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Question of the Day | 10/27/2009 4:00 am

Step into Nancy Pelosi's shoes for a moment: What should be done about Charles Rangel (D-NY)? What do you think will be done?

Mary Wells, Whoopi Goldberg, Liz Smith, Joan Ganz Cooney and Candice Bergen slip into Madame Speaker’s pumps for a few seconds and confront Charles Rangel …
Nancy Pelosi/ Charles Rangel

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Liz Smith

Liz Smith | 10/27/2009 12:00 am

Liz Smith on Charles Rangel: Nancy Pelosi's 'Lily'

If I were in Nancy Pelosi’s shoes I’d have acted long ago to treat Congressman Charles Rangel exactly the same way she’d have treated a Republican caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Let Rangel be examined and let him come clean. He has been a valuable Democratic representative for New York but that doesn’t cut any ice if he has done something wrong. I really don’t know what the outcome of this will be but he shouldn’t be treated differently from anyone else. I am a Democrat. But I don’t like the way Pelosi seems to have gilded this lily.
Joan Ganz Cooney

Joan Ganz Cooney | 10/27/2009 12:00 am

Joan Ganz Cooney: Will Public Opinion Weigh on Pelosi?

I have no idea of what all the political considerations are for Nancy Pelosi. She’ll probably do as little as she can get away with unless forced by public opinion to do otherwise.
Candice Bergen

Candice Bergen | 10/27/2009 12:00 am

Candice Bergen Refuses to Step Into Pelosi's Shoes

I would rather not put my feet in them. Thank you.
Mary Wells

Mary Wells | 10/27/2009 12:00 am

Mary Wells: Congressman Rangel – In Pelosi's Shadow?

I know a lot about shoes and some shoes are better quality than others. A lot of influential people will judge Nancy Pelosi’s shoes by how she walks Congressman Rangel through these coming months. He was overseeing U.S. Income Tax Code while not reporting his own income from a house he owned at a resort and from apartments he rented out – recently even more rental property was found that he did not report. I believe he has survived attempts to discipline him. I wonder why. If you failed to report income from rental property what do you think would happen to you? Whenever I see a picture of Nancy Pelosi I will think of her shoes – and Congressman Rangel.
Whoopi Goldberg

Whoopi Goldberg | 10/27/2009 12:00 am

Whoopi Goldberg: Rangel's 'Got to Go!'

I like Charlie Rangel, but I think now there is too much stuff to ignore. He’s got to go! And if he goes … can I have his health-care package?

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Mary Quite-Contrary

WOW…I am the first ‘civilian’ WoWer to post on this subject.

 Madame Speaker Pelosi NEEDED to address the Rangel mess months ago…but, apparently political pandering (with a willing to look the other way media) prohibited that…is Rangel ‘too big’ to fail?  Or just too well connected?

Maybe Nance can pow-wow with Harry Reid…and will the Pelosi can lament her having to deal with Rangel, Reid can school her on how he has ALSO OVERLOOKED the ‘wonky’ mortgage dealings of Chris Dodd and CountryWide. 

 Hmmmm…I see a pattern here…anyone else see it?  As millions of Americans LOSE THEIR HOMES (for what…tax troubles and mortgage issues)…well connected House and Senate Democrats skate on tax troubles and mortgages issues (with a wink and a nod from their Democratic leadership).

But the really, really BIG story in DC is Fox News is just sooo mean to the Administration. 

By Mary Quite-Contrary on 10/27/2009 5:58 am
deber B

Personally, I believe Nancy Pelosi has already been judged by the American people.   Her ratings are low but not because of Charlie Rangel.

Here’s the story according to WCBS TV, a New York CBS affiliate:

CBS 2 HD has learned of more alleged back-door dealings and political power peddling by Democratic Rep. Charles Rangel. The reigning member of Congress’ top tax committee is apparently "wrangling" other politicos to get him out of his own financial and tax troubles.

…Since ethics probes began last year the 79-year-old congressman has given campaign donations to 119 members of Congress, including three of the five Democrats on the House Ethics Committee who are charged with investigating him.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/weeklyupdate/2009/36-why-nancy-pelosi-protecting-charlie-rangel

Charlie Rangel lied and has been exposed.   This is a serious matter and I agree with Whoopi…"he has to go!"    The American people do not want people in the White House who are not vetted.   The czars are a good example.   Even though presidents before Obama had their czars it is today that we find it necessary to know the backgrounds of those in positions of power in the White House.

Nancy Pelosi, at times, is like a possessed woman tenacious and unyielding.   She also appears fraile at times.  For some reason, I never realized before how far left she swings.    Her ratings will more than likely improve once she deals with this scoundrel.    She needs to clean her house now!

By deber B on 10/27/2009 6:01 am
Susan Crawford

I believe in accountability. I spent eight long years feeling that the Bush administration needed to be accountable for many decisions and policies, and spoke out loud and often. Well, the pump is on the other foot, and I want it even more. At first, when the rumors started to trickle in, I felt it might be a small issue that could be handled in a way that Rangel could remain to do the generally fine job he has done for many years. But then the floodgates opened, and now it seems we have been inundated. For Pelosi to stonewall on this issue is shortsighted and just plain irresponsible. Were this a Republican, I know what would be happening, and to treat a Democratic colleague any differently is a bonehead move. Rangel has served with honor for many years, but he has issues now that must be addressed fully and openly. He should go. And Pelosi needs to follow up impartially and quickly. Otherwise she simply adds to a growing perception of her as a biased and difficult leader. We need her to be strong, decisive and even handed.

By Susan Crawford on 10/27/2009 7:56 am
C Hardy
I dont care what side of the political field either one of these are on - if he did wrong he needs to be held accountable for it and NP should also for not doing anything about it thus far.  Boo NP, Boo ON YOU!
By C Hardy on 10/27/2009 8:31 am
Belinda Joy

And THIS is why hypocrisy reigns supreme in the capital.

Speaker Pelosi should (if I were in her shoes) oust Rangel. His offense couple with the chair he holds is a toxic combination and sends the wrong signal to our nation.

However, Timothy Geitner who owed far more in back taxes than Rangel’s $10K is still operating as our head of Treasury. He is Secretary of Treasury - didn’t pay taxes for whatever reason it may be - and yet we are entrusting him to oversee ALL of our monies?

The hypocrisy of this abounds in my opinion. When Geitner passed the Senate Finance Committee and was appointed, the excuse was made that "if we deny everyone nominated for positions in the administration for tax issues, no one would pass" Well doesn’t that tell you something? Doesn’t that mean that people are behaving in a manner because they know they can get away with it without repercussions? Why not start holding their feet to the fire and (I know this is a radical thought) but call them on their actions?

And I don’t know if Rangel even knows what the WoW site is, but if he does and is reading this…..

I have heard what you have had to say as of late in this regard and you and I both know the card you are slowly pulling out of your vest. Put it back Rangel, you have no one to blame for this mess than yourself! Do not try to deflect culpability away from your actions by attempting to turn this into something it’s not. You know what I am talking about.

By Belinda Joy on 10/27/2009 8:49 am
Lauriate Roly

Scanning the latest threads this cool and rainy October day, in this neck of the woods, it appears quite evident to me that,> >“La Belinda Joy - est vraiment en bonne forme aujourd’hui“.<

(firing with both barrels).

By Lauriate Roly on 10/27/2009 11:21 am
Belinda Joy
Well Lauriate, at least I’m honest. You can always tell when I’m having a bad day. *Smile* Just a tad snippy…..
By Belinda Joy on 10/27/2009 6:10 pm
Sherrie Crews

I believe we need much more accountability and real consequences for all of the moral and legal misdeeds and ethics infractions of all of our legislators and government appointees no matter what party, branch of government or government agency with which they are affiliated.

I work in law enforcement and right now, even with the unemployment in this area in double digits, we’re having trouble filling some job openings because of the high legal, moral, and ethical standards to which we hold our applicants. I dare say that most of our congress and many in the White House and Justice Departments wouldn’t measure up to our standards of behavior.

We do complete background and financial investigations then back them up with a polygraph on everybody who is considered for a position here, whether it’s a law enforcement officer or records clerk. We all have to take the oath and nobody who isn’t up to the standards required by that oath is ever allowed to take it.

Isn’t it about time we started demanding the same for our elected and appointed government officials before they are allowed to run for office? That way maybe the government won’t have to spend so much time cleaning up their own backyards rather than keeping the American citizens from losing theirs. 

We won’t have the kind of complete waste of government funds that we had with all of the billions spent persecuting the Clintons for the non-existent White Water. We wouldn’t have all of the doubt that Faux News is trying to stir up about the new White Water (Acorn) and get this congress to spend billions investigating. Not to mention not having the embarrassment of having so many members of the "Family Values Party" caught with their pants down (literally).

By Sherrie Crews on 10/27/2009 9:46 am
Signing On

Sherrie, you have brought up a serious endemic of lying, conflict-of-interest, and ethics violations (different things but …) in our society that has dangerously impacted from the top, down!

MOST of our national "leaders" have no regard for the truth, much less a modicum of awareness that they are going to get caught because of the prevalence of sociopathy in their personalities they are attracted to politics. I have personally "caught" elected in bold-face lies after hearing them on C-SPAN myself, then receiving a letter, or reading a press release by one (and more) of them, stating the complete opposite of what they said, did, and knew and agreed to by VOTE. All to merely placate voters. Yet their behaviour is such that they really do not believe they will be CAUGHT.

And, at "ground level" trying to hire people is a full-time chore, from highly responsible positions, down to obtaining household help (no small matter, though). I recently learned that "running a criminal back-ground check" is not the only thing to look at, on record. What a shock that was. The honesty of most Americans is marginal, at best. Something herein was posted about checking out people who work in our homes - ABSOLUTELY! A police chief friend won’t even permit work crews in their home who do not have the "checks" performed, but also Bonded, and have SO reports run, as well. Smart man!

In re your other views, including the "Family Values Party," I totally agree. Now, I tend to stay away from anything that uses associated terms in resumes, speech, et al (christian, religious, faith, etc) because I’ve been so disappointed. I once let a contract to a ‘beyond faith" group and felt like I had been tossed into the Crimean war.

By Signing On on 10/27/2009 6:43 pm
Ruth M

Pelosi can’t remove him before the bipartisan House Ethics Committee finishes its investigation.  That would flout our bedrock American principle of innocence until proven guilty.

However, she can have him resign as chair of Ways and Means, and if she were a more powerful Speaker and a stronger person, she would have accomplished this already.

 

 

By Ruth M on 10/27/2009 10:40 am
Signing On

Right you are, Ruth - at least he should have been suspended during thiese hearings, IMHO. He could have had his voting rights maintained, but not his actvitites but same for 99% of "the others ones" too.

This is precisely what was mentioned last January - that by turning the head from those who have led our nation down a shameful path and not appointed a Special Prosecutor, these things will continue. And, they are!

By Signing On on 10/27/2009 6:46 pm
Barbara B
Belinda you are so right.  I’m out of work so my unemployment check gets sent to me in full plus I collect my social security check as well.  I break out in a cold sweat when I visit my tax guy because I know that I have to give IRS a nice chunk all at once.  But I never in all my 63 years not paid my taxes even during hard times.  This is why people do not trust government.  This is why government needs to stay out of our business because you do not know who to trust anymore.
By Barbara B on 10/27/2009 10:48 am
Beth Cornell
I would love to see the minority leader kick both Pelosi and Rangel out on their butts.
By Beth Cornell on 10/27/2009 10:52 am
Cathy Justice
I think there is too much to ignore, he needs to examined by his peers and kicked out if its warranted.
By Cathy Justice on 10/27/2009 11:47 am
E .

It is so disappointing when someone you grow to depend on for moral and ethical leadership turns out to be corrupt.  Just how wealthy is Rangel that he could have a bookeeping oversight to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars?  If we are to believe that he is capable of such an oversight could we even trust him to walk the dog on time?  Nevermind what Pelosi ought to do - Rangel needs to do the right thing for his nation, constituents, party, family and himself by gathering up his courage, stepping out into the light of truth and resign.

By E . on 10/27/2009 12:04 pm