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Joan Ganz Cooney | 11/03/2009 1:00 pm

Joan Ganz Cooney 'Appalled' at Hillary Clinton's Head Scarf

Joan Ganz Cooney

I have to admit that I was appalled to see Hillary Clinton in a head scarf when she was in Ramallah recently on an official visit. First, I think a U.S. Government official when on government business is genderless, that it is not a woman official or a man official; just an official. Second, the head scarf is a symbol of the subjugation of women and a religious belief, at that. Would she wear a crucifix if she met with the pope? I’m sure she was told she should show respect for the culture but I have to ask why, when the culture supports beliefs that we and certainly Hillary Clinton are repelled by. 

Click here to see Hillary Clinton’s picture on the Daily Beast.

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SURA B

Sorry, it has nothing to do with the war or our delicate relationship with Muslims. It is part of being a diplomat in a foreign country and representing one’s country. Joan is not correct, she is misguided. Wherever diplomats go, the observe the customs of the culture they visit. 

 Wearing a head  scarf does not show subservience; it shows respect, and somehow demonstrates that world contains many cultures and practices, not only American. Otherwise, we’d be the colonial power we are accused of being, eh!

 

 

By SURA B on 11/03/2009 10:58 pm
Bonnie O

Sura B -  I did not say Mrs. Clinton was wrong to wear a scarf.  However, I must say that all diplomacy in the Muslim world concerns our American armed forces … remember the USS Cole, our embassies in Africa, etc.    Furthermore, the fact that Mrs. Clinton wore the scarf will do absolutely nothing to stop those who deride America by calling us a colonial power.

The appalling comment is not that our female diplomats should show disrespect to foreign dignitaries, in their country, but the fact that women are treated horrendously in those very same countries.  We cannot fight that battle .. but the fact that the scarf is worn as a sign of subservience, and sometimes respect, must be worn by only women to avoid showing disrespect to male diplomats is appalling.  If you choose to only see the scarf as a sign of respect, than that is your prerogative.  Some of us do not.

By Bonnie O on 11/03/2009 11:35 pm
True Grit

I agree Bonnie.

This is not an point of fashion, or who else wore what, at some other time. It is about not walking the walk. America needs to talk the talk and then walk the walk.

Our women are equal and respect goes both ways here. I suggest then, as a diplomatic custom, that all foreign men shave their facial hair as a sign of respect to our female dignitaries. You think that would ever happen? No.

Once again, America apologizes for our way of life and our beliefs in human equality. If we do not have the guts to stand for what we believe in, then don’t send in a woman. Elect a man and get on with it.

By True Grit on 11/04/2009 10:33 am
Rachel F
Not so, Sura. Diplomats often do not emulate the culture they enter. That is why you will often see diplomats wearing dress traditional to their homeland in lands where it is not traditional. They are envoys of their own particular country, and so represent those customs. Western cultures, where it is not custom for a female public figure to have to cover her head, do not demand that ladies from such cultures remove their head covers. The same respect should be shown for diplomats who enter countries where it is custom. Furthermore, particularly in areas where such coverings are used to subjugate women, it is a bad practice to embrace the tradition imho. Now, I do not fault Mrs. Clinton on this necessarily. She was simply doing as others before her have done…and it most likely would have caused a huge ‘scandal’ had she not — no matter how absurd the reasons. I do believe, however, saying that American diplomats doing what diplomats all over the world do would make us a "colonial power" is silly in the extreme.
By Rachel F on 11/04/2009 2:14 pm
SURA B

I was not writing about attire, but the covering of one’s head; I am aware of how diplomats who visit other countries dress, and often they remain in the clothing they wear in their own countries. For example Madame Pandit, if you remember her, always wore a sari here, though she represented her country. Actually, I am more than aware, but I did not want to reveal much about my family or experience. My husband was a diplomat at a South Asian embassy in Washington, and then transferred to NY to the consulate for many years, and we were part of the international community, and lived in the community originally built for consular and UN personnel when the UN was at Lake Success.

When serving the government while abroad one is instructed and alerted to the requirements in behavior, attire, and protocol of the host country; all nations do this. However, the subject at hand is Hilary Clinton’s wearing a head scarf, which is appropriate because it demonstrated her knowledge about the country she visited. It was not a sign of women’s subservience; subservience is universal, and there are many different clues depending on the culture. I did not use the word "emulate," because that is not the intention; it is respectful.

I used the word "colonial" because it is used throughout the world to refer to a powerful nation imposing rule, government, codes of behavior on another, and in many places, the U.S. is considered a colonial power; when Americans appear in outlandish clothing in a conservative culture, what results? How are we perceived? Diplomats, everywhere, are aware that they represent their own nation and are careful about how they are perceived, and it is not a sign of weakness or emulation. It demonstrates a recognition that cultures vary and have different codes of behavior, and we are not there to impose our own. For example, if we are asked to remove our shoes at the door, we do it; if we are asked to cover our arms and not expose our thighs, we do it.If Hilary Clinton visits the Pope, she will cover her shoulders and hair as a mark of respect; she does not have to wear a crucifix, as one writer on this website mentioned.

However, Americans and others who tour other countries often wear inappropriate clothng; they may do as they wish, though it is recommended they  learn about  the countries they visit before assuming that what is worn here, shorts and sleeveless tops, is suitable elsewhere. It is a sign of courtesy.

 Here, the distinctions are about western and non-western cultures, but the statements I’ve read demonstrate little knowledge about how others live; writers seem to lump "others" together, instead of acknowledging that within most religions there are great differences because of culture. Also, here in the US, there are many cultures, and we seem to speak only of one culture; for example, I was taught to cover my head during religious occasions, but nowadays, it is not required. In some places in the US, men and women cover their heads, but on this website that plurality is never mentioned; I’m American born, and I have obsvered the many differences. So, who speaks for whom?

 Again, international protocol is maintained so that government representatives can communicae with each other in a respectful manner, and this time Hilary Clinton alerted the international community that she knows how to do it. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

By SURA B on 11/04/2009 6:04 pm
True Grit

Nah SURA…Clinton is not a tourist. Clinton is not a mere diplomat. Clinton is our Secretary of State. She represents American women and men. She was not there for a religious event. She was there doing the work of our Nation.

Clinton did not have to alert anyone that she is aware of the customs there. Any idiot can google it.

 She has spent a large part of her political life separating herself from " some little woman standing by her man baking cookies". Big feminist talk. The head covering is a matter of subserviance to many women around the world.

By True Grit on 11/04/2009 9:31 pm
Anais P
Hillary did not wear a burqa, she wore a scarf that in fact revealed some of her hair. So did Audrey Hepburn, who always looked smashingly chic in one. Did Audrey ever consider herself subjugated? I think not. Hillary was merely showing respect for another country’s traditions and I don’t think she came off subjugated at all. Respect is part of diplomacy, too. Now, if she had worn a burqa, I would have been appalled. But that’s not the case here.
By Anais P on 11/03/2009 5:27 pm
Maggie W

So, she was wearing a scarf.  Big whoop! It’s not like she was decked out in an outfit from Dancing With the Stars.  I see women in my city in scarves on a regular basis.  No one seems bothers.   They aren’t trying to prove a point or fly in the face of another culture.

I am guessing Madame Secretary was advised about respect through dress before her trip.  This is more ado about nothing.

By Maggie W on 11/03/2009 5:51 pm
Dorothy Nichols
In her first major visit to a Muslim gathering, Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice wore a short (several inches above the knee) skirt, then spent the entire time fidgeting in her seat trying to pull it down to her knees. Not only was it bad form, it made her seem ridiculous when she should have been sitting among peers. A headscarf doesn’t subjugate women - governments that force them to dress a certain way do. Never in human history was a woman made more free because someone told her to wear a little bit less clothing. That Clinton wore one was intended, as always in these situations, to minimize the issue so we could get on with more important things.
By Dorothy Nichols on 11/03/2009 7:21 pm
Signing On
I well remember Rice on that visit, too, Dorothy. I was embarassed for America, but also for the culture in which she foisted her body. The basis of good manners to avoid insulting others, or making anyone uncomfortable. Hemlines appear to have been tossed out the window by American women who are seen and want to be more of a scene.
By Signing On on 11/03/2009 10:25 pm
Rachel F

"A headscarf doesn’t subjugate women - governments that force them to dress a certain way do."

Just because something isn’t legislated does not mean that culture, family, and/or ideology do not serve to subjugate someone. In many places, it is not illegal to go outside without a scarf…but if you end up raped, dead, or "honor killed", the police look the other way, and no one cares because you violated the oppressive norms of culture and twisted religious ideology (I say twisted because nowhere in the Qu’ran does it dictate that Muslim women must wear scarves…and yet many Islamic extremists view this as a religious duty, which failure to perform can result in death…it’s a warped twist on Islam, but, sadly, one that is prevalent — just as many warped, repressive ideas of dress and behavior were introduced into western Christian life, but had no basis in Biblical tradition). It’s an abuse of the religion, and an abuse of women. But it runs much deeper than the government.

By Rachel F on 11/04/2009 2:21 pm
Dorothy Nichols

The Qu’ran says that women should be modest. Various interpretations of this run from a full-on burqa, veil and all, to simply dressing in a way that does not directly call attention to a woman’s body. What a government, society, or outlaw does to subjugate women doesn’t make the headscarf - or the burqa for that matter - oppressive. Again, Secretary Clinton was simply observing local custom as a matter of diplomacy. I know many women who choose to wear the hijab, and they are anything but oppressed.

By Dorothy Nichols on 11/04/2009 8:28 pm
mitzi morris

Appalled?  Really?  I mean really? Albright,Amnapour, and many women have worn headscarves as a gesture of respect to the customs of a country.  Since she is Sec’y of State, diplomacy and respect are primary, & this is not unusual.

Joan Cooney would have made a dreadful Sec’y of State, so thank God she isn’t.  

 In order to even begin a meaningful discussion in any country it’s mandatory to respect customs both cultural,political, and religious.

 

 

By mitzi morris on 11/03/2009 7:26 pm
SURA B
Amen.
By SURA B on 11/03/2009 11:00 pm
Diana cole
She definitely did not wear it as a fashion statement.
By Diana cole on 11/03/2009 7:40 pm