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A Friend Stopped By | 05/29/2009 12:00 am

Does Prop 8 Decision Prove 'California Supreme Court Lost Its Way'?

Brenda Feigen is outraged at the ease with which the California Constitution can be amended to take rights away.
By Brenda Feigen

Editor’s Note: Brenda Feigen is counsel to Kenoff & Machtinger, LLP, where she practices anti-discrimination and entertainment law. A graduate of Harvard Law School, she co-founded Ms. Magazine with Gloria Steinem and directed with (now Justice) Ruth Bader Ginsburg the Women’s Rights Project of the ACLU. Her memoir, Not One of the Boys: Living Life as a Feminist, was published by Alfred A. Knopf in 2000. She moved from Manhattan to Los Angeles to produce her first feature film and currently lives there with Joanne Parrent, her longtime partner and spouse. 

It’s been a while since I’ve mouthed off about same-sex marriage in California. Joanne and I even got married since (in July), as did 17,999 other same-sex couples after the state’s Supreme Court in May made gay marriage legal, but before the prohibitive Proposition 8 went into effect on November 5. I’m back to the subject, however, because that same Supreme Court’s ruling this week actually blew my mind.

After declaring last year that gays and lesbians are a protected (“suspect”) class who could not be denied the right to marry, we are now told that we can be denied that right because the majority of voters who voted in November didn’t think we were entitled to that “fundamental” (as the court put it last year) right. Even the word “married” was hitherto important to Chief Justice Ronald George and having to call ourselves “domestic partners” just wasn’t as good, let alone fair. However, this week, again writing for the 6 - 1 majority, he rationalized that it was OK for us to be called “domestic partners.” We carve out, as Chief Justice George put it, "a limited exception (note: now he calls it "limited"!) by reserving the official designation of the term “marriage” for the union of opposite-sex couples, but leaving undisturbed all of the other aspects of a same-sex couple’s constitutional rights to establish an officially recognized and protected family relationship and to the equal protection of the laws.”

WHAT!!! Does that make any sense, especially when held up against the very same court’s previous ruling? Absolutely not. Not only that, but all the chatter about “amendment” vs. “revision” could have made most people totally confused. An amendment is OK for the people to vote up or down but a revision, which the Supreme majority stated, means a "wholesale or fundamental alteration of the constitutional structure that appropriately could be undertaken only by a constitutional convention." Which was it? Justice Moreno in his lonely dissent was clear: "Requiring discrimination against a minority group on the basis of a suspect classification (which the court held applies to gays and lesbians last year) strikes at the core of the promise of equality that underlies our California Constitution and thus ‘represents such a drastic and far-reaching change in the nature and operation of our governmental structure that it must be considered a "revision" of the state Constitution rather than a mere  "amendment" thereof.’ "

Honestly, the amendment/revision debate, though unfortunately the only way to challenge Prop 8 (in state court), seemed like an analysis of how many angels really do a jig on the top of a pin. It wasn’t the issue; it was about trying to find a way to get at the issue and the way just wasn’t there. It was a thicket in a dense forest of crappy old trees that is the California initiative system. It just doesn’t work for the state that is the world’s fifth largest economy — and has a whole huge bunch of citizens trying to live side by side in it — to allow the voters to make the laws. Direct democracy doesn’t work, we learned in grade school; that’s the reason we have a federal system of government, the reason we have courts and a legislative branch.

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C Hardy

Why Kate?  Why should marriage be rederved for that union between a man and woman?  Why?  Who are you or any else to tell anyone in Love that they cant marry?  So you would rather see gay men marry gay women and live seperate lives?  That is fake…or would you rather be able to see them marry who they love and live happy lives without having to hide in the closets? 

Just b/c you may not understand gays doesnt mean they shouldnt have rights…or if you think its "gross" to see two men or two women holding hands in public is gross or wrong does not give anyone the right to tell them they can’t live that way. 

By C Hardy on 05/29/2009 10:48 am
Barbara
C Hardy - Well said.  I’m not gay but I do not know why people are opposed to same sex marriage.  Stop judging others and let them live their lives, create their own unions, support their families.  I feel like the Taliban is here trying to make rules.
By Barbara on 05/29/2009 2:01 pm
Lady Gator
Kate McCloud — I agree - hurray for California.  Hurray for the other states that defeated same sex marriage.  There are only 4 states that voted FOR
By Lady Gator on 05/29/2009 1:39 pm
Amanda C

and if the people voted to murder a 1 year old child?

would that be OK since it was the majority?

By Amanda C on 05/29/2009 3:46 pm
Kathleen Oliver
Infants which by the age of one are determined to be irretrievably retarded or dysfunctional should be euthanized so that they will not be any further burden to society.  Provided the majority agrees [ http://www.wowowow.com/cl/305291 ], what basis could there possibly be for stopping this?
By Kathleen Oliver on 05/30/2009 11:54 am
Lady Gator
What has your question to do with "same sex marriage" ?  If that appears on another thread I would be glad to answer your question. 
By Lady Gator on 05/30/2009 2:32 pm
Kathleen Oliver
Perhaps I have misunderstood, but I believe (as is discussed under the link which I supplied above) that M Jung’s post has to do with everything ( including same-sex marriage and equal protection under the law [ http://www.wowowow.com/cl/259515 ] ) being up for grabs and up for a vote within a mobocracy.
By Kathleen Oliver on 05/30/2009 9:30 pm
Amanda C
thank you kathleen!
By Amanda C on 06/02/2009 12:34 pm
Kathleen Oliver
My pleasure!
Your observation suggests a couple of questions which I wish we would all spend some time considering.

1)  Is there - in principle - any difference between telling some group that they may not marry and (on the other hand) telling some group that they may not vote, or that they may not have equal access to housing, education and employment, or that they may not have their own choice of religion?

2)  If we thought it through in advance, are these the kinds of matters (together with separation of church & state generally) which we would want to make eligible FOR a majority vote, or would we prefer to protect such things FROM a majority vote?
By Kathleen Oliver on 06/02/2009 2:29 pm
Amanda C

my question has to do with "majority rules".

people who are against equal marriage rights commonly say "well the people voted, so that’s that!"

and i was simply asking, would it also be OK if the majority voted to murder a 1 year old child? would that be OK since the majority ruled?

my comment was simply to show that the  "majority rules" stance is simply stupid and unconstitutional.

By Amanda C on 06/01/2009 4:28 pm
Andrea Brandon
And how very sad for all those who have been discriminated against in this bigoted proposition.
By Andrea Brandon on 05/30/2009 10:14 pm
Kelly In Texas

Kate…Ca. of all states! That drives them crazy…

Many Americans would support civil unions with rights associated…but "marriage" is…and has always been between a male and a female. I feel that many in the gay community want to be seen as "just like heterosexuals" and nothing short of usurping the rights to traditional marriage will do it for them.

Many use "human rights" as an excuse…for some, it is all about forcing heterosexuals to give up the stature of being "man and woman" as the norm. It is about 1 % of the population validating their "normalcy".

Instead, they should work to validate their difference….complete with their own form of domestic unions.

 

By Kelly In Texas on 05/31/2009 2:48 pm
JeJe De
My understanding is that the CA Supreme Court answered the question, do the people have a right to vote on changes in the constitution?  They said yes.  I do not think they were answereing the question about gay marriage because it was not what they were asked to rule on.  Right? or Wrong?
By JeJe De on 05/29/2009 9:05 am
Amanda C
wrong. the constitution is there for a reason - to protect people from tyrannies!
By Amanda C on 05/29/2009 3:46 pm
Kathleen Oliver
I do not think they were answering the question about gay marriage because it was not what they were asked to rule on.  Right? or Wrong?
Check out the quotations from the Supreme Court’s ruling which are posted here
http://www.wowowow.com/cl/305036
& here
http://www.wowowow.com/cl/305359
and see what you make of them.

[Before commenting, I need to make a statement re. terminology.  In allowing people to wed, the state makes no religious judgment or assertion.  The government is only in the business of civil administration (of contract law, in particular).  Thus ALL marriages are, from the government’s perspective, “civil unions”.]
The court repeats in various places what the statute does and does not do.  In short, Prop. 8 does not abrogate the right to privacy, the right to due process of law or (as in the ruling under Marriage Cases)
“the constitutional right of same-sex couples to ‘choose one’s life partner and enter with that person into a committed, officially recognized, and protected family relationship that enjoys all of the constitutionally based incidents of marriage’”.
Prop. 8 only changes the “official designation” which the state may use in referring to same-sex unions.
Any church may (at their discretion) deem any one of these same-sex civil unions to be “marriage”, just as any church may (at their discretion) deem any one of these heterosexual civil unions to be “marriage”.

Consequently, I don’t quite know what Kate McCloud means above that there is no gay marriage, try for civil unions instead.  When a gay or lesbian couple applies to the state for a license to wed, the state will / should facilitate the same civil unions as prior to November, which are the same civil unions which heterosexual couples also have.
There doesn’t seem, then, to be anything to “try for”: nothing has changed except for the terminology which the state may use.  Apart from this, the state’s obligations appear to remain unchanged.

Rephrased, as far as I can determine from the ruling, same-sex couples may continue to wed just as they did prior to November with the same legal ramifications (which are precisely the same as those for opposing-sex couples); only the terminology which the state may use has changed.
By Kathleen Oliver on 05/30/2009 1:09 pm