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Politics | 05/31/2009 11:00 pm

Pro-Life Feminism Births a Great – and Inexhaustible – Debate

The rise of ‘pro-life feminism’ raises endless questions on the real meaning of the F word.
By Andrew Belonsky
© Getty Images

Like Giroux, Dannenfelser also bristles over use of the F word. When asked whether she describes herself as a feminist, Dannenfelser replied, “Yeah, I do – depending on whom I’m talking to because some people take it the wrong way.” And, as should be apparent, not everyone views feminism in quite the same light.

Marsh characterizes feminism as “insuring that every woman has the God-given civil rights that we were born with, to be totally free to envision her life as she wants without restriction, except by law … and the Golden Rule.” Carrie Lukas of the more conservative-minded Independent Women’s Forum, seems to have a similar definition and describes feminism “as the belief that women are men’s equals – the ideal that women should have the same opportunities, responsibilities and protections as men.”

That said Lukas prefers what she calls “free market feminism,” which “recognizes that government isn’t always the best way to eradicate sexism and in fact can make the problem worse.” What has been called “feminism,” she claims, “is really less about equality and more about expanding government.”

“Embracing everything feminist is what feminism is to me”

There can be little consensus about feminism, its origins and its mission. Nor, with the ever-expanding spectrum, does it seem there can ever be one true definition of “feminism.” But that raises perhaps the most important question: Does there need to be a “true” definition of the F word? Though Dannenfelser realizes people will disagree with her maternal approach, this annular remark speaks volumes about the ongoing debate, “To be a feminist, to love being a feminist, embracing everything feminist is what feminism is to me.” Clearly there’s no authoritative brand of “feminism,” just as there’s no one brand of woman.

[Editor’s Note: It’s worth noting that another pro-life feminist group, Feminists4Life, did not reply to repeated calls for comment, nor did the pro-choice National Organization for Women, Planned Parenthood or NARAL Pro-Choice America.]

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Patty E

""""Dannenfelser, who grew up Episcopalian and points out that she was once pro-choice, insists she’s turned off by the violence inherent in abortion""""""

I wonder what these women feel and think about murdering Dr. Tiller—that was OK?    

 

By Patty E on 06/01/2009 12:26 am
DeBúrca obj
Exactly! The murder of Dr. Tiller is terrorism, home grown and right wing. 
By DeBúrca obj on 06/01/2009 9:41 am
Kelly In Texas

How typical…dragging an indefensible murder into this thread.

I happen to agree with "these women" on a number of points. Instead of throwing in an unrelated murder, try dealing with their opinions…..

By Kelly In Texas on 06/01/2009 5:43 pm
Patty E
and your point?……..
By Patty E on 06/01/2009 5:48 pm
frances roehm
Dr. Tiller was murdered today. Does anyone care? Who are these men with their Second Ammendment gun rights have the right to decide the legitimacy of a woman’s right to choose when she will give birth? Does any one here get the perversion of human decency and fundamentalist religion that caused Dr. Tiller’s death? 
By frances roehm on 06/01/2009 12:29 am
S G
Yes frances I care. I also care that the religious terrorist such as Randall Terry and Bill Oreily are aloud to run amuck. Freedom of speech is one thing however inciting violence is another. I would like Dr. Tillers family to sue O reily on the grounds if found this man watched his hate speeches it helped incite him to murder. I think it is time we put these people behind bars for their crimes.Maybe its time for bill’s judgement day.
By S G on 06/01/2009 7:21 am
DeBúrca obj

Hendricks: Tiller’s killers were many

excerpt: "However, the motive for the crime we can all surmise in light of the vitriolic  campaign that has been waged against Tiller for more than two decades by anti-abortion groups.

And if we’re right about that, then we already know the identities of his accomplices.

They include every one who has ever called Tiller’s late term abortion clinic a murder mill.

Who ever called Tiller "Tiller the Killer."

The groups who spent decades fomenting hate toward a man who simply believed that he was serving a purpose by being one of the few doctors in the country performing late-term abortions.

Hate. Not heated opposition. Not strong disagreement.

But blind hatred.

The kind of hate that would prompt some maniac to take a  gun into a church and shoot a man to death in front of friends and family.

His accomplices know they have blood on their hands, which might explain why they were quick to issue statements today expressing disapproval of Tiller’s murder.

Among them, the anti-abortion group Operation Rescue.

"Operation Rescue denounces the killing of abortionist Tiller," read the headline of a new release posted on that group’s website.

  Those words  drip with hypocrisy.

  After all, it was Operation Rescue that coined the nickname "Tiller the Killer." It was Operation Rescue that was most responsible for ratcheting up the heated rhetoric toward Tiller over the past two decades.

   The group issued the following statement today:

   "We are shocked at this morning’s disturbing news that Mr. Tiller was gunned down. Operation Rescue has worked for years through peaceful, legal means, and through the proper channels to see him brought to justice. We denounce vigilantism and the cowardly act that took place this morning. We pray for Mr. Tiller’s family that they will find comfort and healing that can only be found in Jesus Christ."

Shocked? Are any of us really shocked that it would come to this after the many years of demonizing one man?

I’d suggest that if anyone is in need of salvation right now it’s the  anti-abortion movement in Kansas and across the nation.

As Terry’s statement makes clear, the same bullet that killed George Tiller also shattered the moral underpinnings of the movement that inspired its firing."

By DeBúrca obj on 06/01/2009 10:08 am
DeBúrca obj
Btw… in a very telling move, Operation Rescue has REMOVED their Tiller Watch website today.
By DeBúrca obj on 06/01/2009 10:10 am
James the Game
It’s a world full of crazies, eh, DeB’?
By James the Game on 06/01/2009 11:21 am
HA BIBI

"The kind of hate that would prompt some maniac to take a  gun into a church and shoot a man to death in front of friends and family."

 

Sounds like the same maniac that went into many wombs to take those lives out of there and right in front of God, the Mother and all other onlookers……WoW, the simularities………Astounding!

By HA BIBI on 06/01/2009 10:19 am
DeBúrca obj
Elaine you are the perfect example of why folks like Bill O’Reilly need to be held accountable for their hate speech. There are lots of mentally disturbed people out there listening to it, believing it, and performing such acts themselves, like the guy who shot this doctor, or, like you here, encouraging such terrorist acts by others.
By DeBúrca obj on 06/01/2009 10:24 am
HA BIBI
Damn! Where are they when we need them………It’s a shame they wait so long to clean house, LOL. I don’t sign them up for the race, but when they cross the finish line, I’ll admit, I clap a little……….
By HA BIBI on 06/01/2009 10:41 am
C Hardy
E…do we have proof that Dr. Tiller performed late term abortions on babies that would not have survived outside of the womb? I mean would you rather see babies born knowing they would die shortly after?  I am sure those abortions made were made with a heavy heart by the Mother and Dr. Tiller.  I am not one for abortion but I wont say that what he was doing was wrong b/c there is no proof he was performing late term abortions as birth control.
By C Hardy on 06/01/2009 1:29 pm
Libra Lady
Tiller made the case for infanticide by showing graphic photos of unborn babies with abnormalities. He admits on tape to having aborted babies a day before the mother’s due date. One murdered baby in Tiller’s photo collage was a child with three arms. I asked, “Why didn’t the mother carry the baby to term and consider corrective surgery after he was born? A baby with an extra arm isn’t worthy of life?”
By Libra Lady on 06/01/2009 1:59 pm
C Hardy

LL…we dont know what the state of mind the parents were in when making the choice to abort the baby with 3 arms, maybe having one of the arms wasnt able to fix?  Whatever the case may be, wether we like it or not, that is not our choice.  It sucks that some would take the easy road then to live with a challenged child, but that is their choice.  Personally I would only abort if my life was at stake or my child would not live outside the womb…alot of these birth defects and life threatening (sp) can’t be detected until late and it is truly very sad. 

Lets not assume this Dr was bad b/c of the job he did, we could assume that about our Military and Law Enforcement also…

By C Hardy on 06/01/2009 2:27 pm