Liz Smith | 06/19/2009 10:20 pm
Liz Smith on Obama's Dogfight
In response to: What should the U.S. do IF the Iranian election was not honest? And if it was, did the outcome set us back?
We should keep supporting President Obama’s status in this dogfight (it’s not our country), and we should be encouraging to the people of Iran. Even Pat Buchanan, arch conservative, believes Obama’s position on Iran is the right one. What does the Conservative Right want? Another war for us with Iran or to worsen relations with a government and a people that may be softening up without the irritation of George Bush. Regardless of who, which side is in power in the near future in Iran, that is who Obama will have to deal and negotiate with. We should stand aside and let Iran speak for itself.
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Kelly,
I definitely feel the protestors need arms.
I’ve always felt in the US that citizens should not be able to have such weapons - that they were only for police. My justification was always that people get hurt using them, kids get hurt……. And we’ve already had our civil war, so what would I need a gun for, short of deterring a burglar in my home? That was my thinking.
But with what’s going on in Iran I’m seeing things in a different light now. What if, just what if, a bunch of terrorists hit on my neighborhood. Wouldn’t I want the protection of a gun? And the answer is yes. I might shoot myself in the foot, but yes, I would want to be able to defend myself,
Andrea…it is so hard to watch the pictures coming in of those people. I feel for them, unarmed with no way to protect their families. The students…hard to imagine. But one never knows what might happen.
Just wait until you see the whites of their eyes! ;]
I know. Did you see the photo of Neda that was taken after she was killed? Breaks my heart.
They had a large rally in Irvine, CA, and in Westwood, CA. Both cities are home to University of CA campuses and a large international population. Many non-Iranians protesting side by side.
When I think of the power that the Iranian government wields - it’s horrible.
Hello Andrea, I appreciate your thoughts on this subject.
I have posted this link in another thread, but it does present an interesting perspective on the gun issue so I want to post it again here as food for thought. Suzanna Hupp speaks from experience and makes a thoughtful and compelling case for gun ownership. (I join Ms. Hupp as a citizen who is adamant about our right to bear arms.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1u0Byq5Qis
When I hear the "get rid of all guns" arguments, I remember what my hubby always used to say: "If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns." Now THERE’S a scary truth!
Countrywoman,
Thanks so much for the link, which I will be viewing shortly.
I must admit that CA has tried to get people to turn in guns in an effort to get the guns off the street. From what little I know, the gangs still have theirs. So your husband was right.
BARBARA B I SO AGREE WITH THE BOTH OF YOU WOODY MC/ AND YOU . LET THEM DO THEIR OWN COUNTRY AND WE AMERICANS HAVE SO MANY THIGN S FOR US TO GET RIGHT IT IS AMAZING. THERE IS ONE THING I WANT STRAIGHTENED OUT AND THAT IS ——————THESE ILLIGALS COMING IN AND TAKING OUR WELFARE AND OUR SOCIAL SECURITY AND OUR MEDICARE WHAT A RIP OFF OFF THEY ARE AND THAT SHOULD NOT BE UNLESS THEY LIVED AND WERE BRON IN THE U.S.OF A. AND THTA THEY WORKED THEIR REAR ENDS OFF LIKE WE HAVE . MY HUSBAND HAS VASCULAR DISEASE AND HE HAS HAD 15 LITTERALLY LIFE SAVING SURGERIES THAT TOOK LIKE 141/2 HRS. FOR THE LONGEST AND HE REPEATEDLY DIED AND WHEN HE GOT OUT OF THE HOSPITALS AND I BROUGHT HIM HOME HE HAD AND STILL HAS PLASTIC TUBING GOING INTO AND OUT OF HIS HEART AND DOWN BOTH LEGS AND HIS RIGHT ARM. HE COULDN’T GET DISABILITY. THAT WAS IN 1990 THEN THE LAST ONES HE HAD WERE MOSTLY IN THE LAST YEAR BUT HE HAD ABOUT ONE A YEAR AND HE HAD TO GO BACK TO WORK IN 6 TO 12 WEEKS. HE IS A FEM-DE-FEM AND DOWN BOTH LEGS 2 TIMES EACH. BUT HE AND I WITH 6 KIDS COULD NOT GET ANY HELP BECAUSE HE STILL HAD A JOB OT GO TO . THE ONLY RELIEF WE GET IS GRADUALLY OUR KIDS WENT TO THE SERVICE (2 SONS DID ) AND THE 3 GIRLS GOT MARRIED THE OTHER ONE HAS BEEN A QUAD FOR THE LAST 27 YEARS. MY HUSBAND IS NOTW TURNING 75 YRS. OLD AND HE STILL HAS OT WORK IN OUR TOWN WE HAVE WOMEN WHO ARE MEXICAN FROM OLD MEXICO AND THEY ALL 3 GET MEDICARE AND MEDICAID, FOOD STAMPS AND I MET THEM AT THE DOLLAR TREE HERE IN TOWN. I AM 70 AND THEY ARE 62 AND 64 AND 67 YRS. OLD. THEIR KIDS GOT THEM SNUCK UP HERE. THEY ARE SISTERS. HOW IS THTA!! FOR A MESSED UP GOVERNMENT ALREADY? THEY HAVE BEEN HERE FOR WELL SINCE FEBRUARY 2004. 5 YRS AND ALMOST A 1/2….. I TOLD THE LADIES YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY YOU ARE ALL 3 IN GOOD HEALTH AND A GOOD COUNTRY. WELL TAKEN CARE OF. THEYNEVER THOUGHT A THING ABOUT TELLING ME ABOUT HOW IT IS HERE AND THERE. THEY BRAGGED.
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I’ll have to say that I don’t recall ever having agreed with any of Pat Buchanan’s opinions, but I think he was right to say that President Obama’s positon on Iran is the correct one.
It may take years for Iranian citizens to realize the changes they seek. Our country ‘s leaders must find ways to deal with the leaders of Iran, no matter who they are.
It’s going to require extraordinary diplomatic expertise to balance our response to the unacceptable behavior of the leaders of Iran with our desire to support the Iranian people who are protesting for change.