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Muslim Head Scarves, Hijab | 08/27/2009 8:30 am

Muslim Woman Sues Michigan Judge for Ordering Her to Remove Head Scarf (Video)

CAIR and woman from Iraq sue judge who said no headwear was allowed in his courtroom; other state courts also dealing with issue.
By The Staff at wowOwow.com
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The hijab and the American court system have clashed once again.

Raneen Albaghdady, originally from Iraq and now of Wayne County, MI, has sued a Michigan judge who ordered that she remove her head covering in court when she was petitioning for a name change. The Michigan chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations is also bringing the lawsuit. But Judge William Callahan, the target of the suit, and the 3rd Circuit Court of Michigan said Albaghdady didn’t object to removing her head covering and that she never said she wore it for religious reasons.

CNN says
the lawsuit seeks an order declaring the practice of "forcing Muslim women to remove their hijab as a precondition to appearing in court" unconstitutional and illegal.

This isn’t the first run-in the courts have had with hijabs. The Judicial Council of Georgia last month decided to allow religious attire such as hijabs in that state’s courtrooms. A woman there was jailed for refusing to remove her head scarf.

To our wOw readers: Do you think courts should be forced to allow religious headwear in the courtroom? What sort of precedent will it set? Good or bad?

Watch a recent news report of the incident below:

 

395 Reader Comments (so far…) Sign In or Register to comment

C Hardy
Amen Maggie - I am with you and the Judge….Also my husband can’t wear his hat which is part of his official state uniform into court……….
By C Hardy on 08/27/2009 12:40 pm
Maggie W

There you go.  There’s something missing here. She should have approached the bench concerning the head scarf if it was so important to her.  If she had representation, that person should have done so.  But according to the article, this big brouhaha happened after her appearance.  Yes, we should all have acceptance and tolerance of all religions.  There is no, " I am right and you are wrong."  I also believe that we should not allow our own religious beliefs to dictate the conduct of a court.  As Wendy says, then we are going to have one big mess on our hands when someone decides to show up with red blinking lights and a bowl of snakes on his head. 

A problem has always been ,and will continue to be,  is many people believe the rules should be for everyone else but not for them.

By Maggie W on 08/27/2009 1:11 pm
Gianna Bracco

I agree with you, Maggie, especially your comment above about this not being an issue until a lawyer got involved.  Who the heck cares?  People face dress codes every day, in the workplace or elsewhere.  A friend of my daughter’s is a dental assistant with some sort of large Buddhist symbol tattooed on her forearm, and her boss does not want it showing.  She must either wear long sleeves (in AZ), or, as she has been doing, checking out the price of removal.  But I suppose in today’s world of trivial pursuit, this could be a potential lawsuit.

Isn’t it ironic that Muslims, especially women, are coming from countries where they are fortunate to be able to have their most basic human rights respected, and would probably never even have a voice in a court at of law, but come to this country and start challenging trivialities at every turn.  There are a lot of wacky judges out there; take the darn thing off, get your name change (whatever that’s all about), put it back on.  Done.  So what??  She has accomplished something she would probably not even be able to do in her country of origin.  And, for the record, there seems to be truckloads of laws regarding Muslim women, and what they are and are not allowed to do, and I don’t agree with them and would hope that same judge would not either if she was abused, denied an education, sold off in marriage at  ten years old, etc. whether that is part of their religion or not.

I live in Chicago, and just this morning there was an article about a Muslim man who went to Wisconsin, bought 4 lambs for $400, hogtied them, threw him in his truck and drove back to the city where the plan was to have them slaughtered according to his religious practice, and eat them for Ramadan.  Only problem, he decided to kill one in his garage, and that didn’t sit too well with the neighbors, who called the cops.  He’s sitting in handcuffs for 8 hours trying to figure out what the problem is!  I’m going to admit it - I think this is hysterical.  I may be in "outrage overload," and, if so, I’m glad.  There are some things that call for outrage, like our messed up health care system, or gangs taking over neighborhoods and terrorizing people, and hundreds more, but I think our world has been trivialized to an extent that it is not good for our kids.

At one time, certain restaurants had dress codes; didn’t they even sometimes give a man a sportcoat if he didn’t have one on?  Schools around here have dress codes (everyone the same to cut down on gang trouble,) even stores have signs "no shoes, no shirts, no service," and that’s fine.  I think we should all just file one giant class action lawsuit for whatever slights, humiliations, or rejections we have ever faced in this life and get it over with.

By Gianna Bracco on 08/27/2009 2:42 pm
Maggie W
Great post, Gianna.  It seems that this woman got in a huff after some lawyers chirped in her ear. They want the judge to respect her but believe they do not have to respect the judge’s rules which includes attire.  Perhaps she drew a cranky judge.  That’s beside the point; he’s the judge.  She is not.   Recently, a young man was being sentenced for drug trafficking.  During the sentencing, his cousin let put a loud yawn.  The judge gave him six months.  Immediately, a lawyer got involved, claiming that a "yawn is involuntary and he had no control ".  To that, I say " Bullsh!t".  If ever there is a time to show respect, it is in a court of law and during the Pledge/National Anthem.  No excuses.
By Maggie W on 08/27/2009 3:31 pm
Irish Eyes NY
Well Mags: I have to say, I agree with you on this issue.
By Irish Eyes NY on 08/29/2009 4:43 pm
phyllis Doyle Pepe
Wendy: this sounds like the argument some make for wanting equal rights for gay marriage. "If you allow that kind of thing,  pretty soon you are going to have multiple people getting hooked up, fathers marrying daughters,…" and so forth or in your case snake religions. Luckily, the snakes have not taken over any religion, but if and when they do, we’ll need to let them have a seat at the table, or on the bench, in this case. 
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 08/28/2009 10:59 am
Wendy R
I will say how closed minded some on this site are. People are talking like there are three religions in this country christian, Muslim, Jewish. Religions that practice with venomous snakes do exist and how close minded to discount other religions.

Obscure Pentecostal groups within southeastern sates, mostly in Appalachia; handle copperheads and other poisonous reptiles during their religious services. Perhaps as many as 2,000 Americans in about 40 churches practice this risky religious ritual.

Jediism is a non-theistic new religious movement based upon the philosophical and spiritual ideas of the Jedi as depicted in Star Wars media.The real-world Jedi assert the existence of the Force, and advocate adherence to the Jedi code. According to recent censuses in some English-speaking countries, over 500,000 people declared their religion as Jedi, in addition, a few Jedi churches/temples exist around the world.

Haitian Vodou or Vaudou is a syncretic religion originating from the Caribbean country of Haiti, located on the island of Hispaniola. It is based upon a merging of the beliefs and practices of West Africanpeoples. To make just a couple examples, there are many religions in this country. To say "Luckily the snakes have not taken over any religion" is biased and that is my point, everyone wants to have respect and considerations of certain religions and their customs and not others, how hypocritical of so many on this site. I will add I am all for gay marriage being legal in this country.

By Wendy R on 08/28/2009 1:14 pm
phyllis Doyle Pepe
Wendy: Most of us, I would think, are well aware that there are hundreds of different kinds of religious practices. What this has to do with the issue at hand is irrelevant. The issue here is what laws are on the books in what states that prohibit certain garb in the court room, and whether those laws are fair. But thanks for listing some of these other sects. Actually would love to see some snakes crawling around in some of these court rooms––might cause some venomous verisimilitude.
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 08/28/2009 5:45 pm
Eldebbo C
If these people are just visiting, then I don’t have a problem with them keeping to their normalcy, however, if they now live here and are trying to get citizenship, they need to obied by our normalcy and laws.
By Eldebbo C on 08/27/2009 10:46 am
DeBúrca obj
Eldebbo, explain the ‘law’ that she broke. What is it?
By DeBúrca obj on 08/27/2009 10:52 am
Eldebbo C
I was referring to an earlier post. That being said, I have been in a few courtrooms in my time and I came to understand that a judge at the time he/she is presiding in that courtroom can make any laws he/she sees fit. When your are in court, whether you are going in front of the judge or even if you are just a visitor, as soon as the judge enters the room, he typically lets everyone know he/she’s in charge.
By Eldebbo C on 08/27/2009 2:05 pm
DeBúrca obj
A judge cannot make rules that break the law of the land. Religious discrimination is the law of the land. And if nuns can wear their habits in court, so can Islamic women.
By DeBúrca obj on 08/27/2009 9:34 pm
DeBúrca obj
clarification: it is the law of the land that we may NOT have religious discrimination
By DeBúrca obj on 08/27/2009 9:35 pm
Eldebbo C
I agree that that is the way it should be. However, there are some judges out there that think in their courtroom, they can make their own laws. I don’t agree with it that’s just the way I’ve seen it at times.
By Eldebbo C on 08/27/2009 9:56 pm
DeBúrca obj
Therefore this lawsuit is a good thing. It can help define what the law actually IS so that judges will not bend or break it.
By DeBúrca obj on 08/28/2009 10:12 am