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Samantha Orobator, Laura Ling, Euna Lee | 08/07/2009 9:05 am

Pregnant Drug Trafficker Samantha Orobator Escaped Death Penalty in Laos, Will Be Punished in U.K.

Twenty-year-old’s case got worldwide attention after she got pregnant in jail and only escaped the firing squad because she was with child; Laura Ling’s sister says she and Euna Lee crossed into North Korea.
By The Staff at wowOwow.com
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British mom-to-be Samantha Orobator was originally sentenced to death in Laos for drug trafficking. But now she’s back at home in the U.K. and hoping for a much lighter sentence. Meanwhile, we’re hearing a little bit more about what happened when American journalists Laura Ling and Euna Lee were detained in North Korea.

In the U.K., Orobator said she was "enormously relieved and happy to be back on British soil" after "an unimaginable nightmare," reports the BBC.

The 20-year-old from South London was caught with 1.5 pounds of heroin at Wattay Airport in the capital, Vientiane, in Southeast Asia a year ago. She only escaped the death penalty — death by firing squad — because she became pregnant in jail, although she won’t say who the father is, and says it isn’t a prison guard. A government-run Lao newspaper said she impregnated herself in the women-only wing of the prison with sperm from another prisoner. She ended up with life in prison. Her case garnered international attention because her "condition" was a factor in her sentencing, and her mom pleaded for her release. She was turned over to U.K. officials as a "humanitarian gesture" by Lao authorities. 

But it’s not as if Orobator’s going somewhere cozy. She was taken to Holloway prison in London, and the British court system will decide her fate. She is due to give birth next month. Her case has raised many questions about capital punishment for pregnant women, particularly in countries that aren’t hesitant to punish someone with death.

Meanwhile, we were cheered this week at the news that former President Bill Clinton was able to secure the release of journalists Ling and Lee from North Korea, where they had been detained since March and sentenced to 12 years in a hard labor camp for "hostile" acts. Border guards said the women illegally crossed into North Korea from China. The two women are now back at home in California. Ling’s sister, former "View" co-host Lisa Ling, said her sister told her family the two actually did cross the border "very briefly," and that Laura Ling intends to fully tell her story, perhaps in an editorial.

"It was something that they were never planning to do originally," Lisa Ling told CNN. "I mean, I said this before, when they left U.S. soil, they never intended to cross into North Korea. She said it was maybe 30 seconds. And then, you know, everything just sort of got chaotic."

We’re so glad Ling and Lee are back at home with their families. We can’t wait to hear more of their story.

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F P
I am constantly amazed at the stupidity of people who go to foreign countries, buy or mule dope, and expect to be untouched by the laws of those countries.
By F P on 08/07/2009 9:13 am
Maggie W

I can’t imagine why they would have passed that border for " only 30 seconds".  What would be the point in that?  I’ll look forward to Laura Ling’s story and explanation.  She’ll probably be on more than one talk show.  Should be quite interesting.

So, another young person, only 20, thought she too would be invincible in a foreign country.  I’m glad she escaped the death penalty, but she behaved stupidly and does deserve punishment.

By Maggie W on 08/07/2009 9:35 am
DeBúrca obj
"Ling’s sister, former "View" co-host Lisa Ling, said her sister told her family the two actually did cross the border "very briefly," and that Laura Ling intends to fully tell her story, perhaps in an editorial."….. if they purposefully did cross the border, they should be ashamed of the position they put this country in and they should apologize to the president and the American people, let alone their own families. They certainly should not get a book deal out of it either.
By DeBúrca obj on 08/07/2009 9:44 am
Irish Eyes NY
Now here’s rarity: Deburca I agree with you!
By Irish Eyes NY on 08/07/2009 12:37 pm
Andrea Brandon

Yep. Definitely a rarity from my end, too, to agree with Deburca.

I particularly want to hear about whatever it was that was so compelling that made her young daughter so that she could go to a dangerous area. 

By Andrea Brandon on 08/07/2009 10:34 pm
C jay

I’d still be imprisoned! This really hacked me - their story, let alone deliberately violating another nation’s borders. In the US all we see and hear (new and Internet) is about those damned foreigners who sneak across our border, and what we should do to them, but when another nation takes charge, we issue holy Hades on them, and send in our most powerful negotiators. I hope their families are prepared to pay for the travel costs, at least.

 

By C jay on 08/09/2009 10:04 pm
Lucinda Herbert

De B,

I thought they were doing a story on the trafficking of women.  If they did deliberately cross the border, I agree with you.  It just amazes me how many people actually believe they don’t have to abide by the laws of a country where they happen to be a guest — and then expect the US to swoop down and extricate them from their difficulties. 

When it comes to the young English woman, she certainly was resourceful — how on earth did she ever become pregnant in prison?  Now there’s a story!  She, however, also sounds like another foolish young person, who didn’t think the rules/laws applied to her.  Somehow she was never taught that there are consequences for one’s actions — no, you can’t just go and hit the reset button every time you make a "mistake"!  

By Lucinda Herbert on 08/07/2009 2:11 pm
A D
Hey, if you go abroad, you are subject to foreign laws.  If you don’t want to face their punishments, either behave yourself or don’t go. 
By A D on 08/07/2009 9:51 am
Kristy B

I think that both of these stories are very telling.  People need to always abide by another country’s laws! 

I’m so disappointed that those women purposefully crossed into North Korea.  What were they thinking?  They shouldn’t be surprised if this changes people’s opinions of the situation!

By Kristy B on 08/07/2009 10:42 am
DeBúrca obj
It doesn’t change my opinion as far as thinking the Obama administration, all involved behind the scenes and Bill Clinton, handled this delicate situation extremely well and that the return of these women is a great outcome. The US government cannot sit back and let people rot in foreign prisons for overblown charges such as spying. However, it most certainly does change my mind about the two women involved and I do believe they should be held accountable for purposefully crossing the border, if that turns out to be the case.
By DeBúrca obj on 08/08/2009 3:32 pm
Deena B.

I feel sorry for Samantha Orobator’s baby.  What a way to be brought into the world - regardless of the specifics.  I would certainly not wish death on Orobator but she did bring her problems upon herself.

And, while I would not necessarily call Ling and Lee’s actions "hostile", I don’t buy the "30 seconds" story either.  I agree with DeBurca.  They owe a lot of people apologies and should not benefit from their experience in any way.

By Deena B. on 08/07/2009 2:17 pm
Chris Glass`

In my late teens an older man who said he liked parties and young people in his life offered me a series of "free" trips. He explained that there was no catch. Coming home he would like us to bring a few things through customs for his dear mother. I suspected drugs and declined. I heard later that a few of the kids who took up his offer were detained in jail. Samantha Orobator had to know she was a drug mule and what the consequences might be. Certainly she knew that pregnancy would prevent her death. I am glad that her family managed to get her back to the UK but I don’t think she should be able to walk free. She needs time to realize that her actions caused grief not just to her but also to her family and child-to-be.

I understand the quest to cover a story by Laura Ling and Euna Lee. If they really never intended to cross the border they should not have been so close to it. As an Army brat I lived overseas for three different tours of duty. We were told there were no exceptions if we managed to get ourselves in trouble. We would be subject to the laws of the country we were visiting. As journalists Lee and Ling had to have known the same thing. In crossing to North Korea they became more than political prisoners they became economic pawns. While I applaud their efforts in trying to get their story they should have looked at the big picture before the initial crossing.

By Chris Glass` on 08/07/2009 6:39 pm
Andrea Brandon

Chris,

I completely agree with you. One wonders if youthful ignorance or the belief that they were invincible entered the picture.  Pretty stupid, especially given a young child at home.

By Andrea Brandon on 08/07/2009 10:38 pm
C jay

One day, in Paris, I had the wrong ticket for the Metro, so mine kept shooting back to me, while my friends were waiting on the other side of the turn-style. I asked them to buy me tickets - correct ones (I’d spent the prior day at La Defense so had that "outer" area ticket). They kept telling me to "jump over it," and other such nonsense, but I would not do that in the U.S. so certainly not in another country.

Eventually, a kindly Parisian came up behind me, and removed my ticket from my numb fingers, put one in and the turn-style rotated. Thanking him profusely, we chatted at bit, acknowledging my travel friends bad advice, when all of a sudden 3 young men vaulted over the turn-styles next to us.

WHAMMO! They were summarily nabbed by the police, and carted off. I’m sure they were watching me as my immature friends urged me on (one has traveled all over the world and should have known better). It goes to show - just don’t! Behave yourselves when visiting any place, period!  Each country has a time period before which they must report our presence as violating their laws to the U.S.

Besides, we had a friend working in the American Embassy there, and certainly did not want to interrup her job to hear that I was arrested!

 

By C jay on 08/09/2009 10:13 pm