Al Franken! That’s all we needed, another clown in the U.S. Senate.

Sadly, the misinformation keeps coming…..

For the misinformed who want to blame Obama for the TARP "bailout"- preposterously done as a favor to him by President Bush- please note the timeline: October, 2008 ONE MONTH BEFORE THE ELECTION- so the "favor" that extended benefits initially intended to back up banks and later to the auto industry has already been recorded as a tactic to avoid having the collapse of the banking industry AND General Motors on his watch. 

As far as these unemployment figures- (don’t you ever feel betrayed by your "sources" when simple due dilligence would avoid these embarassments?) please for God’s sake absorb this—-unemployment statistics began rising from January 2001- into the year that brought us 54 intentionally disregarded security memos that would have avoided the September 11th sacrifice of innocents for the sake of creating a "Pearl Harbor" for the neo-cons grand planning for a New World Order- and following the temporary economic crisis led into the longest "jobless" recovery in our history.  Facts for those who care:    

Fact #1:  On October 14, 2008, Secretary of the Treasury Paulson and President Bush separately announced revisions in the TARP program. (Wikipedia)

and Fact #2:

On Friday, January 9, 2009, the Bureau of Labor Statistics released the unemployment figures for December 2008. As anticipated, the situation had continued to deteriorate. The unemployment rate for the total labor force was 7.2 percent, up from 6.8 percent in November

Data are from U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, Employment Situation: December 2008, available at http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm; Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey, available at http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/outside.jsp?survey=ln; and Employment and Earnings, January 2008, available at http://www.bls.gov/opub/ee/empearn200801.pdf.

UNEMPLOYMENT RATE
Then: 4.2% (Bureau of Labor Statistics, January 2001)
Now: 6.7% (Bureau of Labor Statistics, November 2008)

DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE
Then: 10,587 (close of Friday, Jan. 19, 2001)
Now: 9,015 (close of Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2009)

 

it doesn’t surprise me a bit—there was a reason i cried on election day—and as we’re seeing—elections do have consequences. so far, he gets an f- in my book..this administration is a joke

***copy of my [reply] post to: Kelly In Texas

Kelly,

My apology to [you] any poster who interpreted my previous post as you did when you replied that, "Maizie…you do not give the sources cited here any credence, and you consider ALL posting merely opinion."  

I regret thay my wording was such that you misunderstood the point I attempted to make.  And, I surely do not consider all posting here on wOw as ‘merely opinion’.  

Kelly, you went on to comment that my views are ‘shortsighted’.  Perhaps.  But, my assumption has always been that the women and men who post here on wOw are highly educated, and all have their favorite reference sources for accessing national, international, and personal information that they find useful, educational, and enlightening.   For this reason it is by choice that I attempt to avoid posting lengthy researched discussions [diatribes] in an attempt to persuade, badger, or insult other posters who may or may not agree with me, primarily because of how the format [my interpretation] of this site was originally designed.

I discovered wOw a few weeks after this site was launched when I saw the founders on the PBS talk show, CHARLIE ROSE.   What struck me most as I listened to these remarkable women discuss their goals/objective for this website was their emphasis on the word "conversations".  They explained that wOw as designed primarily where women/men could come and share conversation through comments and opinions on any topic.  There was never any suggestion that wOw was intended for straightforward news journalism.  But rather, it would be a forum where women/men over forty would voice their various points of views.  And, of course, the rest is ‘history’.   Since then, this site has certainly evolved into more than the founders envisioned/imagined.  And, I certainly have learned a lot here through the information that posters share.  Yet, when I ‘pop in’ on wOw to post, it is my opinion, I share rather than documented researched information to persuade.

Respective to your incendiary comments about Obama, you are entitled to your opinion.  Frankly, I’ve chosen to reserve my thoughts about Obama because my opinions are too far sweeping - ultra conservative to far left - depending on the specific issue. 

Finally, I always strive to become more well read.  But again Kelly, although I’ve amassed many new resources for books and news articles here on wOw, this is not the place I come expand my knowledge.  Thankfully, there is BARNES&NOBLE or BORDERS, where I can purchase the best selections suggested by NYTIMES, and many other sources for the purpose of educational enlightenment.

Have a great weekend!

By Maizie James on 07/17/2009 5:13 pm

Seriously, how many times has this question been asked?

Well spoken Maize James. What you are saying is so true, this site is not a college classroom, it is a forum. Facts are great to have but not the point I would think. Everyone talking about far right or far left, what about those of us in the middle? I want to own a fire arm and have the right to get an abortion, I want my rights that were granted to me in the constitution, but I don’t want religion"anyones religion" determining what rights I’m entitled to. I voted democratic and republican in the last big elections. So let me say in my opinion Obama inherited a mess when he became our president I think he is trying to fix the mess, we will all see in the future how good of a job he does. When I was in college my poli-sci professor said the first term of a president in office is either spent fixing or destroying the former presidents choices, and if a president gets a second term that is when you see their agenda and decissions come into play. So I will wait and see the outcome, and I hope it will be great, because I am unwillingly, unlike so many others to hope America  fails in order to be RIGHT. I’d rather be wrong and have my country flourish.

I’m so disappointed. I joined this site thinking I had found a group of intelligent women to discourse with.  It’s the same old flapping and flappin on here as elsewhere - filled with women who have nothing better to do that repeat themselves over and over again and who need somewhere to post their opinions without true dialogue. It’s not that I can’t take opinions that differ than mine, it’s that this dialogue seems to be mostly filled with people who just need a soapbox to shout out their rhetoric - filled with propaganda, half-truths and ignorance. I’m thinking I won’t be back. 

As to the pot smoker’s wife, I think her husband should see a doctor.  MANY pot smokers are self medicating, usually for either anxiety or depression.  Since it sounds like he isn’t smoking for "fun" (i.e. at parties), and that he also has weight issues, most likely, I would guess he suffers from either anxiety or depression.  A doctor could prescribe legal anti-anxiety or anti-depressants, although, a word of caution, many of those have sexual side effects which may kill or affect his sex drive (of which, so far the only drug that can alter that is pot, ironic huh?).