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Lesley Stahl | 09/21/2009 7:00 am

Lesley Stahl: 'I Was Left With the Impression Ted Jr. Would Run for Public Office Someday' (Video)

CBS

By now you’ve probably seen Ted Jr., Sen. Kennedy’s son, a lot. He’s been on TV talking about his dad’s memoir. But when I met him for a "60 Minutes" interview a week or so ago, all I knew about him was that he’d lost his leg to bone cancer when he was 12 and that he’d given one hell of a powerful speech at his father’s funeral. So when I went to Hyannis Port to meet him for the first time, I didn’t know what to expect.


There are no fences.

In the past, when I thought of the Kennedy compound at Hyannis Port, I always imagined a fortress, castle walls, a real Cape Cod Camelot, maybe even a moat. And yet here sat those famous Kennedy houses looking exposed and vulnerable. They even had next-door neighbors. I liked this famous family all the more for not living behind barbed wire.

As Robert Frost – who spoke at John Kennedy’s inaugural – wrote in one of his most famous poems:

Before I built a wall I’d ask to know
What I was walling in or walling out,
And to whom I was like to give offence.
Something there is that doesn’t love a wall,
That wants it down.

The walls of prejudice are what brought the Kennedys to Hyannis Port in the first place: Way back at the beginning, it had the only nice golf course that allowed Catholics to play.


The Kennedy houses are huddled together like players huddling up in long-ago touch football games on the lawn. Teddy Kennedy’s house, which is on the water, almost rubs shoulders with JFK’s house, which isn’t. None of them are estate-sized mansions, just comfortably large.

When Ted Jr. learned his father had brain cancer, he bought JFK’s house so he could live next door to his father during the last months of his life. Ted Jr. tells us this house is where Jack learned that he had been elected president. Bobby Kennedy’s house was next door.

As I sat opposite this young man (well, not that young: he’s 47), he would look nothing like a Kennedy one minute, and then he would! I’d be wondering: Who does he look like, sound like? And then, suddenly, he’d be the image of his father, with a voice right out of old Irish Boston.

In one of those almost eerie moments — there in the Kennedy compound — I heard myself ask the inevitable question: "What about you?"

"What about me?" he asked back.

"Politics? Family business? Ever?"

"You know, I’d be lying to you if I told you that I never thought about going into politics," he said. "I think everybody in my family at one point or another thinks about politics. And it’s something that I’ve thought about."

Clearly alluding to his own childhood, he said his daughter, 15, and son, 11, were too young for him to spend the time away from them that a life in politics would inevitably require. "I’m told there will be a day where they won’t want to hang out with me anymore. And maybe after then I’ll choose to do something."

Sitting there in what felt like an active compound – Ethel was next door playing in her yard with a slew of her grandchildren – I thought it was a place with more history to make. I was left with the impression Ted Jr. would run for public office someday.


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DeBúrca obj
Great piece Lesley! I am looking forward to reading Senator Kennedy’s book. After Ted Jr.’s phenomenal eulogy at his dad’s funeral I knew there would be lots of talk about a political future for him. Whatever he decides to do, he is such a talented and insightful man I’m sure he will make great contributions.
By DeBúrca obj on 09/21/2009 11:30 am
Maryanne Raphael

Enjoyed the piece very much.  I too am eager to read Senator Kennedy’s book.  I have always enjoyed reading about the Kennedys and Senator Kennedy always fought for the things I believe in.  Maryanne

By Maryanne Raphael on 09/24/2009 3:27 pm
Marjorie C.

Leslie:  …suddenly, he’d be the image of his father, with a voice right out of old Irish Boston.

I noticed the same thing as I watched the interview.  A grin or a toss of the head and it was Teddy, the father.

Young Teddy appears grounded and easy to listen to, but I don’t think he has "fire in the belly" like his father.  That notwithstanding, I think if he ran for Senator in Massachusetts within the next ten years or so, he’d have a good chance.  Of course, he’d be pushing a fellow Democrat aside.    

By Marjorie C. on 09/21/2009 11:48 am
Dianne Lopp
Rose Kennedy wrote a memoir entitled Times to Remember.  Do journalists and writers not employ editors and fact checkers anymore?
By Dianne Lopp on 09/21/2009 2:11 pm
phyllis Doyle Pepe

Leslie mentioned the prejudice that the Kennedy’s endured because they were Irish, in Boston, and not considered part of the Brahmin culture at the time. Here is an interesting quote by Jack Kennedy’s contemporary at Harvard, Donald Thurber:

Jack Kennedy was part of the Irish contingent, the Catholic contingent, and that set him apart somewhat. The class was, in those days, just dominated by a WASP atmosphere. And Kennedy didn’t fit into that mold at all. Do I think Jack ever suffered ethnic prejudice? Well, yes, I think so––because he was such an obvious Boston-Irish type. You could tell from the way he spoke––he had a Boston accent as opposed to a Groton accent. And there were those older, more puritanical Bostonians, many of whom wee in the class of 1940 at Harvard, who regarded the Kennedys as coarse, loud, nouveaux riches upstarts. For these people, the Kennedys were just irretrievably Boston Irish…the Kennedys were known particularly by the Bostonians as a family on the make. For many of the Brahmin families here, the Fitzgeralds [Rose’s family] were simply beyond the pale, and the Kennedys also.

Somehow this has a familiar ring to it. Today the tune has changed, but the melody lingers on.

P.S. enjoyed your interview, Leslie. Ted, Jr. is indeed, a fine young—to me he’s young—man. 

 

 

By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 09/21/2009 5:30 pm
C jay

and, phyllis, that is how they were viewed in the UK during the War - Joe was coarse, loud, et al … and took from the people who were starving during those times. I am not sure that "the tune has changed," but yes, the melody’s the same. Political power such that Joe demanded from his sons, with money, is not a good combination, no matter how loud the bellows from the H of C.

 

By C jay on 09/21/2009 11:04 pm
Baby  Snooks
The Kennedys had two strikes against them. They were Irish and Catholic. Just not accepted.  Then they were just Catholic. Just not accepted.  And all these years later we have six Roman Catholics on our Supreme Court.  All of whom, except one, seems to have belied the belief that a president, or a Supreme Court justice, would answer only to Rome.  There are a lot of changes that have come through the years because of the Kennedys. And there will probably be even more.  And in that sense, we should all be grateful for them - they have contributed far more than any other family in our history.
By Baby Snooks on 09/21/2009 6:45 pm
True Taylor
Great post Lesley, thank you for sharing your interview with Ted Jr. here on WOW.                                                                                                                                           
I also have to say how thrilled I am to see posts on this thread from Diana T, phyllis Doyle Pepe, and DeBurca obj. If Suzanne is here too, then my cup is full.                                                                                                      
I’ve been coming to this site since it started and for all these many months when I would see an interesting topic I would click the link thinking I can’t wait to see what you 4 ladies will have to say. Your posts are always thoughtful, well researched, provocative, entertaining, and inspiring. You were also the most consistent posters and to me, you are WOWOWOW.                                                                                                                                                                      And of course there are many more that I miss: Carol L., Lily of the Valley, Mugsy, Deni, Elizabeth Bennet, Beth (peace and grace), Josie, Blue Circle Girl, Dona, Countrywoman  (buc, buc, buc, Barack!), Sherrie and please forgive me if I’ve momentarily forgotten the names of all the other wonderful women who used to contribute such wonderful posts. I hope you too will return.                                                                                                                                                                                                                     We all know what this site has become and I won’t go into that now but Margo Howard, Liz Smith, and Lesley are posting great threads and maybe Whoopi, Jane and Lily will post again too (remember the sandbox?)                                                                                                                  
I can only hope.
By True Taylor on 09/22/2009 12:00 am
Dona Howlett

True Taylor,

I’m still here………haven’t been posting as much as I used to in the beginning of wowowow.

For one thing I got tired of the constant negative way of debating…….The Civility we used to have in the

beginning just flew out the Window.  I know a lot of the women who no longer post here, left for that reason.

My health has not been as good recently so I also don’t care to be involved in the vile wars……….

I will mention to some of the other ladies you asked about them.

I enjoyed Lesley’s article.  If one wants to make a balance sheet on the Kennedy’s I think over the years their

contributions to our Country out weigh the negative things that have happened.

I have a wonderful loyal family like the Kennedy’s and it’s wonderful to know you have someone

always there to cover your back.

Thanks for including me in the list of people you’ve missed.

I’m here……….

I know I will enjoy exchanging views and ideas in the future with you True……..

By Dona Howlett on 09/22/2009 1:27 am
EKA -

Dona, Sorry to read that your health has not been good, and it is true that when you don’t feel the best you want to surround yourself with good positive things. I hope your spirits will be lifted soon.

We are going to Dublin today and my husband has the Kennedy book to read on the plane. I’m sure he will love it. 

By EKA - on 09/22/2009 9:27 am
DeBúrca obj
Say ‘hi’ to Dublin from me, it’s my home away from home! Wish I could have known this earlier and found out what you were planning to do there, I may have been able to suggest something.
By DeBúrca obj on 09/22/2009 10:27 am
EKA -
We’re going to celebrate the 250 Anniversary of Guinness … lots of festivities planned, and a pint or two… or three … or four ….
By EKA - on 09/22/2009 12:00 pm
DeBúrca obj
Sláinte!
By DeBúrca obj on 09/22/2009 4:25 pm
True Taylor

Thankyou so much for the lovely response, Dona. Sorry to hear that your health has not been good of late.

I think everyone makes mistakes and we’re much more informed about the Kennedys’ mistakes as they are in the public eye. I also think when someone makes a horrific mistake it matters much what they do next. Spending the rest of your life contributing greatly to the welfare of others should count for something.

I admire Ted Jr for delaying the decision to possibly enter politics until his children are older so he won’t have to spend so much time away from them when they’re young. I think more people should do that, not just in politics but other busy careers. If your life is too busy to spend time with your children, what kind of message are you sending them?  But I guess that’s easy for me to say, I don’t have any children.

Looking forward to more conversation… 

By True Taylor on 09/23/2009 6:52 pm
Dona Howlett

True,

I agree with you about spending time with ones children.

I get irritated when I hear people say……"Oh they’re just kids they’ll get over it"

If that’s true then we wouldn’t have so many screwed up adults in the World. It’s nice to have conversations with people who are interesting and without all the anger and meanness.

I’ve decided to have my own little Boycott……..I’m going to pass by the angry posters.  I used to enjoy Wowowow so much

when it left me with a feeling of enrichment and knowledge.  I’ve been foolish lately and allowed myself to be

drawn into these ugly conversations.  I think life is hard enough without deliberately allowing so much negative energy

into my daily living….

Anyone who wants to join me…….I welcome.  Maybe we could re-create the Old Wowowow when civility reigned.

I enjoy a good adversary when done with respect and civility.  I hope I never get too old to want to learn from others.

By Dona Howlett on 09/23/2009 9:57 pm