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The first , last and only concern here should be the safety and well-being of the children. Six children in a three bedroom house is a stretch, but it can be done with organization and a lot of bunk beds. Add eight more and you’re talking unsafe conditions., especially when you consider the health issues that premature newborns may have. However, I agree with the poster that the government needs to have limits placed on who , when and under what conditions they can move into a household and tell people how to live their lives. Isn’t that what they call a ‘slippery slope’? However, in this situation, such actions are , probably, warranted.
I don’t know if she’s insane or not but she should still be evaluated just to make sure. However, other people like Dr. Phil have interviewed her and found her to be quite intelligent and normal for the most part. What amazes me is how everyone is screaming not on my tax dollars but then the minute the woman goes out and finds an alternative i.e., pictures, T.V. interviews and possibly talk of a reality show then people slam her for that. Seriously, what else is she going to do to earn money with 14 kids??? She has to go the movie/book/TV route otherwise ITWILLBE on our tax dollars. I say leave her alone and see what happens. Maybe she will eventually get it all under control and everything will be fine. If not, then people can start throwing in their 2 cents and DCS can step in and do something at that point.
And who am ‘I’ to judge? Hmm! I don’t think she’s insane or psychotic…what I do believe it that she may have "assummed" that once she made the announcement that she was carrying 8 babies…that the response and support would just fall from the sky and she and her 14 children would be well off for a long time.
I also believe that she will be paid as there are all kinds of people in this world and someone is out there feeling sorry for her and those babies/children, so having said that…I think she will be fine. I just hope she hires a couple of nanny’s to help her with all the children.
What’s the definition of insane? Does she have mental health disorders? Very likely. Are these disorders such that they will harm the children? I believe there’s a good potential.
Give her the children and que sera, sera? Hell, no. LA County is understaffed of real social workers. Translation: better to get CPS to do an evaluation NOW while the hospital still has the kids than to have a case of 14 kids being neglected and no one doing an evaluation for months.
None of my business? As long as I’m paying State and Federal taxes I disagree.
I won’t argue that “life begins at conception” although I do think that people really need to think about quality of life. What kind of life will it be if a child is scarred for life from neglect? She could have given the embryos to a very deserving couple. Now THAT would have been a phenomenal gift of love.
The woman is not stable, and in spite of her 4 year degree in Child and Adolescent Behavior she is sadly misinformed. She claims that “they” can tell if the kids have Cerebral Palsy by now and they don’t. Not true; some of the signs don’t show up for many months. She also claims that her children’s immune systems are now developed. She’s wrong again. Full development occurs around age 14, but most experts agree that the infant immune system is generally complete by 36 months. Consider that she has older children who will be dragging germs home continuously. Can you imagine a houseful of kids down with a cold? How much else does she not understand?
Has she considered that she cannot depend on her parents’ help? Or that of volunteers?
Regardless of whether or not she has mental health disorders, I would certainly check out her executive functioning [which determines how well she is able to plan]. For sure we know she’s greatly remiss in common sense.
Consider this: the woman shows some characteristics found in narcissists and certainly is delusional. So what is going to happen when she’s deluged with caring for kids? Who will make her feel special, something a narcissist must have? [I suspect the IVF doc has been filling that void by implanting embryos all these years. Will she go that route again?]
I don’t give a da*n about her, but I really feel for those kids. Oh yes - she’s got the video of the ocyuplets’ births out for bid. Isn’t there some law about exploiting minors???
i think she has a trick or two up her sleeve..she knows people will come to her aid because of the children and that is the issue, the children. as for ‘proper’ home conditions, i was told by my DIL who works for family services that in all likelihood, i would have been taken out of my home when i was growing up because i shared a room with my brother until i got married….we were poor and all my parents could afford was first a 1-bedroom apt. and then as we got older, a 2-bedroom apt…… do any of you ‘older’ writers remember sleeping head to feet in a sibling filled bed ?
This woman is like a 12 year-old squeely girl. They’re into movie stars, are narcissistic, think their mothers are their slaves, overdramatize everything, have unrealistic dreams, think they’re invincible, have hormone fluctuations……..and are as irritating as hell.
So I ask: do you think a 12 year-old is capable of raising of child who grows into a normal adult?
I have a problem with this woman having 8 more children to add to the half dozen she already has at home (3 of which are "special needs kids") and the woman is on Welfare!!. Why is her only source of income that monthly support check courtesy of all of the taxpayers? I guess she wanted a raise in her income so she decided to have more kids. Anyone on Welfare should be forced to get her tubes tied after the first kid if they want to keep getting support for the kids or risk losing them to the State. MD in California
Would the state of California really release the babies, when she does not have the help or means to take care of thier basic needs? She would not even be able to feed all of them properly in a twenty four hour period, and that is if she never slept!
It really is tricky. Hospitals threaten to throw out patients on discharge, but it is really difficult to do so if they have no place to go. It is a slippery slope to get the govt involved. Normally, a social worker will be involved & help with discharge planning. That is assuming Nadya shows up & stops gallivanting across the country on interviews. I have twins. I got them at 5 months old. I have since had two newborns & I cannot imagine trying to care for 2 newborns let alone 8 plus 6 others. It’s not possible. I think she believes her mother will stay to help. I think she will too. After all, imagine the outrage if she doesn’t. But still it will take more than that for the first 6 months. Why she didn’t accept the Angels help befuddles me, but I wasn’t there to here the deal. Give a couple days at home then we’ll see where this goes.
As for the poll. No, she is not insane. She is not incompetent to make her own decisions. She does need a reality check & I just hope it is not at the expense of her babies.
My sis-in-law had preemies similar to this (age wise) They are fine medically & were sent home well before the parents thought they would be. Hope Nadya is prepared because it may be coming very, very soon. They told my sis-in-law by their due date. They were released SIX weeks before their due date.
The orphanage my twins came from had two ladies who cared for 12 babies (6 wks to a year) for 24 on/24 off. My children got no love, nothing except essential care. They had pseudo autism, which resolved with love & attention. This woman kids are already prone to autism (hereditary) then they are going to basically be living in institutional like care. It’s crazy.
The best question I like to hear answered by all the naysayers is: what would you do? As a pro-lifer, she couldn’t give up her embryos to death (thrown in the trash), she couldn’t give them to other couples (might as well give them up for adoption-not something the majority could do), she couldn’t afford to keep them frozen. So what would you do?
Now you have 14 kids (that was supposed to be 7), what do you do? Scurry, scurry, those babies are coming home soon. What are you going to do? Don’t mind that your’e post-partum & have 6 kids at home. What are you going to do? You laid in the hospital all those weeks optimistically thinking you’d be getting a reality show. It was your plan, the solution. IT didn’t work that way. What are you going to do? YOur rose-colored glasses are changing quickly to smoke-colored. What are you going to do?
She is not insane, but she definitely has psychological problems and for once I think the welfare of the children should come before the rights of the mother. I do not believe she is psychologically capable of providing the care that those babies need. And she obviously is not monetarily able to care for the needs of even the children she has now, let alone eight infants.
I always wanted a lot of children, but we could not afford it. I had to wait until I was forty two before I was financially able to afford a child, even though I desperately wanted tham. I was lucky enough to be able to get pregnant and I have a wonderful son. But I do not expect anyone else to pay for my child. He is my responsibility, and I don’t think I should have to help pay for anyone else’s children. Knowing how much I wanted children, but also knowing I did the right thing by not having children I could not afford, I feel very angry when irresponsible people expect the rest of the world to pay for their selfish wants. I think she should be evaluated as to whether she can provide adequate care in all areas, psychologically, physically and monetarily. When it is determined that she is not able to, (as I’m sure it will be if the truth is actually told) then the babies should be put up for adoption so they can have a stable, loving upbringing by parents that are emotionally stable and capable of giving them what they will need,
She surely has some deep psychological problems. But my question is why would any fertility doctor assist an unmarried mother of 6 in a pregnancy? Clearly the responsibility is not the mother’s alone…
I think that like in any other situation where protective services (or other authorities with jurisdiction) has call for an evaluation- that this one should be investigated and handled according to protocol.
I personally think she’s a wack-job, but that’s not a professional opinion- just the thoughts of a concerned mother.
I just can’t stop worrying about all those children…
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And who am ‘I’ to judge? Hmm! I don’t think she’s insane or psychotic…what I do believe it that she may have "assummed" that once she made the announcement that she was carrying 8 babies…that the response and support would just fall from the sky and she and her 14 children would be well off for a long time.
I also believe that she will be paid as there are all kinds of people in this world and someone is out there feeling sorry for her and those babies/children, so having said that…I think she will be fine. I just hope she hires a couple of nanny’s to help her with all the children.
What’s the definition of insane? Does she have mental health disorders? Very likely. Are these disorders such that they will harm the children? I believe there’s a good potential.
Give her the children and que sera, sera? Hell, no. LA County is understaffed of real social workers. Translation: better to get CPS to do an evaluation NOW while the hospital still has the kids than to have a case of 14 kids being neglected and no one doing an evaluation for months.
None of my business? As long as I’m paying State and Federal taxes I disagree.
I won’t argue that “life begins at conception” although I do think that people really need to think about quality of life. What kind of life will it be if a child is scarred for life from neglect? She could have given the embryos to a very deserving couple. Now THAT would have been a phenomenal gift of love.
The woman is not stable, and in spite of her 4 year degree in Child and Adolescent Behavior she is sadly misinformed. She claims that “they” can tell if the kids have Cerebral Palsy by now and they don’t. Not true; some of the signs don’t show up for many months. She also claims that her children’s immune systems are now developed. She’s wrong again. Full development occurs around age 14, but most experts agree that the infant immune system is generally complete by 36 months. Consider that she has older children who will be dragging germs home continuously. Can you imagine a houseful of kids down with a cold? How much else does she not understand?
Has she considered that she cannot depend on her parents’ help? Or that of volunteers?
Regardless of whether or not she has mental health disorders, I would certainly check out her executive functioning [which determines how well she is able to plan]. For sure we know she’s greatly remiss in common sense.
Consider this: the woman shows some characteristics found in narcissists and certainly is delusional. So what is going to happen when she’s deluged with caring for kids? Who will make her feel special, something a narcissist must have? [I suspect the IVF doc has been filling that void by implanting embryos all these years. Will she go that route again?]
I don’t give a da*n about her, but I really feel for those kids. Oh yes - she’s got the video of the ocyuplets’ births out for bid. Isn’t there some law about exploiting minors???
i think she has a trick or two up her sleeve..she knows people will come to her aid because of the children and that is the issue, the children. as for ‘proper’ home conditions, i was told by my DIL who works for family services that in all likelihood, i would have been taken out of my home when i was growing up because i shared a room with my brother until i got married….we were poor and all my parents could afford was first a 1-bedroom apt. and then as we got older, a 2-bedroom apt…… do any of you ‘older’ writers remember sleeping head to feet in a sibling filled bed ?
This woman is like a 12 year-old squeely girl. They’re into movie stars, are narcissistic, think their mothers are their slaves, overdramatize everything, have unrealistic dreams, think they’re invincible, have hormone fluctuations……..and are as irritating as hell.
So I ask: do you think a 12 year-old is capable of raising of child who grows into a normal adult?
Linda,
It really is tricky. Hospitals threaten to throw out patients on discharge, but it is really difficult to do so if they have no place to go. It is a slippery slope to get the govt involved. Normally, a social worker will be involved & help with discharge planning. That is assuming Nadya shows up & stops gallivanting across the country on interviews. I have twins. I got them at 5 months old. I have since had two newborns & I cannot imagine trying to care for 2 newborns let alone 8 plus 6 others. It’s not possible. I think she believes her mother will stay to help. I think she will too. After all, imagine the outrage if she doesn’t. But still it will take more than that for the first 6 months. Why she didn’t accept the Angels help befuddles me, but I wasn’t there to here the deal. Give a couple days at home then we’ll see where this goes.
As for the poll. No, she is not insane. She is not incompetent to make her own decisions. She does need a reality check & I just hope it is not at the expense of her babies.
My sis-in-law had preemies similar to this (age wise) They are fine medically & were sent home well before the parents thought they would be. Hope Nadya is prepared because it may be coming very, very soon. They told my sis-in-law by their due date. They were released SIX weeks before their due date.
The orphanage my twins came from had two ladies who cared for 12 babies (6 wks to a year) for 24 on/24 off. My children got no love, nothing except essential care. They had pseudo autism, which resolved with love & attention. This woman kids are already prone to autism (hereditary) then they are going to basically be living in institutional like care. It’s crazy.
The best question I like to hear answered by all the naysayers is: what would you do? As a pro-lifer, she couldn’t give up her embryos to death (thrown in the trash), she couldn’t give them to other couples (might as well give them up for adoption-not something the majority could do), she couldn’t afford to keep them frozen. So what would you do?
Now you have 14 kids (that was supposed to be 7), what do you do? Scurry, scurry, those babies are coming home soon. What are you going to do? Don’t mind that your’e post-partum & have 6 kids at home. What are you going to do? You laid in the hospital all those weeks optimistically thinking you’d be getting a reality show. It was your plan, the solution. IT didn’t work that way. What are you going to do? YOur rose-colored glasses are changing quickly to smoke-colored. What are you going to do?
Nutty Nadya’s Nursery coming right up.
She is not insane, but she definitely has psychological problems and for once I think the welfare of the children should come before the rights of the mother. I do not believe she is psychologically capable of providing the care that those babies need. And she obviously is not monetarily able to care for the needs of even the children she has now, let alone eight infants.
I always wanted a lot of children, but we could not afford it. I had to wait until I was forty two before I was financially able to afford a child, even though I desperately wanted tham. I was lucky enough to be able to get pregnant and I have a wonderful son. But I do not expect anyone else to pay for my child. He is my responsibility, and I don’t think I should have to help pay for anyone else’s children. Knowing how much I wanted children, but also knowing I did the right thing by not having children I could not afford, I feel very angry when irresponsible people expect the rest of the world to pay for their selfish wants. I think she should be evaluated as to whether she can provide adequate care in all areas, psychologically, physically and monetarily. When it is determined that she is not able to, (as I’m sure it will be if the truth is actually told) then the babies should be put up for adoption so they can have a stable, loving upbringing by parents that are emotionally stable and capable of giving them what they will need,
I think that like in any other situation where protective services (or other authorities with jurisdiction) has call for an evaluation- that this one should be investigated and handled according to protocol.
I personally think she’s a wack-job, but that’s not a professional opinion- just the thoughts of a concerned mother.
I just can’t stop worrying about all those children…