Yes! Just as I will hold the door for someone holding a child, too many packages, the little man struggling with his walker, or someone just following me into a restaurant, and always for someone older than me. I just think of it as common courtesy.
Hey, you are comparing women in general as the question implies to (very specifically) either someone with his/her hands full or a disabled or older person. What kind of comparison is that? ;)
Hanka, did you miss the ‘Yes’ I started out with? I also ended by stating I usually hold the door for anyone following me. I just think that it is common courtesy, and I’m a woman.
Hi Rose
:) I didn’t miss it. And I agree with you there if it comes to the situations you named. But if it came down to either yes or no to the general question as it was asked I’d say no. Probably because I had a colleague who would always hold the door open for women. And he would take women by the elbow and lead them along. That is just too much. I don’t like being led around like a small child. And I like to open the doors myself. ^^
My mum would come back and haunt my ass if I didn’t—she raised her boys to be polite as she saw it and bro and I still do things like that—ingrained I guess, old-fashioned up-bringing by her at least considering these days and what I see. Though she was appalled by our swearing when she caught us at it and roundly chewed us out. She had specific ideas of right and wrong and right behaviour and she taught us pretty well indeed. Thank the gods she never caught either of us smoking doobies—hear the last of that? No way. The thought of that still sends shivers. She didn’t mind the boozing or the cigs—boys will be boys but you better be at mass on Sunday with her or a dose of hell was in order, no matter the head that morning. Oh my yes.
Frank, I have a question for you…………….not critizing you, just curious. Why do you find it necessary so often to tell us you are smoking (a doobie) as you call it. I believe they should legalize marijunia…….but since it isn’t legal I just find it curious that you announce your habit.
Of course they should, not just for the sake of the woman, but for the civilizing effect it has on the man to remind himself that he is gentleman. I insist that all my boys do so for me, and for their sisters, as they see their father do for me.
It sets a standard for men that they should treat women with respect regardless of their feelings for that woman in particular. They should also stand when a woman sits down or leaves a shared table. Opening car doors is another important act that communicates respect.
My daughter was watching MTV tonight, and I heard one of the young men on the stage calling the girl on the stage a b-tch, repeatedly. I demanded the channel be changed instantly and communicated my horror at the lack of civilized behavior. Atrocious!!
Bella
You are absolutely correct that common courtesy, such as opening doors for women, sets a standard for men to treat women with respect. And, frankly, I like that there are gender-based rules of etiquette. I might be biased because I was raised to believe that a ‘real man’ is first and foremost a gentleman. My father performed all those gallant gestures of a gentleman, as did my ex. And, I taught my sons these gentleman ethics. Also, what I’ve noticed is that ‘true gentlemen’ seem to be more confident and secure, hence, they are less threatened by assertive, successful women. Consequently, in the business world, the more gallant men are, the more likely they are to respect and accept their female peers as equals. It’s the rude bastards - who have no notion of what it mean to be gentleman - who give powerful and successful women headaches. Yes, I’m for chivalry. It’s what defines dignity and character in a man.
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