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Question of the Day | 07/20/2009 11:00 pm

Obama's health-care plan: Are the 40 million uninsured the least of our problems? Is Obama starting at the wrong end?

Liz Smith, Joan Ganz Cooney and Candice Bergen reveal their views on the president’s approach to health-care reform.
© AP
Liz Smith

Liz Smith | 07/20/2009 11:00 pm

Why Obama's Health Care Plan Is Beyond Liz Smith

I am not criticizing or trying to even understand the health-care plan. I have a lot tied up in believing in Barack Obama and I voted for him because I want health care fixed, so let him fix it. If he is wrong or makes a mistake, then let him fix that or let someone else do it. This is beyond me, entirely beyond me. It makes my head hurt to have to have fixed opinions about such a complicated matter. It’s what we elect presidents for and I helped elect mine.
Joan Ganz Cooney

Joan Ganz Cooney | 07/20/2009 11:00 pm

Joan Ganz Cooney: How to Achieve an Effective Health-Care Plan

I don’t understand all the permutations of the health-care bill. What I do understand is that precious little is being proposed that would lower the cost of health care in America. We spend much more than other developed countries but with worse outcomes in terms of longevity and prevention and cures. Mayo Clinic, Cleveland Clinic and a number of first-class facilities operate at lower costs than the rest of the medical establishment with better outcomes. Which tells us that if we really mean to lower costs and have true reform, it will take patience and persistence on the part of the government and the American people. I’m not holding my breath.
Candice Bergen

Candice Bergen | 07/20/2009 11:00 pm

Candice Bergen Is Mindful About Health Care

Health care is too much for my tiny mind to grasp, but it has to be tackled and hopefully he is right and this is the place to start. My husband and I were talking about it last night and saying it is not too much for us to pay. It’s perfectly manageable and it must go through.

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Andrea Brandon
By Andrea Brandon on 07/22/2009 1:15 am
deber B
LOL, Andrea!  
By deber B on 07/22/2009 5:39 am
Suzanne Frazier

Since I’m at the "end" that is in need of health care reform.  I think he is starting at the "right end"..

There are many of us who have "pre-existing conditions" and the freedom to choose healthcare coverage is limited.  Many people can’t leave their present job because they have "pre-existing conditions" because they won’t qualify for other health care coverages.  I have "pre-existing conditions" and consequently, I can’t shop around for better health care coverage.  Fortuantely I have health care and the insurance coverage paid for my hospital stay during my heart attack.  However, my insurance coverage does not cover the medications I am taking to stay alive.  And, I have no options for looking for prescription insurance coverage because I have "pre-existing conditions".  Consequently, I pay $150 a month to take medications that have no generic options and the price is controlled the pharmaceutical companies.

So those of you against President Obama’s health care reforms are denying me the freedom to choose my health care coverage and to find a financial solution to an overbearing medication problem 

By Suzanne Frazier on 07/22/2009 9:32 am
STACY SEARS
Suzanne, do you honestly think that government controlled healthcare will be better? I sympathize with your struggle with medication costs.  However, if this goes through, it will end up limiting the types of care you may receive.  Many hail the systems of England and Canada.  Did you know that in England that your eligibility for dialysis ends at age 55?  At 55 are you useless to society?  Why did the Prime Minister of Canada come to the US to have heart surgery?  I have worked for US Government controlled health care.  It is sorely underfunded and care ends up being rationed.  While I very much agree that something needs to be done about this "pre-existing condition" business…turning the whole thing over to the federal government is not the way to go.
By STACY SEARS on 07/22/2009 8:51 pm
Suzanne Frazier

The US government has a wonderful health care insurance policy for their employees….all over the country…all over the world.  There are (I imagine ) at least a million people working for the US government in some capacity…(ie. the soldiers, air traffic controllers, governmental officials, politicians, FBI, CIA, judges….etc…..)  They have great health care insurance.  I think we all should be able to join…and then we could benefit from what is already in place.  

Regarding your fears that you won’t get the care you need.  I am already experiencing that situation.  I am not getting all the care that I need because I cannot afford it.  You have fears of not being able to receive the care.  I guess you can afford it at any cost.  You’re lucy.  I have fears that if I get sick again, I will go bankrupt.  I guess you don’t have those fears and that’s why you feel the way you do?

By Suzanne Frazier on 07/23/2009 7:58 am
STACY SEARS
Suzanne, have you personally been a patient in a government hospital? Have you personally received out-patient care from a government facility?  I both have been a patient and a provider.  When pregnant with my first child I ended up with pre-eclampsia.  I was told by the base mid-wife that I was dehydrated.  Fortunately, I was active duty for another branch of the Uniformed Services and relayed the situation to my medical director.  She pulled some strings and I was able to get appropriate care off-base.  If I had delivered on the base, there was no likelihood of an epidural or other basic, EXPECTED antepartem care.  I also ended up in a similar situation with my 2nd pregnancy.  Our facility had a pharmacy budget of $600,000 for a patient population of 20,000.  We were unable to provide much more than very basic care.  If the patient had Medicaid, Medicare or private insurance, we were able to obtain more intensive care for them. As far as medical bills go, I just got out of the hospital from a near fatal illness.  I, too, am struggling to figure out how I’m going to pay my portion of those bills.  It is still better than being dead, however, as my illness took 5 docs, several tests, 2 ER visits and a hospital stay to figure out.  I am a clinical pharmacist and I KNOW that I would be dead now if we had been under a government run program. I have worked in the system and been a patient in the system.  I know EXACTLY how it will work.  Trust me, you do not want this.
By STACY SEARS on 07/23/2009 1:15 pm
Suzanne Frazier
I have had experience with Walter Reed Hospital in Washington DC and they took care of our family.  I am sorry that you had such a difficult deliveries.
By Suzanne Frazier on 07/23/2009 6:49 pm
STACY SEARS
Walter Reed is an excellent facility, the exception to the rule.
By STACY SEARS on 07/23/2009 7:40 pm
Lee Ann Calhoun
My husband worked for the USDA for 33 years and yes we had, for the most part, great health care.  It is not Govt. insurance however.  Because the govt. is large they can negotiate better deals for their employees, just like large companies, large school districts, states for their employees, but they negotiate with several companies usually.  We had choices between PPO’s, HMO’s, and others.  Everytime we moved, and we did several times, we had to pick another plan that was covered in that state, but we were guaranteed insurance, pre-existing conditions or not!  That is the best part as we are both cancer survivors and are under 65, so still don’t qualify for medicare.  Now that we are retired, I pay a lot of attention to what we pay - our share - for health care.  It has increased since 2004 from $2100 to $4800 in 2008 - same insurance, higher co-pays, more for specialists and prescriptions!  It doesn’t matter if you are on the "govt. plan" or not, you will see increases that are way out of line.  I think that we have to agree that something has to be done and if we could rely on the insurance companies to police or regulate themselves and come up with someway to make the system smoother and better, then the govt. wouldn’t be getting involved.  The banks screwed up, so the govt. got involved - etc.  Do we like govt. regulations?  NO, but lets be realistic, those that have will take advantage of those who don’t have, that seems to be human nature - unfortunately. The next thing I hear is "who says we are entitled to health insuracne"?  Well, who says we are entitled to health care?  We all assume we are entitled to health care, and I feel we are, so if you clog up the system by going to the emergency room for all your illnesses, and you can’t pay, then you are causing the rest of us to pay more.  If everyone had some sort of insurance, then that would be a big savings to those of us who have had insurance all along.  I can’t imagine not having insurance - it scares me silly.  Let’s just pray congress can come up with something  - we need something!
By Lee Ann Calhoun on 08/17/2009 6:17 pm
Marjorie C.

Andrea:  This link pretty much covers my opinion of ObamaCare…

Funny, but it pretty much sums it up. 

What bothers so many people is the rush to get this bill, any bill, passed.  The Republicans in Congress represent about 40% of the American voters, yet they are not being allowed much if any input.  Everyone needs time to read the bill, understand it and discuss it.  No early morning amendments behind closed doors should be allowed.

Why can’t every American be at the table on this?  After all, every American is going to be affected, and I certainly don’t trust the Democrats to do the right thing by all of us.         

By Marjorie C. on 07/22/2009 6:05 am
deber B

Marjorie, even President Obama is not familiar with all of the provisions in the bill.   Geez….this is a prime of example of "Are we there yet?   Are we there yet?   Are we there yet?"    

Obama surrounded himself with attornies once he got into the White House.   The legal jargon in the bill is meant to confuse people and no doubt provide loopholes.   Page 16 is only one example so far.

Come on, Obama, give us a well thought out plan from what you have learned by fixing medicare, put it in language we all understand and then step back and enjoy the applause.   

 

By deber B on 07/22/2009 7:01 am
Irish Eyes NY

Hi deber: Go to: freeourhealthcarenow.com and sign the petition.

This whole program should be thought out not rushed in to.

By Irish Eyes NY on 07/22/2009 8:25 am
Patricia Sprofera
Irish Eyes NY - Thank you for the web site information.  I signed the petition, as did 616,055 petitioners, before me.  Patty
By Patricia Sprofera on 07/22/2009 10:57 am
Baby  Snooks
One of the best reasons not to rush into reform is the mess that Medicare/Medicaid has become but unfortunately we have a Congress that rushes into everything based on what political consultants tell the members is
good or bad" for them politically. They are usually running for re-election more than they are running the country. And as a result of late they seem intent on running the country completely into the ground. 
By Baby Snooks on 07/22/2009 11:02 am
STACY SEARS
Deber, I had the priviledge of hearing Bob McEwen speak this past Friday night.  According to his sources, this healthcare bill contains a provision that allows us to keep our current health care coverage if we like it, BUT it also states that the insurance companies may not accept any new patients…so guess what?  The health insurance companies will go under and we’ll all end up with government controlled care whether we want it or not.  Pretty scary, huh.
By STACY SEARS on 07/22/2009 8:56 pm