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Women in the Military | 08/17/2009 12:00 pm

Women in Uniform in Iraq, Afghanistan, Prove They're Assets in Combat Zones

It was thought having women with men in combat zones would cause chaos, too many sex problems, but females have instead helped transform life on military bases.
By The Staff of wowOwow.com
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At the U.S. military base Warhorse in Iraq, one can find birth control pills, gynecological services and women’s bathrooms and showers. These are just a few signs that women in uniform in combat zones are here to stay.

The New York Times has an interesting story today on how women serving in Iraq and Afghanistan have changed the way the United States goes to war, but without all the hoopla, problems with sexual relations between men and women at the camps and disruption of discipline and unit cohesion that some feared would accompany them.

The Times writes:

The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are the first in which tens of thousands of American military women have lived, worked and fought with men for prolonged periods. Wars without front lines, they have done more than just muddle the rules meant to keep women out of direct enemy contact. They have changed the way the United States military goes to war. They have reshaped life on bases across Iraq and Afghanistan. They have cultivated a new generation of women with a warrior’s ethos — and combat experience — that for millennia was almost exclusively the preserve of men.

But that doesn’t mean all is nice and rosy. Sexual harassment is still a problem, as is sexual assault — both of which often go underreported out of fear of retribution. A Pentagon report released earlier this year says one in three women soldiers will be victims of some sort of sexual assault during their service. Women are still viewed derisively sometimes, and it goes without saying they need to develop a thick skin to deal with all sorts of challenges, both on and off the battlefield. But they are clearly making their mark with their stellar performances.

"I’ve relieved males from command," said Col. Burt K. Thompson, the commander at Warhorse. "I’ve never relieved a female commander in two and a half years as commander."

Click here to watch a New York Times video on its report.

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Lila Kuh

Sally, it’s not acceptable.  The Army recognizes that and requires EVERYONE to go through training at least annually on what constitutes sexual harassment or discrimination, what the procedures are to report it, and what the consequences are for the perpetrator, the victim, and the unit overall.  These classes are interactive and pretty blunt.  There are other required annual training topics as well, but this is a big one.

Sexual harassment and assault is a big problem just about everywhere, though.  Look at everything from teen "sexting" to graphic language in online chat rooms to workplace "favors" in exchange for promotions or continued employment, or even just this general expectation among young people today that they have to give sexual favors (did you see the article on "Rainbowing"?).

FWIW, I am one of the 2/3 who never had any problems.  SSG Bradford’s comment in the NYT article, "You’re either a bitch, or a slut, or a dyke…" sums up what some of the men seem to think, at least until they get to know you as an individual.  SSG Bradford goes on to say it helps to be a bitch.  YES, absolutely, and don’t take that b-word the wrong way… men who are a-holes are the counterpart to that, and the result is that you are not particularly liked (at first) but you are respected. It also helps to be competent.  You can relax and let people get to know you later, but establish yourself first.  By the end of an assignment, the good troops respected me, and the slugs hated me.  Good to go!

By Lila Kuh on 08/18/2009 7:38 am
Rachel F
I agree, Sally. That’s absolutely attrocious. Everytime I hear a politician talk about drafting women, I can’t help but cringe…how about cleaning the armed forces up so that our women don’t have to worry about our own forces before focusing on getting more women in there? Let’s face it, our troops shouldn’t be watching their back to guard against their fellow troops; it’s one thing to ask Americans to put their well-being on the line in defense of this country, and another entirely to ask them to risk being assaulted by their own "team" because we’d rather not make the effort to take care of the problem!
By Rachel F on 08/20/2009 8:38 am
Paula L

My 18 yr old G-dau -wants to enter the service, she is studing harder to pass the ASVAB at a higher score - apparently the Air Force has upped  score rating for entrance. Anyone that scored 49 or lower are put on a waiting list.  She doesnt want to be on a waiting list so she is studying harder to bring it up.

Her and I researched the forces for women before she made her decision for the Air Force.   Sexual harrassment was ONE of the concerns: Although ALL the forces HAVE sexual harrassments - the Navy and Air Force had the lowest numbers. Army had the largest number.  WE concluded, taking many considerations into factor, that Air Force would be the best for her.    

My second cousin once removed - SHE joined the Army and served in Desert Storm.  Her Daughter is now in the Georgia ARMY national guard-  and is in Iraq right now.  Neither one experienced sexual harrassment.

My third son (I had 5)  entered the Marine Corps at 18 - left age 26 and signed up for the Oregon National Guards - and is a present IN Iraq till next April - he just got there.

By Paula L on 08/17/2009 11:35 pm
Liz Bard

I protested the Vietnam War when I was in college in 1969-70, then on November 7, 1972 I missed  election day because I was enlisting into the Army as a WAC. I was sent to Ft McClellan, AL, then was sent to Fort Devens, MA. I had wanted to be a radio operator, but unfortuantely i almost maxed the exam. I was the first in 6 months, male or female - who did not have to be tutored and retested. I just had to lose 2  lbs to get in. I was a recruiters dream since they could count me for October and still get his bonus. I was 21 and in basic wondered why I did it, but by the time I got to Massachusetts and then to Germany, I knew.

I also knew when the Belgium Legion invited the VFW thru the American Legion to celebrate VE Day in Antwerp, Belgium. It was their way of showing appreciation for what out parents, grandparents, uncles, etc. did in order to give them democracy. The people on the trip were Vietnam Vets or Vietnam Era Vets (like me). We had the sexual assault, sexual harrassment, etc. There was also little effort to assign husband and wife together even if their training was the same or compatable. I did not go past 3 yrs, but my husband retired with 20 yrs (he had 7 years service when I met him).

 I graduated from high school the summer of 1969. I was in Texas and couldn’t get to Woodstock.  I also remember years later when women burned their bras.

By Liz Bard on 08/18/2009 2:31 am
Lila Kuh
The Army does better now about assigning spouses together, but it doesn’t always work out.  For 15 of my years in the Army, I was married to another Army officer and we were assigned apart a total of about 5 years.  For the longest time we dragged around two microwaves, blenders, toasters, etc. since we never knew when our next separation would occur. 
By Lila Kuh on 08/18/2009 6:58 am
F Fox
There is a two-gender armed forces now in Israel with major concerns on the part of many people about the sexual assault part, both for general and also religious reasons. I would be interested in the military ladies’ observations and opinions on how to minimize this and also why the USAF and Navy have had lower incidences of same. BTW, also kudos to you all on your defence of the US. The first female Navy fighter pilot is in my scrapbook via a news article.
By F Fox on 08/18/2009 7:23 am
Diana T
My only question is this:  Who takes care of the children if they are killed?  What about their children without a mom?  What happens if they become pregnant?  I wonder about the children. 
By Diana T on 08/18/2009 10:31 am
Lila Kuh

Diana, all "dual-career" couples (both parents in the service) and all single parents MUST have a family care plan designating someone to care for the children while you are deployed, and in case you are killed.  The person designated as the caregiver MUST sign a letter in the packet accepting responsibility.  The care plan addresses transportation of the children, if needed, money matters, powers of attorney, and other details, as well as naming a guardian.  If you cannot maintain a care plan, you are discharged from the military.  In the case of couples, only one spouse needs to get out if they can’t maintain a care plan.

A soldier who gets pregnant has an opportunity to get out of the military for up to 30 days after the baby is born.  If she elects to stay in service, then she must complete her commitment and prepare a care plan.

By Lila Kuh on 08/18/2009 10:56 am
Diana T
Thank you, Lila.  I have always wondered about that, and I am glad to know this.  Most soldiers leave the military in good shape, and it affords them a great way to advance themselves through educational benefits.  So,  I gather that a single mom with no one to take care of her offspring can’t just join without a plan.  Right?  This is the main reason I have struggled with this issue.  On the other hand, women while not in combat, played a very important role in WW2; indeed I’ve had acquaintences that flew planes back then.
By Diana T on 08/18/2009 1:05 pm
Lila Kuh

Actually, a single parent is not allowed to join the Army at all… UNLESS he/she formally gives up custody of the kids for the term of the first enlistment.  And for couples with kids, only one parent can join.  The family care plan only applies to soldiers already in service when they become parents.

Also, prior to 1976 (in the days of the WACs), NO woman was allowed to be pregnant in the service.  No choice in the matter.  As soon as you were found to be pregnant, you were discharged.  But then - those were also the days when the saying, "If the Army wanted you to have a family, they’d have issued you one" was common.  The military has had to be more flexible on family issues now that we are all-volunteer, and they actually do a pretty good job at it these days.

By Lila Kuh on 08/18/2009 2:04 pm
phyllis Doyle Pepe
Thanks for this information, Lila, like Diana, I was wondering about the parental situation myself. Good to know there are plans in place.
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 08/19/2009 7:55 am
Grande Camper
WOW I have to hand it to some of you ladies in the Army, Navy, & Military.  I think even if I was younger ( I won’t say how many decades younger) I don’t know if I have what it take to do what you ladies are doing.  Hats off to some of you ladies for making a difference.
By Grande Camper on 08/18/2009 10:34 am
Wendy R
I was never sexually assaulted in the Marines and was never harassed by my superiors. Now the everday Jo in the military will sometimes come on alittle too hard with the flirting and advances, but that’s were the thick skin comes in. I never had a problem putting them down. One guy touched my hair after I told him not to, a well place fist in the groin area put him on the ground for quite awhile. He wanted me written up for assault and my Sgt. said "didn’t the other guys warn you not to ever touch Ryan she’ll put you on the ground in the most painful way, and if anyone is getting written up it will be you for touching her" it was hilarious after the fact, the poor guy didn’t know what to do while all the guys laughed at him.
By Wendy R on 08/18/2009 12:17 pm
F Fox
Thnaks Wendy for the graphic explanation. I guess that’s what they call "facts on the ground."
By F Fox on 08/18/2009 12:42 pm
Diana T

Wendy, that just may work in the workplace with over eager male co-workers… :-)

By Diana T on 08/18/2009 1:06 pm