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Q & A | 06/03/2009 11:00 pm

'From Struggle to Grace': Arianna Huffington Levels With Lesley Stahl

The co-founder and editor-in-chief of Huffington Post joins Lesley Stahl to talk about Elizabeth Edwards, Obama and the economy, her last incarnation and more.
Arianna Huffington

ARIANNA: A bit of a turning point for me was when I took Christina, my oldest daughter, around to colleges when she was a junior in high school. And our ground rule was no BlackBerries, and I would go into the hotel with her at night, she would go to sleep and I would start working. And I came back here absolutely exhausted. And I remember getting up from my desk the first morning and fainting from exhaustion, hitting my head on my desk, breaking my cheekbone and having five stitches on my eye. And it’s one of those amazing, teachable moments, because I just knew immediately that I had to change the way I was trying to do things. And that is part of what I mentioned earlier, you know, putting more priority on sleep, on making time to work out, meditate, all the things that we now, in the Living section, are calling "unplug and recharge." You know, how do we unplug and recharge ourselves so that we can keep going through the day and through our work in a way that’s —

LESLEY: — graceful.

ARIANNA: Yes, exactly. In a way that’s much more graceful.

LESLEY: Before I ask you a couple more questions about the Huffington Post, I want to ask one more personal question: What is the dumbest thing you’ve ever done?

ARIANNA: The dumbest thing I’ve ever done? Um, hmm, let me see … picking the dumbest thing I’ve ever done. I think the dumbest thing I’ve ever done has to do … that’s why there are so many examples – it has to do with overcommitting, has to do with not framing my life. I find that, you know, you look at a painting and it needs a frame, it needs poses, it needs gaps in between, it needs interruptions – and that’s what I haven’t been very good at. And that has led to getting to a date or a moment in a day when I’m committed to doing something, and I wish I wasn’t. And that’s what —

I love the current chapter. I love my day job. It’s endlessly evolving, endlessly surprising, and this is it.

LESLEY: We’ve all been there.

ARIANNA: We’ve all been there.

LESLEY: OK, here’s what I thought you were going to say.

ARIANNA: What?

LESLEY: Running for governor against Arnold Schwarzenegger.

ARIANNA: You know what? That was such an amazingly hard experience, but I learned so much.

LESLEY: So it wasn’t wasted?

ARIANNA: No. I learned so much. Part of what I learned about the power of the Internet, which got me to understand why I … I mean, that’s why I tell people that was one of my most visible failures. But at the same time, on the sort of foundation of that failure was built such a deep understanding of how communications were changing, that I don’t know if I would have known how important what was happening online was had it not been for that. I remember we launched a little animated sort of — I don’t know if you can call it cartoon . We called it "The Hybrid Versus the Hummer," because I was driving a hybrid and Arnold was driving a Hummer, and because his campaign was a juggernaut and mine was a little campaign. And it was just a little animated feature that somehow went crazy viral, it was all over the state, and I literally wake up one morning and there’s this, like, three-quarters of a page in the LA Times about this campaign, which had cost, I think, $10,000. So I just said, "Wow, that’s a new reality." And there are many, many examples like that, that helped me understand that there was a new digital reality that I, coming from a very different world, had no idea about its power.

192 Reader Comments (so far…) Sign In or Register to comment

James the Game
That’s what’s been so discouraging for me: the lack of decent pay in journalism. I mean, $8 or $10 an hour - some wages I’ve received in the 2000’s at different journalism jobs in business print, radio sports, and radio news. Now, I blog on sites like this for nothing (about the same amount, eh?)
By James the Game on 06/04/2009 12:19 am
Judy K.

As you well know, with all the free news on the net, people don’t want to have to pay for information.  So writers, like yourself, want to get the facts out there but are not getting paid.  Seems to me we are turning into a compartmentalized society with people who read and those who get bullet points from the news on TV and that is about it.  Good journalism is becoming a rarity and getting paid for it is getting to be harder and harder with all the newspapers shutting their doors. 

The sad thing is that the news on the net can be verified in a nanosecond these days but good old-fashioned news stories with depth and full explanations might never even be read by more than a handful of people.

By Judy K. on 06/04/2009 9:22 am
James the Game
Yes, Judy. My specialties are breaking news, and investigative reporting. My favorite is sports reporting, and I dug doing airbone traffic. Business news is quite exciting nowadays, too, because you have economies attempting to diversify.
By James the Game on 06/04/2009 10:23 am
Judy K.
James, you sound upbeat about your reporting.  Good for you.  Hope that things improve but glad to read that you are enjoying your vocation.  Hope lots of stories come your way.
By Judy K. on 06/04/2009 12:32 pm
S G
I enjoy reading the huffington post. Arianna is trailblazing for future generations.
By S G on 06/04/2009 7:12 am
Honor Authenticity

Arianna Huffington is a hypocrite. While she claims to be the voice of democracy, and has received a sizeable infusion of cash to keep her website going, she only pays a handful of people.

The economic model for the Huffington Post amounts to cyber-feudalism, and it’s a model that is being repeated all over the place.

Shame on you Arianna.

How can you call yourself a Liberal or a Democrat when you don’t pay your people for their work?

By Honor Authenticity on 06/04/2009 8:00 am
C jay

Honor? Take a look at the site you are writing those words on, now.

 

By C jay on 06/05/2009 12:10 am
Maggie W

Insightful interview and two interesting takes on grace by Arianna.

"  The way I say to myself is to move from struggle to grace.  There’s a lot of effort that goes into any kind of project, right?"     (How true.)

"  …..he’s ( Cheney) doing it in a way that is so bitter and so lacking in grace of following the sort of protocols of how you act when you’ve just left office. I mean, he’s really trying to almost get like a third term."   (How true!) 

By Maggie W on 06/04/2009 8:17 am
S G
MEOW!!!!!!!!!!! How the claws have come out. How ridiculous this is becoming. Arianna is runninga website and I am sure its not cheap. She is now getting advertising. I am sure wowowow has plenty of interns and volunteers  working for nothing to try to get it off the ground. I am quite sure she will be paying people as she can. The web is the future of news and media. It doesn’t happen over night. Discussion has obviously left the building sadly enough.
By S G on 06/04/2009 8:20 am
Honor Authenticity

To the best of my knowledge, while wowowow has interns and volunteers, contributors are paid something for their work.

Not so on Huffington. Virtually no one gets paid and this ‘model’ is becomming the standard on the web.

It’s a sad state of affairs for professional journalists and writers and Arianna H. should know better.

There’s no excuse for an owner or publisher selling ads and not compensating for professional services rendered. 

By Honor Authenticity on 06/04/2009 9:03 am
barrett etc
are there contributors to the HUFFINGTON POST that are complaining about lack of payment?
By barrett etc on 06/04/2009 9:37 am
Joni Evans
Hey, now.  This interview with Arianna Huffington by Lesley Stahl has much more interesting material,  than the old Cheney vs Obama songs, doesn’t it?  As for websites, we all struggle, we are all underpaid and we are all trying to find our way in this new economy.  As for wOw, we do have summer and seniors and virtual "interns" and we pay them back in experience. For some, it is the ability to show published works on a resume. Everyone else here is salaried, but nowhere near what traditional media paid and we’ve needed to cut back since our start up days before the economy shifted.  Some day, when whatever model of new journalism wins out, we’ll all hope to earn what the world decides we are worth.
By Joni Evans on 06/04/2009 9:56 am
James the Game

Yes, Joni, it was a good interview. And it’s also good to see wOw occasionally interact with the readership. Sometimes, it appears that the stars atop the wOw banner are disconnected with those who post, and even between themselves.

Someone raised a good suggestion that, perhaps, the site should have an open queue in which people can blog about whatever they want, and not be limited to responding to just the articles posted by the wOw staff. Readers might want to talk about their kids, the weather, sunblock, picnics, Palestine, whatever, but cannot, because it’s "off-topic".

By James the Game on 06/04/2009 10:36 am
Joni Evans

James:  Very very soon.  We have been working on just these tools and want all communications (on site and

off) to be readily available.  

By Joni Evans on 06/04/2009 11:03 am
J Holmes

Joni,

Thank you for stepping in before this got off subject.  I enjoyed reading the interview.

By J Holmes on 06/04/2009 11:59 am