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Politics | 04/22/2009 12:05 pm

Hillary Clinton: Cheney Not a 'Particularly Reliable Source' on Torture

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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton lashed out at former Vice President Dick Cheney today when she said the former veep isn’t a "particularly reliable source" when it comes to torture and the CIA’s harsh interrogation methods.

Cheney has been making the media rounds to criticize the Obama administration’s release of Bush-era memos outlining torturous interrogation tactics. Speaking to Congressional figures today, Secretary Clinton scoffed at the idea that Cheney knows what’s best in this situation and would prefer to keep the matter apolitical. That, she insisted, is what’s best for the country, reports Reuters. "I believe we ought to get to the bottom of this entire matter. I think it is in the best interest of our country and that is what the president believes."

This is the first time Clinton has addressed lawmakers on Capitol Hill since becoming the nation’s top diplomat, and revealed a bit more of her thinking on one of the thorniest topics: Iran. The Obama administration has been criticized for extending its hand to the Republic, but Clinton insisted today that taking a level-headed approach could help with sanctions in the long run, according to the BBC.

If Iran ends up spoiling talks, then the nation will "gain credibility and influence with a number of nations who would have to participate in order to make the sanctions regime as tight and crippling as we would want it to be."

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S G

I say if he is found to have known about these things he should be held accountable under the law. Which says torture is illegal.

By S G on 04/22/2009 12:15 pm
Kelly In Texas

Hilliary may not find Cheney credible…what about 5 former CIA directors? 4 of which were both Dem and Rep. and the final 5th one is Obama’s own, Pannetta.

All of them said that the pictures, that Obama has stopped the legal process blocking their release, will severely damage and create a backlash against our forces in the Middle East. Not what we need now. Especially now.

By Kelly In Texas on 04/24/2009 12:55 pm
f p
Truer words are seldom spoken—he was an advocate for torture—his word is meaningless.
By f p on 04/22/2009 12:17 pm
f p

Here’s a petition to the AG of the US requesting that torture and the people who sanctioned it be investigated and prosecuted if necessary:

http://pol.moveon.org/torture/?rc=homepage 

By f p on 04/22/2009 3:59 pm
DeBúrca obj
Thanks f p… went there and signed the petition and I will send that to everyone on my e-mail list.
By DeBúrca obj on 04/22/2009 4:10 pm
Maggie W

Cheney needs to get over it.  He’s not the President anymore.  If there is nothing damaging in those memos, why not release them?

  Cheney should be nervous.  President Obama announced Tuesday that the attorney general would determine whether " those who formulated decisions behind interrogation methods should be prosecuted."

 As for torture, the British claimed that " tough" interrogation tactics used on IRA suspects thrwarted dozens of terrorist attacks.  Evidence later proved that same intelligence was more often useless.

By Maggie W on 04/22/2009 12:32 pm
Belinda Joy
Amen Hillary!
By Belinda Joy on 04/22/2009 12:38 pm
Marjorie C.
I voted for Hillary, but I still don’t think she’s the last word in honesty.  She has back-pedaled much from her stance on Iran as a candidate to her approach as SOS.  What has changed?  Surely, not Iran.    
By Marjorie C. on 04/22/2009 12:56 pm
Mary Quite-Contrary
I too voted for Hillary, and to say I am disappointed in her is mild.
By Mary Quite-Contrary on 04/22/2009 1:28 pm
Rudi G.
Color me shocked. I voted for her too — in part because I knew she’d be tougher fighting the inevitable right-wing extremist nonsense that is so damaging to the country. She went toe to toe with Gingrich, D’Amato, that buffoon Ken Starr and the other thugs. She’s still standing and they’re working at "think tanks" or whatever.
By Rudi G. on 04/22/2009 1:38 pm
Kelly In Texas
Obama better watch his back…Hill knows how to get what she wants. It won’t be pretty when she makes her move. She is quiet now…but remember…"there is power in absence."
By Kelly In Texas on 04/24/2009 1:10 pm
DeBúrca obj
She may not be the "last word in honesty" but Cheney IS the first word in dishonesty!
By DeBúrca obj on 04/22/2009 4:11 pm
Patience Hackler
I have to agree, not just with Cheney or Hillary, but pretty much with anyone in polics.  In general, policiticans are rarely ones for "reliable" information on decision making.  Politicans always have an agenda, and I keep that in mind.
By Patience Hackler on 04/23/2009 2:19 pm
S.J. Morgan
How Obama’s Decision Hurt the CIABy David Ignatius

WASHINGTON — At the Central Intelligence Agency, it’s known as "slow rolling." That’s what agency officers sometimes do on politically sensitive assignments. They go through the motions; they pass cables back and forth; they take other jobs out of the danger zone; they cover their backsides.

Sad to say, it’s slow roll time at Langley after the release of interrogation memos that, in the words of one veteran officer, "hit the agency like a car bomb in the driveway." President Obama promised CIA officers that they won’t be prosecuted for carrying out lawful orders, but the people on the firing line don’t believe him. They think the memos have opened a new season of investigation and retribution.

The lesson for younger officers is obvious: Keep your head down. Duck the assignments that carry political risk. Stay away from a counterterrorism program that has become a career hazard.

Obama tried personally to reassure the CIA work force during a visit to Langley Monday. He said all the right things about the agency’s clandestine role. But it had the look of a campaign event, with employees hooting and hollering and the president reading from his teleprompter with a backdrop of stars that commemorate the CIA’s fallen warriors.

But by Tuesday, Obama was deferring to the attorney general whether to prosecute "those who formulated those legal decisions," whatever that means.

Obama seems to think he can have it both ways — authorizing an unprecedented disclosure of CIA operational methods and at the same time galvanizing a clandestine service whose best days, he told them Monday, are "yet to come." Life doesn’t work that way — even for charismatic politicians. Disclosure of the torture memos may have been necessary, as part of an overdue campaign to change America’s image in the world. But nobody should pretend that the disclosures weren’t costly to CIA morale and effectiveness.

Put yourself in the shoes of the people who were asked to interrogate al- Qaeda prisoners back in 2002. One former officer told me he declined the job, not because he thought the program was wrong, but because he knew it would blow up. "We all knew the political wind would change eventually," he recalled. Other officers who didn’t make that cynical but correct calculation are now "broken and bewildered," says the former operative.

For a taste of what’s ahead, recall the chilling effects of past CIA scandals. Back in 1995, then-Director John Deutch ordered a "scrub" of the agency’s assets after revelations of past links to Guatemalan death squads. Officers were told they shouldn’t jettison sources who had provided truly valuable intelligence. But the practical message, recalls one former division chief, was: "Don’t deal with assets who could pose political risks."

One veteran counterterrorism operative says that agents in the field are already getting more careful about using the legal findings that authorize covert action. An example is the so-called "risk of capture" interview that takes place in the first hour after a terrorism suspect is grabbed. This used to be the key window of opportunity, in which the subject was questioned aggressively and his cell phone contacts and "pocket litter" were exploited quickly.

Now, field officers are more careful. They want guidance from headquarters. They need legal advice. I’m told that in the case of an al-Qaeda suspect seized in Iraq several weeks ago, the CIA didn’t even try to interrogate him. They handed him over to the U.S. military.

Agency officials also worry about the effect on foreign intelligence services that share secrets with the U.S. in a process politely known as "liaison." A former official who remains in close touch with key Arab allies such as Egypt and Jordan warns: "There is a growing concern that the risk is too high to do the things with America they’ve done in the past."

If Obama means what he says about protecting the CIA work force and its operational edge, he must give up the idea that he can please everyone on this issue. He should recommend limits on any congressional inquiry and resist demands for a special prosecutor. Instead, he should push the White House’s preferred alternative — a commission that can review secret evidence behind closed doors, then report to the nation.

America will be better off, in the long run, for Obama’s decision to expose the past practice of torture and ban its future use. But meanwhile, the country is fighting a war, and it needs to take care that the sunlight of exposure doesn’t blind its shadow warriors.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/04/22/slow_roll_time_at_langley_96098.html

By S.J. Morgan on 04/22/2009 12:57 pm
Mary Quite-Contrary
It is stomach wrenching to know that American operatives are being betrayed to keep campaign promises. Men and women have put their lives on the lines, and now a game of “gotcha” brinksmanship is being played with their, and our security. Obama and Hillary Clinton should both be ashamed. When operatives back away from the needed operations, ask yourself what happens? Bad people continue their deadly plans. No good can come of this. I am beginning to think Cheney will be seen in historical hindsight as the one trying protect the country; and not play politics with American lives.
By Mary Quite-Contrary on 04/22/2009 1:26 pm