dog and his Girlfriend or Wife was in a burning home, he would save the Dog first.

David, until all men are as intelligent and enlightened as you are, us women still must keep up the fight for equality.

By Rebecca G on 04/16/2009 10:19 am
phyllis Doyle Pepe
Yikes! Rebecca! You think David is intelligent and enlightened? He just said that women are defined by men!  
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 04/16/2009 10:46 am
Rebecca G

There must be an incompatibility with my browser and wowOwow.  I opened up the link in a different browser and can now see the last two lines.  When I made my initial comment I never saw the defined by men line.

However, the context in which he wrote it seems to be that some women think they are defined by men and not that men define women.  Given all the rest of his post that makes the most sense.   Therefore, given what I could read during my initial post and my understanding of his last sentence that women should stop allowing themselves to be defined by a man I would still say he is intelligent and enlightened, yes.

Then again, I gave up on men a long time ago and only prefer women so I have to fight twice as hard to be treated equally but it’s worth it.

By Rebecca G on 04/16/2009 10:58 am
Rebecca G

I stand corrected with my earlier interpretation and also learned that this site is not really readable on Linux.  David wrote,

The problem you girls seem to be unable to deal with is that - in most instances - women are defined by men.

David, I take back what I said earlier.  You are not intelligent and enlightened.  Thank you for bringing it to my attention Phyllis.  OH!  Now I am so angry!!!

By Rebecca G on 04/16/2009 11:00 am
nanchan u
Don’t worry, RG.  We know it was a mistake….. poor David!  He’s gonna get ripped here, but I suspect that’s why he wrote what he did.  Hope he’s entertained!
By nanchan u on 04/16/2009 11:04 am
Rebecca G

I am so angry at what he wrote.  I’m more angry at what I wrote but on my browser in the OS the last line and a half is behind the name and time. It disappears behind it and I never got a chance to read it.

When I looked at it in Windows OS and saw the whole thing I got really upset.  

Also, I just got out of the Hospital and I blame the Codeine in my Rx for not making my brain work proper.

By Rebecca G on 04/16/2009 11:08 am
nanchan u
Hang in there sweetie! I couldn’t read the last line either (seems to be a new glitch at WOW) but saw it superimposed over his name…. I hope you feel better. :)
By nanchan u on 04/16/2009 11:15 am
Cheryl Mitchell
I understand about the Codeine RG.  It makes me crazy…take care of yourself girl.
By Cheryl Mitchell on 04/16/2009 2:30 pm
nanchan u

Oh, ok.  I’ve got the laundry in the dryer, my hair in curlers and a cake in the oven for my man, so I guess I have a few minutes to write my own girlish opinion here.

A woman is defined by a man? Have you recently been watching a marathon of "Leave it to Beaver"?  Woke up out of a 40 year coma?

A woman is defined by many things, but most of all she is defined by HERSELF and what she does.  She may be married, but she is not just that man’s property, she (hopefully) is that man’s partner.  A real man wants a partner, not a possesion.  That type of marriage is only for men who have no self esteem.

As for myself, and most of the women on this website (which you no doubt decided to target with your sexist drivel because it IS a female ran and populated website), we are defined by who we have decided to be.  We are wives, we are moms.  We are workers, we are friends.  We are charity organizers, and in some cases at some point, we are charity benefactors.

Your way of thinking is outdated and sexist.  Your statement that "I don’t think men think that they are superior to women" is in direct conflict with your last line "The problem you girls seem to be unable to deal with is that - in most instances - women are defined by men."

Thank you, Mr. Flowers.  I’ll give you a way to define ME, if you’d like and it has nothing to do with any man in my life (and they are there: father, brothers, my boyfriend, my friends who are guys).  Here you go: I am a woman who is strong and self confident.  Is that a result of all the men in my life?  I’d say it had a whole lot more to do with the strong women in my life, some of whom are on this site.

Now, back to my laundry (while I also organize a multi million dollar project as well as my next charity benefit).  Have a nice day.

By nanchan u on 04/16/2009 10:55 am
Lady Gator

Oh my David — to come on a women’s website and state "in most instances women are defined by men" — you must have 4 in those "little fellows" in your shorts!

Are you perhaps like another elderly gent (Dr. Mark) who used to delight in putting down women.  Guess what?  We’ve come a long way baby — the only difference between a man and a woman today is……..

A man can stand up and pee out the window of a speeding vehicle!

By Lady Gator on 04/16/2009 12:02 pm
Sandbee (FB) 54
And if we are lucky he might be a little shorter in some areas when he pulls it back.
By Sandbee (FB) 54 on 04/16/2009 12:51 pm