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Q & A | 05/19/2009 7:20 am

Susan Gaertner, a Straight Shooter, Wants to Save Minnesota

Minnesota’s gubernatorial hopeful Susan Gaertner doesn’t mince words when talking about pot, damnation and gay marriage.
By Andrew Belonsky

Editor’s Note: Currently the district attorney of Minnesota’s Ramsey County, Susan Gaertner is looking to extend her reach as the state’s next governor. Here she talks to wOw about negative campaigns, the existence of hell, why she believes in gay marriage and whether or not marijuana should be legalized.

wOw: Susan, as district attorney, you’ve gone through four elections, yes? 

SUSAN: Yes, I was elected to my first term as county attorney, or district attorney, in 1994, and then was re-elected in ’98, 2002 and 2006. I served four four-year terms. So this is my fourth four-year term. 

wOw: I don’t know how an attorney election, how ugly that can get. But obviously a gubernatorial election can get pretty nasty. Are you prepared for the nastiness that will no doubt come down the road?

SUSAN: I’m very prepared. District attorney elections in major jurisdictions, like St. Paul, and suburbs like Minneapolis and its suburbs, can indeed get very nasty.

wOw: Really?

SUSAN: I’ve experienced some very negative campaigning against me. On top of that, a lot of the decisions I make as district attorney are controversial, and I’m used to criticism — either I’m too tough on the criminal or not tough enough, and ugly things can be said. So I’m very prepared for whatever is said or done during the election.

wOw: If things were getting really tough in a campaign, would you turn nasty? Would you have your campaign strategists try to dig up dirt on somebody?

SUSAN: I wouldn’t expect to. I found that when people are negatively campaigning against me, that it’s best just to keep my head up and stay out of the fray.

wOw: Going from an attorney to a governor — is that a big jump? Is that overly ambitious?

SUSAN: I don’t think it’s a big leap. I don’t think it’s overly ambitious. I am the elected district attorney. I have 320 employees. I manage a $35 million budget. We do a range of things from advising the county departments, to protecting children, to collecting child support and, of course, prosecuting criminal cases. It’s a big job and I think it will prepare me very well.

wOw: Have you experienced sexism in your career? Is it a prevalent factor?

SUSAN: I can’t really say one way or the other. I think that sexism these days is generally subtle and not something that I can spend a lot of time thinking about. I would say the most identifiable sexism is that I think the media treats women elected officials more harshly, with more scrutiny than men, and … but again, it’s just nothing I can dwell on.

wOw:  I’m looking at your website and you take a no-nonsense approach to gay marriage, which you support. You know, some politicians would say, “Let’s have civil unions.” You’re just, "This is it! We need it!" From a political perspective, do you think that could become a liability for you?

SUSAN: Yes. I do. But it’s what I believe and I’ve thought a lot about it before I came to that position. I am a straight shooter. I am honest. I’m hopeful that the public will respond well to that. I can’t become wishy-washy; I can’t equivocate about things I believe just to get elected.

wOw: Minnesota has been in the spotlight recently because of the Coleman/Franken situation. What is your take on what can only be described as that debacle?

SUSAN: Well, I guess I’m taking a long view, which I generally try to do, particularly in politics, which can get kind of wrapped up in the moment. Two years from now this is just going to be a little footnote in the history books. It does seem, right now, like it’s taking a long time to sort out.

wOw: Is Coleman just acting like a big baby?

24 Reader Comments (so far…) Sign In or Register to comment

S G

At least she is smart and thoughtful. If they elect her at least she will try to make things better.

By S G on 05/19/2009 7:31 am
HA BIBI
Another loon in the making!
By HA BIBI on 05/19/2009 8:34 am
Kathleen Oliver
As far as I have been able to gather, Andrew Belonsky isn’t considered the world’s most polished interviewer.  Sorry to have to agree, but it sure is evident here.
By Kathleen Oliver on 05/19/2009 10:52 am
HA BIBI
Andrew Belonsky was not the "loon" being referenced!
By HA BIBI on 05/19/2009 12:24 pm
Kathleen Oliver
Oh.  I failed to notice that Susan Gaertner said anything particularly odd.  Let me look again… .
Well, no. I don’t think he’s acting like a big baby.  If the shoe were on the other foot and something as important as a U.S. Senate seat was hanging in the balance over literally a handful of votes, I would expect Al Franken to do whatever he could do to make sure that the end result was the correct one.
OK: is this the loony bit, or did I miss something?
By Kathleen Oliver on 05/19/2009 1:39 pm
HA BIBI
Q. Is she in the running for the Gov seat? A. Yes she is. Hence another loon in the making!
By HA BIBI on 05/19/2009 1:51 pm
Kathleen Oliver
I suppose she’s right: this statement is a bit squirrelly … but if we are ever going to return civility to public discourse, we will need to learn to give people the benefit of the doubt.

Surely, if I am ever going to learn to speak well of John Boehner (like the President can do) I’ve got to start somewhere.  Might just as well practice on the sartorially-challenged Norm Coleman.
By Kathleen Oliver on 05/19/2009 2:36 pm
Mel Berg
Kathleen, does HA BI BI think that anyone running for Govenor is a loon, I find that a bit strange myself. I thought that the lady made a lot of sense, but I could be wrong also. Who knows these days???
By Mel Berg on 05/19/2009 7:39 pm
Kathleen Oliver
Getting something constructive accomplished in government when one has to go up against deeply entrenched interests does seem like an impossible challenge … thus it does seem kind of crazy: if that’s what HA BIBI means, I have to concur with her.  Our government is “the best money can buy” (i.e., is bought and paid for).  The foxes are in charge of the hen house.  The inmates are running the asylum.  This is why we have the energy economy, the environment, the health-care system and the financial system we have … with catastrophic consequences in every field.

…  Still, I gotta love it when someone wants to try.

In general, though, it seems like one has to corrupt oneself just to get one’s foot in the door.  Winning in government takes a lot of money; this may take aligning oneself with some group of entrenched interests just to get started.  Thus no matter how well-motivated or pure one might be at the outset, a politician (arguably) becomes part of the problem before her/his butt even hits the seat.  So says Puddleglum, anyway.
By Kathleen Oliver on 05/20/2009 11:50 am
Kathleen Oliver
Gov. Sarah Palin provides a useful illustration.  She wants to see a natural-gas pipeline built.  While burning gas does have carbon emissions, it is cleaner than oil or coal … and we could take advantage of vast American supplies to reduce the flood of billions of dollars flowing to people that hate us.  It would greatly improve our energy-independence while we convert to a clean energy economy.
While it would be impractical to convert a large number of autos to natural gas - partly because there is no fueling infrastructure for autos - we know where trains run and we know where trucks on the major interstates run, so we could reasonably use a huge amount of American gas here.
What are a Republican Governor plus a Republican President plus a Republican-led Congress able to accomplish?  Not even one shovel of dirt turned over.  There is no construction, no start date, not even any certainty that it will ever happen at all.
Why?  The big oil companies don’t want it.  The moneyed interests are against it.  Thus the project has languished for decades, even though politicians from both parties have worked on it energetically for all that time.

Seems like nothing much gets done in America until there is an extreme crisis and almost everyone is screaming bloody murder.
And when things actually do get done, more often than not (witness the promotion of food corn-based ethanol [rather than accelerating the development of cellulosic, waste-based ethanol] and the promotion of CFLs [rather than accelerating the development of LEDs]) they are short-sighted, dim-witted things to do.

Is it loony to want to serve in government?  If one is an idealist, arguably so.  If one is on the take, not so much.
By Kathleen Oliver on 05/20/2009 1:14 pm
phyllis Doyle Pepe
And that would be because?
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 05/19/2009 12:38 pm
HA BIBI
Three guesses, but the first two don’t count!
By HA BIBI on 05/19/2009 12:48 pm
phyllis Doyle Pepe
That’s a silly response. I do really want to know. Give me specifics.
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 05/19/2009 3:48 pm
Rita@ Goldivas

About sexism, I wonder if she would have been asked if she was ready to take the step from DA to Governor if she were a man. About the hell question - I’m so TIRED of hearing that and similar questions on religion. I think it’s personal and we need to quit focusing on candidate’s religious beliefs, and think more about the positions on various issues.

By Rita@ Goldivas on 05/19/2009 9:43 am
EKA -
Here !  here ! Back in our day, religion was something you did on Sunday, it was not part of the marketplace. Unfortunately it is being dragged into the picture mainly because of sexual issues - gay marriage, abortion, birth control.
By EKA - on 05/19/2009 10:07 am