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Nancy Pelosi on Torture | 04/27/2009 12:25 pm

What Did She Know About 'Torture'? Nancy Pelosi on the Defensive

By The Staff at wowOwow.com
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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi appears to be on the defensive over what exactly she knew — and when she knew it — about the Bush administration’s "enhanced interrogation" techniques.

The California Democrat befuddled some reporters, Republicans and others last week when she gave what Politico says were some "convoluted answers" to reporters about the interrogations. Now Republicans have jumped at the chance to pummel Pelosi’s insistence that she didn’t know what was going on. CIA Chief Porter Goss said she must be suffering from "amnesia" — since he was with her in 2002 when they were briefed by the CIA on the techniques.

Goss wrote over the weekend:

I am slack-jawed to read that members claim to have not understood that the techniques on which they were briefed were to actually be employed; or that specific techniques such as ‘waterboarding’ were never mentioned. It must be hard for most Americans of common sense to imagine how a member of Congress can forget being told about the interrogations of Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed. In that case, though, perhaps it is not amnesia but political expedience.

A Pelosi adviser told Politico that the speaker knew the GOP was going to come after her, and that they likely will again once another batch of alleged torture photos comes out. No doubt that’s going to stir up yet another political mess about how the U.S. treated terror suspects.

The Washington Times reports today that Obama’s release of the CIA memos on interrogation techniques last week, and his recent acquiescence to a bipartisan review panel to look into those aspects of Bush’s presidency, has caused such a furor, even some congressional Democrats want it to just go away. Although, it seems Obama is backing off of that stance now, saying we need to insted look forward. And the newspaper agrees:

The politicization of policy differences has been a fact of life in Washington since the Watergate era, but in the past one could reasonably expect that such political warfare would end when a new administration commenced. Investigatory panels, such as the ‘Commission of Inquiry’ called for by Sen. Patrick Leahy, Vermont Democrat, would represent an unprecedented escalation of political warfare in the American system. Proponents of such tribunals exhibit a spirit of political retribution not seen since the end of the Civil War.

What do you think? Should we have a so-called "truth commission" to look into alleged Bush-era misdeeds, or should the country move on and focus on other things, like the economy?

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DeBúrca obj
Kelly, would you tell a woman who had been raped not to prosecute because it was time to "move on"? We are a country of laws and the ‘time to move on’ is after this thing is investigated and made right.
By DeBúrca obj on 04/27/2009 5:10 pm
Kelly In Texas

DeBurca….what kind of comparison is that? A woman who has been raped many times is physically injured and severely mentally harmed. That is the definition of torture.

Enhanced Interrogation Techniques do not allow severe physical or mental harm. No injury. 20-40 seconds. Medical personnel in attendance to intervene and insure the safety of the subject.

Which do you think Nicole Brown Simpson would have preferred….waterboarding or life with OJ ???

No comparison. At that time, those techniques were not considerd torture. 3…three…TERRORIST walked away UNHARMED. But yet…you advocate further weakening our Nation at this tenuous time and throwing us into a circus of courts and accusations!

Enough! Waterboarding is gone now.

Waterboarding BIG DAMN DEAL.

By Kelly In Texas on 04/27/2009 6:33 pm
Rudi G.
If it’s not torture why is the right wing hero Sean Hannity chickening out?
By Rudi G. on 04/27/2009 6:46 pm
Kelly In Texas
Why are you asking me Rudi? Hannity is not my hero…but I imagine because it is now illegal..ya think?
By Kelly In Texas on 04/27/2009 7:57 pm
DeBúrca obj

Telling people that this attrocity is ‘in the past’ and we should ‘move on’ and pretend it didn’t happen is the equivalent of telling a rape victim not to prosecute, to move on!

 "Enough" will be when we get to the bottom of this and prosecute the war criminals responsible for the orders, or else we will never be safe in this country again. We are either a nation of laws or a rogue nation, now is when we decide. 

By DeBúrca obj on 04/27/2009 7:50 pm
Kelly In Texas

No DeBurca, as covered in my other post…not even close.

We are not safe because of extremist religious fanatics that want to kill us NO MATTER what we do. You think that for one second they adhear to ANY type of rules of engagement? ANY? NO THEY DON"T.

I do not think that waterboarding constitutes torture. Period. They walk away without any lasting damage what so ever, not even close to torture.

We are a stupid people….we are allowing them TERRORIST to undermine our country by tearing it apart while they laugh and make plans. Stupid, stupid people.

By Kelly In Texas on 04/27/2009 8:43 pm
DeBúrca obj
These techniques have been considered torture for many years… with the most recent prosecutions for waterboarding of OUR soldiers by the Japanese during WWII, who were convicted and some even hanged for it.
By DeBúrca obj on 04/27/2009 7:52 pm
Kelly In Texas

DeBurca….please give me the links that show the Japanese had time limits of 20-40 seconds only for waterboarding. Please show me where the Japanese had medical personnel there to insure that NO SEVERE DAMAGE, EITHER MENTAL OR PHYSICAL WAS INFLICTED.

Thank you , I await your confirmation of that information.

By Kelly In Texas on 04/27/2009 8:55 pm
deber B
Pelosi knew.    
By deber B on 04/27/2009 2:42 pm
Rudi G.
So what? Hold her accountable too. But Bush said he approved it and that Cheney, Rice et al developed the torture manual and managed the torture — reviewing reports on who was tortured, how and how many times — on a regular basis. What’s unclear is whether they defiled the White House further by actually watching video of the torture in the West Wing.
By Rudi G. on 04/27/2009 3:05 pm
MK P
Even if Pelosi did know — what could she have done about it?   As I recall, anyone who disagreed with Bush was declared unAmerican.
By MK P on 04/27/2009 4:00 pm
deber B

Rudi, you are reading too many novels.    War.    In times of war a president has to do what is needed.   Obama will be faced with this.

 

By deber B on 04/27/2009 4:22 pm
Rudi G.

Haven’t read a novel in 10 years. I read nonfiction. Latest is The Dark Side: The Inside Story of How the War on Terror Turned into a War on American Ideals, by Jane Mayer. I’d recommend it to you but, really, but it is obvious that everyone on the right has priortized the propping up of the the political legacy of the Worst President Ever ahead of their love of this great country.

After this, I hope the right will stop telliing the lie to themselves and others that they are patriotic.

By Rudi G. on 04/27/2009 4:57 pm
Kelly In Texas
Rudi…try Triple Cross by Peter Lance…the last word on who, what and how of 9/11. he was asked  to speak to the 9/11 commission…he’s a Democrat….you are allowed to read it.
By Kelly In Texas on 04/27/2009 9:10 pm
DeBúrca obj
Yes, he’ll be faced with this, just as many presidents before Bush were faced with it, and just like them he will NOT choose war crimes to handle the situation.
By DeBúrca obj on 04/27/2009 8:06 pm