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Question of the Day | 10/27/2009 4:00 am

Step into Nancy Pelosi's shoes for a moment: What should be done about Charles Rangel (D-NY)? What do you think will be done?

Mary Wells, Whoopi Goldberg, Liz Smith, Joan Ganz Cooney and Candice Bergen slip into Madame Speaker’s pumps for a few seconds and confront Charles Rangel …
Nancy Pelosi/ Charles Rangel

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Liz Smith

Liz Smith | 10/27/2009 12:00 am

Liz Smith on Charles Rangel: Nancy Pelosi's 'Lily'

If I were in Nancy Pelosi’s shoes I’d have acted long ago to treat Congressman Charles Rangel exactly the same way she’d have treated a Republican caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Let Rangel be examined and let him come clean. He has been a valuable Democratic representative for New York but that doesn’t cut any ice if he has done something wrong. I really don’t know what the outcome of this will be but he shouldn’t be treated differently from anyone else. I am a Democrat. But I don’t like the way Pelosi seems to have gilded this lily.
Joan Ganz Cooney

Joan Ganz Cooney | 10/27/2009 12:00 am

Joan Ganz Cooney: Will Public Opinion Weigh on Pelosi?

I have no idea of what all the political considerations are for Nancy Pelosi. She’ll probably do as little as she can get away with unless forced by public opinion to do otherwise.
Candice Bergen

Candice Bergen | 10/27/2009 12:00 am

Candice Bergen Refuses to Step Into Pelosi's Shoes

I would rather not put my feet in them. Thank you.
Mary Wells

Mary Wells | 10/27/2009 12:00 am

Mary Wells: Congressman Rangel – In Pelosi's Shadow?

I know a lot about shoes and some shoes are better quality than others. A lot of influential people will judge Nancy Pelosi’s shoes by how she walks Congressman Rangel through these coming months. He was overseeing U.S. Income Tax Code while not reporting his own income from a house he owned at a resort and from apartments he rented out – recently even more rental property was found that he did not report. I believe he has survived attempts to discipline him. I wonder why. If you failed to report income from rental property what do you think would happen to you? Whenever I see a picture of Nancy Pelosi I will think of her shoes – and Congressman Rangel.
Whoopi Goldberg

Whoopi Goldberg | 10/27/2009 12:00 am

Whoopi Goldberg: Rangel's 'Got to Go!'

I like Charlie Rangel, but I think now there is too much stuff to ignore. He’s got to go! And if he goes … can I have his health-care package?

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Bonnie O

Rangel should either step down or be ousted from his chairmanship of the powerful Ways & Means Committee.  He may be able to finagle a deal where he could resume his chairmanship if the Ethics Committee clears his name.  Doubtful, though, as it appears Rangel is guilty as sin.

As for his seat in Congress, that should be left to his constituents and I have no doubt that he will be re-elected.  It is doubtful if the Congressman will ever have to stand in the dock under a charge of tax evasion and face a jury of his peers.

As for Speaker Pelosi, she encapsulates the smarmy tactics used in Congress and against which Obama campaigned.

By Bonnie O on 10/27/2009 1:23 pm
phyllis Doyle Pepe
What a bloody shame. Why is it that people in high places with such ways and means end up in the gutter with the worst? Why do these people think they can finagle, lie, cover-up and deceive? Does power have such a power to corrupt? Trust is key, and when trust is broken, we all get jade eyed once again. Whether Democrat or Republican risky business is risky business and these people in Congress need to fly right and straighten up and stop thinking they are exempt from scrutiny. 
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 10/27/2009 4:33 pm
Signing On

It is that, Phyllis - but they are a pre-select group or they would not be in politics. I read somewhere that our nation’s represenatives and senators should be by "raffle" with each one of us responsible to serve if called and that we would not do any worse that those in office the past 9 years! At least "we’d ask, read the bills, committee reports, and try to learn … " and I agree. Right now, what we have are people who for the most part are marginally healthy mentally, love themselves (notice the "Ken" hairdos), and have a penchant for not only lying outright but defrauding our own nation as a Rite of Passage to them.

Bach there, someone mentioned paying her taxes because it was the law - that’s precisely what it is about. We obey because we are supposed to. The times I have go through a "yellow light" I am on alert for about 90 days thinking I’ll be pulled over!

It has to be genetic! Because people tend to move toward jobs, professions, etc. where they are more comfortable, or like the "group think." I can remember as a child when other kids were playing "hookie" and mentioned it, or talked about it later, I could not get it through my head how they could "do that" when our teachers required us to be in school - it was just not something I could understand, and I am not dense, or stupid if learning ability counts in this stuff.

Conversely, as a professional, I do know that when I have found myself in ‘marginal’ peer groups, or even slightly tempted to not perform within my own standards, I have run not walked away … fast! Therein lies a key to human behaviour … and I did not learn this from home - it’s been part of me from "day one."

That being said, there was a book mentioned on Wowowow - by a psychoanlyst couple about the Third Reich, so I got it - Death of a Jewish Science. Not being Jewish, I wondered so read it. Good heavens, it was a heavy read, but each line was to be savored. In fact, it reminded me of our nation, right now.

By Signing On on 10/27/2009 7:04 pm
Jay Gentile
Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and Rahm Emmanuel will cost President Obama a second term. It’s that simple. And if it happens, the Democrats will have no one to blame but themselves. But I won’t be part of the game anymore. I’ve already decided that I’ve had enough and will not vote for any incumbent in 2010 or 2012.
By Jay Gentile on 10/27/2009 5:00 pm
Signing On
I have done that the past 24 years, and was overjoyed when I heard about the NRA: Never Re-elect Anyone. We must have a legislative DRAFT from the populace.
By Signing On on 10/27/2009 7:06 pm
Belinda Joy
Joy, if the actions of Rumsfeld, Cheney, Gonzalez, Ashkroft and Chertoff could be overlooked , I assure you (as I have said before) President Obama and his administration could dine on puppies and kittens, wipe their mouths on the US Flag and they would STILL win over any Republican candidate!
By Belinda Joy on 10/27/2009 6:20 pm
Patricia Sprofera
Most of us may believe in personal accountability; most present day politicians don’t.  Nancy Pelosi and Charles Rangel are leaders of the non-believers. 
By Patricia Sprofera on 10/27/2009 6:32 pm
Signing On

My post disappeared, but … I agree with you. In re reality I loved this:

"The 3.3% profit margin reported by Morningstar includes the funds held in trust, but if adjusted to include only all costs of their legitimate business operations of producing and marketing their administrative services then their profit margin is actually 22.3%. That moves them into first place on the Fortune 500 list of profitable firms, in front of the network and communications equipment industry (20.4% profit)." ~ Don McCanne, M.D.

Even Morningstar is skewing public accounting standards, and still not helping Americans by permitting the insurance companies to "misguide" the public.

 

By Signing On on 10/27/2009 8:24 pm
Patricia Sprofera
Signing On - Thanks for your post and the information.  Welcome to wOw!  
By Patricia Sprofera on 10/28/2009 10:30 am
Lauriate Roly
Good for you Patty.  I think you’re right. LR
By Lauriate Roly on 10/27/2009 8:00 pm
Patricia Sprofera
Lauriate - Thank you for your post; I’m certainly in good company.  It’s always wonderful hearing from you.  Patty
By Patricia Sprofera on 10/28/2009 10:23 am
Signing On
By Signing On on 10/27/2009 8:21 pm
rocky rocky

Has the Ethics committee made its report yet on the Rangel accusations? And has it been made public? Y’all sound as if it has. Or have we already condemned the man without having even a modicum of facts?

Making inferences and jumping to conclusions, and then calling the results actionable "truth" has become an all too common activity in the last decade or so it seems. It just makes me shiver in my boots, as I wonder when the gleeful cries of ‘off with his head’ will be directed not only at the famous, but at the commonfolk as well … 

Be that as it may, it is taking a long time for the Ethics committee to come out with it already, don’t you think? I recently read they also are investigating Ensign (R-NV) for all that nefarious falderal about his mom and dad paying off his mistress and her husband — how long has that one gone on now? Been over a year, hasn’t it? 

By rocky rocky on 10/28/2009 12:17 am
Mr. Wow
He has to go. Yesterday.  Disgraceful.  He is a law-breaker, period. And while Ms. Pelosi is at it, she might consider getting rid of that god-awful collection of giant beads she often hangs off her neck.  Most distracting.  But the most distracting thing of all is Pelosi’s ineptitude in all matters. Also, she appear weak in her ineptitude. You gotta tough it up as a woman…anywhere!  Mrs. Clinton, you rock.  Even if you didn’t dodge any bullets in Bosnia.
By Mr. Wow on 10/28/2009 2:10 pm
rocky rocky
Well, good job, Mr Wow. That just about pushed all my buttons. See ya …
By rocky rocky on 10/28/2009 5:11 pm