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Wall Street Weekly | 10/30/2009 12:00 pm

Liz Peek: Grandiosity, Not Common Sense, Drives Health-Care Bill

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Bears, Bulls, Chickens and Pigs: wOw’s Wall Street Weekly with Liz Peek (Week of 10/26) 

Editor’s Note: Liz Peek is a financial columnist.

The stock market cheered the resurgent economy yesterday, after losing ground for four days in a row. The 3.5% gain in real GDP was welcome but, since nearly half of the improvement came from the Cash for Clunkers program, I wouldn’t break out the bubbly quite yet.

ISI Group notes that economic recoveries historically mirror the extent of the downturn; the worse the falloff, the faster the bounce-back. They say that, given the recession-caused 3.8% collapse in GDP, the quarter should have jumped 10%. No one was looking for that kind of pop, given the debt load and job anxieties still weighing on Americans. Indeed, today’s report that consumer spending sank 0.5% in September (the biggest drop in nine months) underlines the fragility of the recovery. For further proof, just ask the 530,000 newly laid-off Americans that went looking for unemployment insurance last week.

HSBC’s economists had forecast 4% growth for the quarter. They were too bullish because they overestimated the government’s stimulus spending. The shortfall was in outlays from the cities and states, which unexpectedly turned down. This raises an interesting question, no doubt being asked by the 26 million Americans looking for full-time jobs. What ever happened to the stimulus program?

We do not have to risk fundamentally weakening the health care currently found satisfactory by nearly 80% of Americans.

If you’re wondering where our $787 billion went, visit the Recovery.gov website. The quick answer is … nowhere. Out of the entire program, only $173.2 billion has been paid out. Of the $14 billion in federal contracts awarded so far, for example, only a little over $2 billion has been received. There are some terrific projects that have received funding, though. My particular favorite is the $219,000 spent on a study of the sex lives of freshmen women at Syracuse University. You might prefer the "Week Mapping Radioactive Rabbit Feces With Detectors Mounted on a Helicopter Flying 50 Feet Over the Desert Scrub," which cost $300,000. If you’re a golfer, you’re probably thrilled with the $5,500 tax credit being applied to the purchases of golf carts.

Some of these projects make me chuckle, but the failure to create jobs for Americans is no laughing matter. A story in today’s Financial Times points out that "more than 8 out of 10 U.S. stimulus dollars spent on wind energy farms have gone to foreign companies." Cash that has gone to wind farms has funded 4,500 jobs overseas. Oops.

Well, after all, it’s the government, and no one expects perfection, or timeliness, or accountability. Then why in heaven’s name are we about to allow the government to interfere in our health care? It is inconceivable to me that Democrat leaders in the House and Senate and the Obama administration are bulling ahead with health-care legislation that Americans do not want, that we cannot afford and that is likely to detract seriously from the most pressing issue before us: putting people back to work.

Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and President Obama have reinvigorated the so-called "public option" based primarily on a couple of recent polls that say that Americans favor a government-run insurance program. Everyone should look up the actual WSJ/NBC poll that supposedly "green lighted" the public option. Early on, respondents are asked if the country is headed in the right direction. Over half (52%) say no, up from 43% in April. The sixth question asks people whether they approve (43%) or disapprove (48%) of the way Obama is handling health-care reform. In answering question No. 10, 48% of those surveyed say the government is doing too many things, while 46% say it is not doing enough. Responding to question 26, 42% said they think the president’s health plan is a bad idea, versus 38% who think it is a good idea, and in the follow-up 40% think that the legislation will make their health care worse (vs. 21% who think it will get better) and 47% think the cost will go up, while 13% think it will go down. Does this group sound enthusiastic about more government involvement?

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deber B

Helen, Liz Peek speaks for the majority of Americans in this country.    Seen the polls lately?    To call Liz Peek an elitist and a very callous person because you do not agree with her comments is a cheap shot.   The polls are, in fact, important, as they register the heartbeat of America.    You may not like Obama’s plummeting numbers and therefore discount the polls.   However, I believe I can promise you that if the polls were extremely favorable for Obama you would be cheering them on.  

Keeping the American people dependent on the government is wrong on so many levels.    The republicans believe in personal responsibility and the democrats love to spend other people’s hard earned money to keep two and three generation families hopelessly dependent on the government.   Whatever happened to "teach a man to fish?"   

Someone mentioned the people in Appalachia….some of the poorest states in our country.   This is a very good example of those families who have been dependent on the government handouts for several generations.   Instead of leaving their states to find employment and education opportunities they stay in the same old broken down towns that offer them nothing in the way of a future.  They’ve now become hopelessly dependent on the government.   Where’s the personal responsibility? 

I’m always amazed at those states run by a democrat that continue to have the worst crime in their inner cities.   They’ve done nothing to help them get on their feet and become self supporting.   Their system has not worked for the poor.    You have to teach a man to fish not throw him a fish once a month.     I could never be a democrat because they literally get nothing done for the poor except keep them poor.    

By deber B on 11/02/2009 2:53 pm
Helen Moran
deber, we will never agree. I could never be a republican, the party of big corporations and personal wealth. In case you are myopic, crime is running rampant in ALL big cities, and it is misleading to say its only a democratic state’s problem. If any one keeps the poor poor it is every republican president in the last 50 years at least. They make all the appropriate noises about the poor but once in office it is business as usual.As for the poor depending on the government, who else should they depend on?  What has the Republican party done for the poor? I want you to walk into a home where no one is working, illness is all to apparent, they are under educated, due to pretty lousy schools, and tell these same people you feel for them and hope they will learn how to live a decent life, learn on their own, because sorry, Republicans are concentrated on making sure big companies get perks for out sourcing jobs, for banking profits off shore, and CEOs NEED those big bonuses. Get real.
By Helen Moran on 11/02/2009 5:14 pm
Frannie Em

Helen

I have enjoyed reading your conversation with Stacy and Deber, on the whole a lot of really smart ideas and it is interesting to me how much people actually agree on.  More than I thought before.  The interesting thing that has happened in the last 10 years is that there are not more democrats at the head of large corporations than there are republicans.  Jeffrey Immelt of GE is a republican, but because of GE and it’s flourescent (mercury filled) light bulbs and it’s Wind Energy program, they have sidled up to the Obama administration like there is no tomorrow. 

Another interesting turn of events is that Wall Street is more democrat as well.  Wall Street was a big backer of Obama during the election, much much more than McCain.  Obviously the power centers have changed considerably.  I believe the republicans do not have many new interesting ideas and therefore need a whole game change to make themselves sellable.  The democrats have disappointed me in so many ways and I left them a long time ago and became an independent.

I am not sure about universal healthcare - I do know that the bill they have now is the wrong bill.  They are not listening to we the people, and the CBO now says that only 2% of those over 65 will benefit from this bill and it will cost more than a trillion dollars.  As long as the CBO keeps scoring the bill so poorly, I am concerned.

Something has to be done about healthcare, but I really think they have missed the mark with the bill in it’s present form. 

By Frannie Em on 11/02/2009 10:06 pm
Frannie Em

Helen

Third sentence should read….. "there are NOW more democrats…".

 

By Frannie Em on 11/02/2009 10:07 pm
Helen Moran
Hi Frannie, you are right about the healthcare bill, its still not the best one, but I am hoping it will be tweaked a bit more before the final bill is cut. Power has never been stagnant here, and thankfully changes every so often. What bothers me are the career politicians of both parties who long outstay their time in power. After 8 or 10 years, they should have to give it up. After that time period, they become more interested in holding on to their seats than in what we the people need or want. There is that rare pol who does try to always do right by their constituents, but they are few and far between. Not because she is a republican, but that Michelle Backmann is one step ahead of the net. Right now, the republican party is in shambles and the right wing nut jobs are taking it over. It seems to me that the real republicans are afraid to speak up. I firmly believe in the 2 party system, and I would like to see it robust and healthy again. As for our duly elected President, i only wish him the best of luck. I do not want him to fail, because then we fail, and anyone who can’t see that is just plain dumb. Sorry for preaching, you sound like a nice thoughtful person and it was nice hearing from you.
By Helen Moran on 11/02/2009 11:01 pm
Frannie Em

Helen

You are right, if the president fails, then we fail.  It is not good to render our president powerless.  Yes, Bachman gives me pause but she doesn’t represent all those on the right.  I am an independent from California so I vote both ways.  

I think what is most concerning to me about the healthcare bill is that it reminds me of the run-up to the Iraq War.  Many repubs were behind it and the atmosphere was that the govt must know something and how to protect us….. blah blah blah.  I was extremely opposed to that war and very wary of the arguments for it, and now I feel the same way about this healthcare bill.  There is this big run-up to try to get it done when it is a lousy bill.  

The crazy thing is, I honestly think if they had waited and did more about jobs and had a couple more "wins" under their belts, they could have taken the time and really gotten a better bill ready for we the people, and would not have had as much opposition to it.   As it stands today, the CBO recently graded it as only helping 2% of the uninsured and costing $1 and a half trillion.  i just don’t see how that makes any sense to vote for.  Something definitely has to be done -I am self-employed and have to pay for my own insurance, and since I have a pre-condition I can’t switch insurers.  My premiums are through the roof. The Health Insurers are where the reform must start.

By Frannie Em on 11/02/2009 11:51 pm
Helen Moran
You are right about healthcare in a lot of ways. The major problem is with the insurance companies and the strangle hold they have on the market. I did not mean that Backmann runs the party, its just that her and Limbaugh Beck Steele etc, are the only republicans the rest of see or hear from. I know the party was badly damaged by GWB, but, I have always thought the scariest republican is Dick Cheyney. A real Macchiavelli, and cold blooded. I just heard about his testimony re: Valerie Phlame [Ikniw I spelled that wrong] and the man was dead on lying and let others take the blame. The Iraq war was never anything but a grab for oil. We Americans have had a lot to deal with these last years and I don’t think it will all be behind us for a while. I think I know why the President is trying to deal with healthcare right now, its because a lot of people think if not now, Insurance Companies will regain strenght and make sure not ever. I think Hilliary Clinton’s bill, back in 1994 was pretty good. I wish they would revisit her proposal for reform. Well, it is almost 2 A.M. here, and I need to get some sleep. Have a good one, we’ll surely talk again.
By Helen Moran on 11/03/2009 12:53 am
Frannie Em

Helen

As to the Insurance companies gaining more power, I think they hold the cards right now.  They helped write a lot of this bill. I think that at this point it is a mess. I heard today that Reid now says they won’t get on it until January.  I want something done to bring prices down and supply health care for those that can’t afford it.  

Just think what would happen if everyone on the country gave up their health insurance in protest of the current debacle in the system and high prices.  (I know, crazy huh?)  It would bring the insurers to their knees.  They would be so out of business they would have to change.  

Eye laser surgery is not covered by insurance, and neither is plastic surgery and things like botox, and those prices have come down through the years as more doctors provide the services because they compete with lower prices.  

I think the first mistake that America bought into was health insurance.  They turned that industry into a God in our lives. Especially since it was provided through an employer that paid part of our premiums so we got disconnected from actual costs and therefore didn’t take the time to find good doctors at a better price - it let the market do whatever it wanted.  Remember when there was the small town doctor or country doctor, as well as doctors that made house calls?  People paid them at a much smaller rate.  

There are some industries that have opened up clinics for their employees and it has cut the medical costs of everyone involved.  

It seems to me that the republicans and democrats have the same problem.  They devise legislation more to secure power than to really solve problems.  And neither party knows how to change.  Not really.  They just keep doing things in the same old way with the same old methods.  Isn’t that the definition of insanity. 

By Frannie Em on 11/05/2009 12:50 am
Sara Smile

Frannie Em — absolutely awesome post!   You make so many excellent points.  

You are spot on that our high healthcare costs are a direct result of the fact that for so long Americans were so disconnected from the actual cost of health care.    I don’t think the concept of health insurance is bad.   I just think the way we approach health insurance, depending on our employers to offer it, is where the problem is — as Maggie indicated in an earlier post, I don’t buy my auto and home owner insurance through my employer — why get health insurance through my employer?  

The only thing I disagree with you on is that I do not see the healthcare bill as a grab for power — unfortunately, I believe that in an effort to get "bi-partisan" support, the healthcare bill has been watered down.   I believe the Democrats should just gut it out and forget about worrying about "bi-partisan" support — they are giving the Party of No too much influence on the bill.

 

 

By Sara Smile on 11/05/2009 7:41 am
Frannie Em

Sara

You are right, the concept of health insurance isn’t bad, it is just how we approach it that is the problem.  Maybe if it was not bought through the employers and every family got tax credits for it - or something, I think we would have a completely different situation right now.  More competition in the system.  

Besides Medicare and Medicaid reform which would clean up the fraud, we definitely have to take a look at torte reform.  Reid and Pelosi handed a gift to the trial lawyers with one paragraph in the bill which would deny states that have torte reform, other credits or monies.  The trial lawyers don’t want runaway medical awards to be addressed - so that won’t bring down what doctors charge because they will have to continue buying high premiums for malpractice insurance.  

California has torte limitations on awards and it is slowly changing the environment.  Our problem is that we have a higher percentage of welfare recipients in California than anywhere else in the nation, so our medicare and medicaid costs are enormous.

One argument that everyone makes about healthcare reform is that the US has the highest cost of healthcare in the world. More than half of that cost is due to medicare and $90 Billion of medicare cost is due to fraud in the system.  I wish I knew if the bill addressed that.  

The republicans recently released their bill and it was scored by the Congressional Budget Office.  My husband told me what the results were, but I can’t remember them all and haven’t looked them up.  The CBO scored their bill as bringing down the deficit, would lower healthcare costs and not raise taxes on anyone.  If the fraud is stopped in medicare then there will be more funds for the uninsurable who should be taken care of.

By Frannie Em on 11/05/2009 12:28 pm
Sara Smile

Hi Frannie!   First, I have to tell you — I so enjoy reading your posts and certainly respect your ideas.   However, I do have to say — I think living in California gives you a different perspective than mine — I have lived the majority of my life in the Midwest.   Our reality is certainly different than that experienced in California.   =)    

I’m not particularly in favor of torte reform, because I believe doctors need to be held accountable.   The travesty is that doctors do not "police" their own — patients cannot police doctors, doctors are really the only people who are in a position to identify whether or not another doctor is medically proficient (there’s probably a better term, but I can’t think of it).   In a lot of ways, I think the high jury awards are a symptom of juries frustration at that fact that doctors do not step up to the plate and call out other doctors who they know are substandard.

I simply do not understand why Medicare/Medicaid fraud seems to be so hard to stop — certainly the IRS seems to be pretty good at stopping tax fraud.  

Again, thank you for your thought provoking posts — I enjoy reading them.

By Sara Smile on 11/06/2009 8:14 am
Helen Moran
Frannie, you are so right. We have let an industry take over something that never should have been driven by profit. Insurance Companies make millions off of illness. We must look around the world, check out other countries universal health coverage, and tailor these ideas into a plan for America. I firmly believe this country was founded FOR the people, but, we have let politicians, over the years, change the central ideas of our founders. I hate labels, but, those same founders took ideas from everywhere. Politicians and Insurance companies will cry socialism, while the are exchanging millions of dollars keeping the status quo. Health Insurance carriers, should NOT be "for profit" enterprises.
By Helen Moran on 11/05/2009 9:02 am
deber B

Frannie Em, interesting post.   The one constant about this administration is that they are inefficient and have failed at every attempt to bring the changes that Americans want.   They are too radical for most Americans and this can be validated weekly by the polls.    The wreckless spending has to stop.     I voted 23 minutes ago for McDonnell as our Republican Governor here in Virginia.    He is leading by double digits.    The tide has turned.    Republicans are now scrambling to put their moderate party back together.   Perhaps one day the republicans can step back and state with confidence that electing Barack Obama was the best thing that ever happened to this country.    We now know what a radical looks like and how dangerous they can be for America.   Virginia will elect a republican governor today.   It can happen today in New Jersey and in New York.  

Let’s vote Barack Obama and his radical band of thieves out of our White House and bring personal responsibility back to our country.   No more two and three generation welfare families.   Let’s get America back up on her feet and get these families back into the mainstream through education, training and a strong sense of pride in themselves and their country.   Obama wants to keep them dependent on the government.   We want them trained and working and a part of our working society.

By deber B on 11/03/2009 5:29 am
Frannie Em

deber

You’ve said a lot, but I can’t agree on a lot of it.  I don’t see how the republicans did any better.  The prosperity of the time was a false prosperity and no one was watching the fox in the hen house.  I think that more and more the political parties are more interested in securing power with legislation than really cleaning up government or spending.  

I think that Barack Obama has been good for the country because he has not let healthcare debate drop, many presidents would have.  The bill, in it’s current state, will be a bureaucratic nightmare and bankrupt the country, but at least the president has kept pushing at the issue because something definitely needs to be done to lower costs and provide the uninsurable with some kind of relief.  I hope they toss this bill and maybe start over, but I don’t know if I am that lucky.  

I have read the republican’s version of a healthcare bill and there are many things on it that I have been blogging about forever- here and elsewhere which is good to see, but I believe it continues to lack some fundamental things.  They have not addressed the uninsurable that make too much so cannot receive medicaid.  They have not faced those who will fall through the cracks.  They are citizens and have been paying taxes for a long time, why shouldn’t they get help?

Are the dems too inclusive to the point of bankrupting the nation, and the repubs too exclusive to the point of forgetting about some that suffer and cannot get help elsewhere?  We are a rich and generous country.  There must be a way to solve this.  But, as I said, I don’t think either party has the ability to change - they keep trying to apply the same old ideas and think that some of those things - that didn’t solve it before - will solve it now.

By Frannie Em on 11/05/2009 1:06 am