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Question of the Day | 09/16/2009 5:00 am

Have you ever gotten sick and then experienced health care in another country?

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Joan Juliet Buck

Joan Juliet Buck | 09/16/2009 12:00 am

Joan Juliet Buck on Italy's Health Care

Sure. It works. Except in Italy where they use words like cistifellea and throw nuns at you.

Joan Ganz Cooney

Joan Ganz Cooney | 09/16/2009 12:00 am

Joan Ganz Cooney: Shingles in Florence

I got sick a number of years ago in Florence and the hotel sent a doctor. Since I had had previous experience in other countries, I told my husband that he would immediately want to give me an injection (always unnamed in non-English speaking countries) and that I was going to refuse, which I did. He gave me something to stop my violently revolting stomach but he had no way of telling what was causing the nausea. Fortunately, we headed for Milan the next day and then came home — where I was diagnosed with a bad case of shingles and stayed in bed for a couple of weeks. I don’t think the doctor could have done any better because the rash didn’t start until a few days later.
Julia Reed

Julia Reed | 09/16/2009 12:00 am

Julia Reed Recommends This Hangover Cure – Sold in London

I have never been sick in another country, but I always stock up on the best over-the-counter headache medicines when I’m in Spain, and D.R. Harris’s "Pick-Me-Up" (excellent for hangovers) when I’m in London.

As for foreign doctors, the only experience I’ve ever had with one was on a ship. When we were in college, my first cousin Frances and I took my grandfather on a cruise through the Caribbean (for reasons I now cannot fathom — I imagine so that he would pay for it).

DeeDee (the name we called him) had been an officer in the Navy during World War II and I think the last cruise ship he’d been on was the Andria Doria. So he was used to being in white tie at the captain’s table and there we were on a giant Cunard that was like a slightly nicer floating Holiday Inn and sharing a table with some really, really nice (and very patient) people from Waco, TX.

DeeDee was a pretty good sport until we got off one morning in Venezuela, and an unsuspecting waiter told DeeDee he was not allowed to serve him a martini until noon. For a scary moment I thought he might literally break the poor man’s neck. He started off every day with martinis anyway, but on this particular occasion he was also self-medicating — he had bursitis in his shoulder and it was driving him crazy, but he refused to see the ship’s doctor. "He wouldn’t be a doctor on a ship if he weren’t a bum" — bum being the worst epithet in his lexicon, worse even than "s.o.b." The bum seemed pretty okay to us — he was tanned and English and so good-looking that Frances and I shamelessly flirted with him every night in the bar.

Anyway, the shoulder got so bad that we finally forced DeeDee into the doctor’s office. The guy gave him a shot of cortisone, the shoulder instantly felt better and the bum was elevated to: "You know, I think that ship’s doctor is one of the finest physicians I’ve ever encountered — and don’t you find him remarkably attractive?"

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F P
Yes  in France and the care was thorough, excellent and prompt.
By F P on 09/16/2009 6:10 am
deber B
Paid for by the French taxpayers!!  The same can be said for healthcare in America…thorough, excellent and prompt and cutting edge technology.
By deber B on 09/16/2009 6:53 am
F P

Not for a lot of people in this country Deber but then you know this.

By F P on 09/16/2009 7:21 am
S G
The difference deber is that we may have good health care as we are rated 37 amongst other countries. However in France they have evolved and realize everyone has a right to health care because it makes for a stronger country. The exclusion problem in our country is disgusting!
By S G on 09/16/2009 8:26 am
R.J.B. Reed
And if you don’t have good insurance, it will leave you in debt for the rest of your life.
By R.J.B. Reed on 09/16/2009 11:52 am
Laurel Sayler
Deber R U Kidding me? I once waited over 8 hrs in an emergency waiting just to find out I had sprained my thumb. I spent less than 10 minutes with the doctor and wound up with a $3000.00 bill. Before you accuse me of clogging up the hospital with something a family doc could have taken care of 1) is was after hours so no fam doc avaliable and 2) I couldn’t move my entire right hand which is my dominant hand and I thought something serious was wrong. I hope you were kidding bcuz American healthcare couldn’t be slower or worse. Ever hear of King Drew ppl have died on the waiting room floor there. 
By Laurel Sayler on 09/17/2009 5:43 pm
deber B
For the majority of Americans, our healthcare works just fine, Laurel. Sorry about your thumb. Perhaps the waiting room was filled with illegal immigrants, nonpaying emergency seekers, who were "ahead" of you. Perhaps it is where you live ….however what I do know is that NO healthcare plan is perfect. Let’s see what President Obama can do to make that an easier process for you next time…when we have 30 million new nonpaying healthcare seekers flooding the emergency rooms. Do you think you’ll wait a shorter period of time? And it will cost less? Breathtaking….that the democrats think that a public option will cure the problems!!! And, by the way, it will still cost you a fortune depending on which taxbracket you are in!!! Yes, bring on Obama’s "plan." Next time you’ll wait 16 hours and you think the cost will go down?  
By deber B on 09/17/2009 6:02 pm
Laurel Sayler
Whatever Deber U go right on believing ur Republican Pundits. We have some of the worst infant mortality of any developed nation but I guess in ur opinion that is God’s doing not the incompetent dr. who has been awake for 36 hrs.
By Laurel Sayler on 09/17/2009 6:20 pm
deber B
I only believe what is fact, Laurel.   And the fact is…30 million people, not enough doctors to handle them which will increase the number of doctors that have been awake for 36 hours.   Actually, it’s just simple math.
By deber B on 09/18/2009 4:41 am
Andreea Sanders
Laurel, you show some ignorance with your comment. Do you know why it appears that the US has a higher infant mortality rate than other, say, European countries? Because  infant mortality is reported differently around the world. The United States counts all births as live if they show any sign of life, regardless of prematurity or size. This includes what many other countries report as stillbirths (situations of miscarriages). In Austria and Germany, fetal weight must be at least 500 grams (1 pound) to count as a live birth; in other parts of Europe, such as Switzerland, the fetus must be at least 30 centimeters (12 inches) long. In Belgium and France, births at less than 26 weeks of pregnancy are registered as lifeless or ‘dead at arrival’. And some countries don’t reliably register babies who die within the first 24 hours of birth. Thus, the United States is sure to report higher infant mortality rates. For this very reason, the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, which collects the European numbers, warns of head-to-head comparisons by country.
By Andreea Sanders on 10/14/2009 7:13 am
Laurel Sayler
Whatever Andreea- My comment is a month old I have moved on.
By Laurel Sayler on 10/14/2009 2:04 pm
Andreea Sanders

Another challenge to comparability is the practice of counting frail or premature infants who die before the normal due date as miscarriages  (spontaneous abortion) or those who die  during or immediately after childbirth as stillborn. Therefore, the quality of a country’s documentation of perinatal mortality can matter greatly to the accuracy of its infant mortality statistics. 

By Andreea Sanders on 10/14/2009 7:20 am
Jeannot Kensinger

Yes, in Spain and in Belgium.Both times with hotel doctors who came (one on New year’s eve) within minutes after the call. Last one was in Belgium, grandson became very ill with some sort of flu bug. Dr.came refused to give him antibiotics and said that he would come back in the morning, he did and Peter got better. The Dr. explained that we Americans run for antibiotics at the first sneeze. When you will actually need it ,it  will not work anymore.

He also told me that Namenda (Alzheimer drug) is stopped at a certain stage, reason being that after awhile the medicine stops helping and a study in Germany showed an increase of violence. 

By the way, the dr,visit on New Year’s eve , (about 4 years ago ) cost us 45.00

By Jeannot Kensinger on 09/16/2009 7:10 am
Barbara
Yes while travelling with a colleague who had a very serious illness in the middle of the night in England.  She was able to call me to her room.  I called the hotel, they called for help.  Four very nice medics showed up within minutes, figured out her problem (unknown to me, she was diabetic and was going into insulin shock), got her insulin levels straightened out, ordered her a sandwich from room service, stayed while she ate it.  Made sure she had a nice cup of tea to go with it and that I was not too worried about her.  All in all, they were there over two hours.  At the end she asked how she paid for all of this.  The head medic responded, "No worries, dear.  This is how we do things here.  It’s on us."  They even talked to the hotel and told them not to charge her for the sandwich because it was part of her medical treatment.  Left her with detailed instructions of what to do if she still had problems and went on their way.
By Barbara on 09/16/2009 7:14 am
R.J.B. Reed
I had a friend who spent a semester abroad in England.  Due to a genetic disorder she has, she ended up spending about 3 weeks in a hospital in the middle of her term.  Her cost?  Nothing.  The amount of paperwork she had to fill out?  Nothing.  Due to her disorder, she has contemplated moving to the UK when she finishes her phD because the medical care she received was so much better.
By R.J.B. Reed on 09/16/2009 11:55 am