Joan Ganz Cooney | 11/03/2009 1:00 pm
Joan Ganz Cooney 'Appalled' at Hillary Clinton's Head Scarf
I have to admit that I was appalled to see Hillary Clinton in a head scarf when she was in Ramallah recently on an official visit. First, I think a U.S. Government official when on government business is genderless, that it is not a woman official or a man official; just an official. Second, the head scarf is a symbol of the subjugation of women and a religious belief, at that. Would she wear a crucifix if she met with the pope? I’m sure she was told she should show respect for the culture but I have to ask why, when the culture supports beliefs that we and certainly Hillary Clinton are repelled by.
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R.J. people in this country live to see what so in so is wearing, mostly because we can. Most of us will never be able to dress like the movie stars or politicians and their spouses, so we dream, and when we see someone in the public eye wearing such horrible cloths and were given a chance to say something we do.
I was a professional woman my entire adult working life, and I dressed as well as my income and family obligations afforded. I achieved equality in my field, both in rank and pay, and now I can sit back and laugh at the pretty lady in the ugly cloths.
Would you wear a gunny sack and expect to be treated with respect? Go on national TV w/ one on and see the reaction you get. Many of these women look to the public to let them know how we perceive them and their cloths.
Jackie O. was a perfect example of exactly what I’m saying, she set the trend for all the following women in the role of First Lady and a nation changed the way they dressed to mirror her.
As a physicist, I expect to be treated with respect (or lack thereof) based on my intellectual merits, not on whether I can follow some arbitrary social conventions when it comes to clothing. Whether I am correct or not is completely independent of what I’m wearing. Personally, I’ve dreamed that I could dress like a movie star or a politician’s wife. Were I to be a multimillionaire, my clothing choices would remain unchanged because it is simply not important. One the most respected theorists in my field often gives her lectures wearing a t-shirt and gym shorts. She’s brilliant and amazing. Anything else isn’t relevant.
The issue is that you don’t see men dissing other men for their clothing choices. They critique each other based on their abilities. If we want to compete, we need to do so in a constructive manner and not criticize women for choices that show no reflection on the job they do. I can’t imagine someone commenting on what type of clothing Obama, Bush or any other male politician has worn. And yet, instead of discussing Hillary’s actions (good or otherwise), we discuss her clothes. No wonder sexism still exists. Women continue to show that we’re bobbled headed ninnies. Let’s stop. It’d be nice if my daughters were judged by the same criteria as my sons.
R.J.B., men mostly certainly do consider clothing choices in the matters of business. Definetly they do.
Clothing choices say a lot about mood, and outlook, it can be very telling about one’s leanings in life and such. Although no one should put clothing choices above other attributes or one’s abilties, attention to appearance should be taken into consideration, and is. From tribes deep in the rain forest, to the world media, appearance matters.
Most of the time, I find that those that are consumed with their appearance are as insecure as the one that pretend not to be. One hopes to compete, the others fears it.
R.J., I agree to an extent. But when you go to an office and the first person you see is a nicely dressed male or female, the person entering gets it’s first impression of the business/agency from the first encounter they make.
When I was working my cloths were an issue, we were given a dress code and we did not dare try anything new. Especially when we were meeting with those in authority, we needed to make a good impression. Men wear suits mostly, especially those in the gov’t, or gov’t contractors, doctors offices, and if your lucky enough to have a job that has a lack dress code be grateful. Think about the kids and older Americans who work at McDonalds, Walmart, Kmart, they all have strick dress codes, and some uniforms. Then you have doctors and nurses who wear scrubs, or uniforms and they have to wear them, but when their out in the public eye most dress to the nines to show pride in themselves.
Being educated and holding a good job is the dream of all people I’ve known through out my life and if a uniform isn’t required then they dress nice so people can see the pride they have for themselves and the jobs they perform.
I wore a Navy Uniform for years and when I went to work at the for the government I dressed to show my pride in myself and my accomplishments. When I’d get off work I had to go home and change for my second job at Sears and put on an entirely different outfit, when working for the Military non-active duty you are expected to wear clothes that are up to the standards of the active duty military, and then working at Sears I’d be over dressed and have to go and dress down for my shift.
I know first hand from being a government employee working with people in power and as a Mom of two kids dressing for whatever situation I’d find myself in. Clothes do say an awful lot about the person, male or female. They show our bosses, subordinates, children, church family how we view ourselves.
Deniseann
Hey, my son is officially out of the army this Friday —- wooo HOooo!
Anyway, Jackie O did have glamour, but there were many before her that also had it, but hers was "younger" and more trend setting - more European in some ways. She was great. After her there were many that just didn’t have the figure for it and sometimes their taste seemed ordinary like Roslind Carter, Barbara Bush etc. There was only one Jackie O - Nancy Reagan could afford great designers, but didn’t have as much panache, she was older too. I enjoy Michelle Obama’s choices and I think she is setting a new trend in the WH.
Frannie, I’ve been praying for your son’s safe passage home, I’m extremely happy for both you and him. As we have spoke before you know I was in the Navy, He’ll have some adjustments to make when he gets home. Some advice if I may, I don’t know If he lives with you or if he’s married, you never said, but here goes:
1. Make him his favorite foods
2. Listen if he needs to talk, and please for your sake, don’t ask questions, let him come to you, many troops who are coming home don’t have a supportive family that will allow them to talk and just be there to listen.
3. Give him all the time he needs to get back into the swing of things, if he’s lucky he will be able to get right back into living outside the military.
4. Just show him how much you love him, and leave the healing up to him and who ever he calls his "Higher Power", only give advice when asked.
War takes a lot out of our troops, some bounce right back, others take time. Have the local VA hospital number handy just in case it is needed. For both physical and mental health.
I’m really very happy for you and I’ll be praying for your son.
As for Ms. Clinton I prefer to see a woman in service to her country wear a dress, skirt once in a while, it shows she’s famine, Even in the Military women have to wear skirts, especially those working in an embassy, on recruiting duty, in parades, it’s required. Remember back to the Clinton era, many thought she was gay, while being gay doesn’t bother me one way or the other, some in the media thought she looked butch.
Deniseann
Thanks for the loving advice. That is pretty much how we handle it. He has been in the army for almost 8 years and and had 3 overseas deployments as well as Katrina. He had some hard spells, but we work through it. We are just so grateful that he got out of Stop Loss - I really don’t think he could have taken another deployment without it creating a great disappointment about life for him. I just take it one step at a time.
Yes, I love a woman in a well tailored dress or jacket and skirt, but some wear it better than others. I think it must have something to do with the way she sees herself in dresses. I get the feeling she thinks she looks better in pants. I don’t know.
Frannie I let the my pray team know your son is coming home and they just like me are so happy for your entire family.
I joined the Navy at the end of Vietnam, I never got to go overseas and regret the fact I didn’t. Not to a war zone mind you but to a duty station in England, France, Italy, or Japan would have been great. My x-husband was overseas a total of 10 times in our 22 1/2 yr marriage, he missed all the good stuff with the kids, first step, first tooth, loss of first tooth, boy scouts, girl scouts. He was in Beirut when the barracks were blow up and I was fighting with the military to get him home because I had cancer and just delivered a 9 lb baby boy, I needed him with me because I had no one to help with an infant and toddler, but he refused to come home because if he’d come home early when I was on my way back to health he’d have to go back. It was pure selfishness on his part. But with my faith and finally help from his family we made it through. When he finally came home our son was 6 mo’s old but as big as a one yr. old.
When I got out of the Navy I remained on active duty reserve, so I got called back every few yrs to do what I do and it all counted towards my pension. But when I wasn’t active duty it didn’t matter because I worked for the military in a civilian job. The only real benefit was I got to dress like a woman and not like one of the guys on a ship. We only wore our dress uniforms when we were in parades or on active reserve duty.
Maybe that is why I think a woman should dress like a woman (i.e. dresses, skirts), and show her femine side. Pant suits (some not all) are not my idea of how a woman should dress. Another reason is because I grew up with "leave it to beaver" and Mrs. Cleaver, the beach party movies and my ultimate fav of that time period Doris Day. They always looked so nice.
I guess I should have been born 10 yrs earlier, my views would have fit the time. lol :)
Deniseann
You have had an interesting career and what a life.
I like all kinds of clothes and I do like when men and women dress up. It is fun and I think they look great. When I worked in companies and not for our business I wore both dresses and pants and was happy for it. But pants never took over and vice versa. Now I am almost always in pants - I work at home and exercise or yoga pants are the most comfortable and I don’t care if they get dirty if I have to go out and climb the hill to rescue a lizard from the dog. — LOL
Frannie I let the my pray team know your son is coming home and they just like me are so happy for your entire family.
I joined the Navy at the end of Vietnam, I never got to go overseas and regret the fact I didn’t. Not to a war zone mind you but to a duty station in England, France, Italy, or Japan would have been great. My x-husband was overseas a total of 10 times in our 22 1/2 yr marriage, he missed all the good stuff with the kids, first step, first tooth, loss of first tooth, boy scouts, girl scouts. He was in Beirut when the barracks were blow up and I was fighting with the military to get him home because I had cancer and just delivered a 9 lb baby boy, I needed him with me because I had no one to help with an infant and toddler, but he refused to come home because if he’d come home early when I was on my way back to health he’d have to go back. It was pure selfishness on his part. But with my faith and finally help from his family we made it through. When he finally came home our son was 6 mo’s old but as big as a one yr. old.
When I got out of the Navy I remained on active duty reserve, so I got called back every few yrs to do what I do and it all counted towards my pension. But when I wasn’t active duty it didn’t matter because I worked for the military in a civilian job. The only real benefit was I got to dress like a woman and not like one of the guys on a ship. We only wore our dress uniforms when we were in parades or on active reserve duty.
Maybe that is why I think a woman should dress like a woman (i.e. dresses, skirts), and show her femine side. Pant suits (some not all) are not my idea of how a woman should dress. Another reason is because I grew up with "leave it to beaver" and Mrs. Cleaver, the beach party movies and my ultimate fav of that time period Doris Day. They always looked so nice.
I guess I should have been born 10 yrs earlier, my views would have fit the time. lol :)