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The Lesley Stahl Interview | 06/23/2009 3:55 pm

The Lesley Stahl Interview: Christiane Amanpour, at the Height of the Iranian Election Crisis

Image courtesy of CNN
LESLEY: Right. But of course, our life path is our life path.

CHRISTIANE: Yes.

LESLEY:
That brings me back to Iran, because I wonder – this is always asked of me as a reporter – what are your biases? What are your opinions? How hard is it for you to cover anything in Iran, given your own family background?

CHRISTIANE:
I understand people asking that question, but I always reject it. I really … I ask people just to look at my body of work. And nobody knows my biases. Do they think I’m against? Do they think I’m for? They don’t know my biases. They don’t know where I come from in this. I just try very hard to report the facts and to tell the stories as best as I can. I am not part of the current crop of opinion journalists or commentary journalists or feelings journalists. I strongly believe that I have to remain in the realm of fact, and from there delve deeper into a society. And I will say one thing very clearly: The lack of information about Iran, in the United States especially but also in the rest of the world, in a way makes my job … it’s sort of like an open well to plumb because anything I say, you know at least increases people’s awareness of what’s going on. And I think the one thing that I have really tried to do over the last now 19 years of covering Iran as a reporter, is try to go beyond the inevitable cliché and the stereotype, which is found strongest in the United States, because the U.S. bases its relationship and its knowledge about Iran on 30 years ago, and has very little impartial reporting to go on. And that’s what I try. But you look right now, if you just look at the television screens right now, all the so-called experts on Iran, 99 percent, are exiles based in the United States, have their own experience, their own history and their own agenda. And so that makes it very difficult for anybody to get a really clear view of what’s going on. That’s what I believe.

LESLEY:
Well, let me ask you then about the state… of where objective journalism is heading.

CHRISTIANE: Yes.

LESLEY: I come out of the same background that you do. I always – I guess the right word is to say, sat on my own opinions because we do have our opinions, you can’t deny that. But I tried as hard as I could to overcome them and to be as impartial a reporter as possible. But I find as I look out on television, and even in my reading, that there’s less and less a market for that kind of reporting. The future seems to be with people who slant their stories. Even my own child, whom I put in that younger generation, says she hates reporting that doesn’t tell her where the correspondent is coming from. And I think she’s representative.

CHRISTIANE: She may be, and she’s obviously reacting to something that’s growing like wildflower now in our business. But the thing is, I get afraid when I read something and I just don’t know – is that the fact, is that the truth, is that somebody’s political bias, or somebody’s cultural bias? And that frightens me. Of course there’s a major role for opinion commentary and there has been since time immemorial. But I strongly think that unless we are able to present people with the objective facts of what’s going on, how are they meant to know what is going on? For instance, right now in Iran I’m telling you with confidence that nobody knows what’s going on there, really, because when you’re just getting Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, amateur videos – and no explanation, no reporting – you just don’t know what’s going on. It’s speculation, it’s guesswork, it’s patchwork.

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JudyK
With cell phones and e-mail and Twitter, et al, women are making themselves heard.  The old ways are being made public and men cant hide their controlling ways without the worlds judgment.  I always thought that womens input in political and formerly considered mens jobs would make men have to modernize and not just go with the old ways.  Todays global world is bringing all the dirty laundry to the forefront in any Country and thats a good thing.
By JudyK on 06/23/2009 4:48 pm
DianaT
Christine Amanpour is one of the most dedicated and courageous female correspondents in the world.  And, one of the most reliable.
By DianaT on 06/23/2009 6:24 pm
WowedbywowOwowNYC
Kudos to Leslie on a great interview. Amanpour has guts and integrity.
By WowedbywowOwowNYC on 06/23/2009 6:55 pm
samantagebremiceal
i loved it  amanpour is one person i belive has integrity and knows how to delv the news sad not many ppl left like that even in cnn the only one in her class is the host of gps on cnn/thx u..
By samantagebremiceal on 06/23/2009 7:53 pm
MaggieW

Christiane and Lesley… two magificent women who tell it like it is.  A few weeks back, I watched Ann Curry in Iran. ( pre election).  Many things I found interesting.  First, so many of the youth not only spoke English but were fluent.  How so?  Yo develop fluency in any language calls for much dialogue. Also, it was so clear then, their voices  were filled with agitation and wanting to be heard…. and for good reason. 

The young woman who was so senselessly killed was taking singing lessons underground.  Women are not allowed to sing in public.  One young couple interviewed by Ann spoke of how they were not allowed to hold hands in public, yet as the cameras rolled, there were many young lovers seated in parks and just strollling.. hand in hand.

It was so obvious there was much discontent before the June 12 election.  The election was the vehicle needed to spark their outrage on many fronts.  The Iranian regime is nuts to try to kill their voices on Tweeter and Facebook.  They know how to get around it.  One British tech said, " One out  of 3 of the best techs in Silicone Valley is Iranian."

By MaggieW on 06/23/2009 7:58 pm
sibelledaubigne
Why would some posts be deleted for recognizing Fareed Zakaria as a strong and top international journalist in the US ? No, Lesley Stahl and Christianne Amanpour are NOT TOP international journalists. Amanpour for different reasons could’nt get Fareed Zakaria’s position on CNN. While i respect her very much, she is a bit "Passee".
By sibelledaubigne on 06/23/2009 8:03 pm
marylous
i respect and admire christiane amanpour, lesley stahl, and fareed zakaria. we need them all. i seek out their work, even to the extent of coming to wow to read it.
By marylous on 06/23/2009 8:45 pm
PatriciaM1
Same for me Mary Lou S, all are very intelligent, seasoned journalists, something ALOT of these WoW posters are not used to.  ;-)
By PatriciaM1 on 06/23/2009 10:23 pm
DawnSmith
I received this interview in 2 parts on my email. I commented on the first one I read and now that I’ve read it completely I have to say one thing. I truly appreciate a journalist who gives the facts and not their own interpretation. The news media is guilty of spin doctoring. Sway public opinion one way and then the other so that after awhile nobody cares anymore. It becomes too complicated to find the truth beneath the lies.  Americans are watching their country go through great turmoil right now. Recession, depression, people losing their jobs, their homes, their health. As much as I feel bad for other countries that have civil unrest I think we as Americans had better turn the mirror toward ourselves.We need to fix what’s wrong with us before we fix what we perceive is wrong with you.
By DawnSmith on 06/23/2009 10:50 pm
phyllisDoylePepe

Dawn:  Re: your last sentence: We have to do both. We are all in this together––even those tiny little islands that we forget are there and yet may have one of the thousands of bases we have situated all over the world. We are ONE as  the that song told us years ago.

Interesting interview. C A is one of the best and we are mighty lucky to have her. 

By phyllisDoylePepe on 06/24/2009 11:03 am
JHolmes
"…the more foreign news and the more understanding about our complicated world for Americans, the better." Definitely need to have on the ground reporting in other countries to better understand what is going on outside the U.S.
By JHolmes on 06/23/2009 11:34 pm
MichelleMehlhorn

Christiane Amanpour is a such a remarkable, valuable and refreshing reporter.  The only disagreement I have with her is that there is, indeed, another place for in depth reporting on TV and that is The Newshour.  Every day they have balanced, in depth discussions.

Michelle Mehlhorn

By MichelleMehlhorn on 06/24/2009 12:43 am
KristyB
I’ve always enjoyed Ms. Amanpour’s reports and documentaries.  She’s truly talented! 
By KristyB on 06/24/2009 11:11 am
KatyDidWells

I’ve always had deep respect for Christiane Amanpour.  If listening to or watching the news and I hear her name, I stop and listen/watch everytime.

I am firmly in the camp of wishing all journalists kept their opinions to themselves.  It’s called the "news", not the opinion hour - just tell me what I need to know so I can form my own opinion. 

This may sound cynical, but I think there are a great number of people who have stopped thinking for themselves, simply because there are so many people in the media willing to do it for them.

I’m not sure where and when it changed along the way, but I’m sorry to see it so. 

By KatyDidWells on 06/24/2009 1:11 pm
MaurineH
I found this interview very moving, especially since Christiane Amanpour was born in Iran and is obviously deeply concerned about the future of her native country. But it is her clear insistence on speaking to the facts and not allowing biased interpretation of events to cloud her reporting that impresses me most. She is correct in criticizing the sort of reporting we see so frequently on TV now, interpretive and politically biased. This reporting seeks only to skew the facts rather than simply presenting them to the public. Amanpour has always been successful in divorcing her own opinions from her reporting assignments, and this is the reason I have respected her for years. She is a strong, intelligent, courageous reporter. She educates us. And, furthermore, she is a woman. We need more women like Christiane Amanpour covering world events.
By MaurineH on 06/24/2009 1:47 pm