Gay Marriage | 04/08/2009 8:10 am
Vermont's Gay Marriage Decision Reignites Right

Gay rights advocates celebrated across the nation yesterday, when the Vermont legislature overrode the Governor’s veto and legalized same-sex marriage.
Those celebrations, however, may be curtailed by news that the lawmakers’ decision — and a Supreme Court ruling in Iowa — have only reinvigorated opponents of gay nuptials. The National Organization for Marriage, which believes marriage should remain between a man and a woman, vowed yesterday to take a tougher stand in other states.
The group’s executive director, Brian Brown, told the New York Times that he and his allies planned to start airing commercials across the country that stress the importance of maintaining traditional definitions of marriage.
Yesterday’s measure in Vermont coincided with an equally important decision in Washington DC. The district’s council voted to recognize gay marriages performed elsewhere. Currently four states — Connecticut, Massachusetts, Iowa and Vermont — allow same-sex couples to tie the knot. The council’s vote will require Congressional approval, which means the relatively localized debates will take on a whole new life across the nation.
Some say the Culture Wars are over, but we have a feeling they’re about to flair once again.























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But isn’t it just semantics? Marriage is a civil contracts. What’s the diff? Plus, with civil unions, couples still have to pay extra legal fees to get the same rights that straight couples get for the cost of the license. One estimate put that figure at $600 per couple. How is that fair?
We tried separate but equal once in this country, and it didn’t work. Marriage is a civil institution and there is no logical reason to deny it to gay people. If we’re going to base our laws on religious teachings, then slavery must be legalized, divorce must be outlawed, ditto working on Sunday, eating shrimp, lobster and ham, women wearing pants, burning incense and reading horoscope. And btw, the Bible lists the punishment for some of these "crimes" to be death by stoning.
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… And, of course, such interventions demonstrate that the “separation of church and state” is essentially a sham as well.
Even in America, “liberty” remains pretty much what it always has been: the exclusive domain of those who can marshal enough muscle to defend it at any given time.
Most of us are capable of fiercely defending what we deem to be our own rights; I submit that it is the passion with which we defend the rights of people who are not like us which defines what kind of citizens we are.
I’ve noticed that the NT has severe strictures of its own.
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Your post highlights the fact that people seem to be extremely picky [or should we say, “self-serving”?] about which of the biblical injunctions they want given the force of law in modern society and which they do not. (It is a matter of great sorrow for me personally that the OT’s “thou shalt not kill” and the NT’s Golden Rule never seem to have gotten much traction … not even among church people.)
Sorry, I assumed that what you meant was that marriage should be reserved for dual sex couples because they can procreate.
If not, then what difference does it make to you personally if two people you don’t know who happen to be of the same geneder want the happiness and security of marriage? I mean no disrespect but why do you care?
With this in mind, remember what the Supreme Court of Iowa said in its recent ruling.
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In concluding that the marriage statute under review was constitutionally infirm, the court stated:
We have a constitutional duty to ensure equal protection of the law. Faithfulness to that duty requires us to hold Iowa’s marriage statute, Iowa Code section 595.2, violates the Iowa Constitution. To decide otherwise would be an abdication of our constitutional duty. If gay and lesbian people must submit to different treatment without an exceedingly persuasive justification, they are deprived of the benefits of the principle of equal protection upon which the rule of law is founded. Iowa Code section 595.2 denies gay and lesbian people the equal protection of the law promised by the Iowa Constitution.
What an absurd and horrifying situation: it is easy to target minority groups and strip them of protections enjoyed by others and difficult to protect fundamental principles “upon which the rule of law is founded”.
As suggested over here [ http://www.wowowow.com/cl/260190 ], if we would only consider what fundamental principles we support before considering banning this and banning that, political discourse and decision-making in this country would be simplified enormously.
The big question now is whether the California Supreme court will agree that minority groups should indeed be easy prey or whether they will agree instead with Iowa’s Supreme Court. Even though none of these decisions will directly affect my marriage, I don’t believe anyone’s rights are genuinely safe unless everyone is afforded equal treatment under the law.
Thankfully, we are inching towards the day when I can once again say with some conviction, “This is a free country.”
Now even "Pastor Rick" Warren has backtracked on gay marriage, telling Larry King this week, "I am not an anti-gay marriage activist."
But as conservative gay columnist Andrew Sullivan points out, Warren may have broken one of the Ten Commandments when he said:
For one thing, Prop 8 was launched in early 2008 and was over in November, not "two years." For another, here’s what Warren said in October:
So Pastor Rick lied?
Couple of things: 5,000 years ago, the standard practice of marriage was polygamy. In fact, Abraham, the father of Judaism, Christianity and Islam was a polygamist, as were other many other major Old Testament figures.
Secondly, Alfred Kinsey, the pioneering sex researcher, said his studies show that around 10 percent, not 2 percent, of the population is gay. In any case, if gay people are only 2 percent, then why all the fuss? If gays are so insignificant why does it matter so much?
Finally, Obama opposed Prop 8, and said so publicly.
You’ll also find a video of Warren making this statement here on YouTube.