I took Latin in High school for 3 years, one daughter, and one son took Spanish, another French, third daughter now taking Latin for a 3rd year.
I don’t think Spanish should be mandatory because I think latin is so useful in learning additional languages. I do think that there should be incentives for students to learn languages on their own and then “test” for credit for that knowledge. After I came home from 16 months in Guatemala, I was able to test out of 3 years of college Spanish.
Another excellent program FREE on the web is Cafemocha.com. They have programs to learn languages, and then you can sign up to chat with someone from a foreign country who is a native speaker of your new language. My homeschooling son is learning German, and we had a girl from Romania contact him to practice her English.
I love the concept of Free learning sites that are sponsored by advertisers.
Hi Bella Mia,
Do you have any other information on free language program? I have googled Cafemocha.com several times and I just keep getting sites about coffee!
Hi Ms. Jane Cougar Melonhat (I’ve been waiting for an excuse to type that!) If you find something out about this Cafemocha.com, let me know, and I’ll do the same. Have a great day.
This is one of the areas in which I lean more toward the conservative viewpoint than the liberal. I do think we should have English as our national language and learning other languages should remain optional as it always has been. In one way I also see this issue the same way I see religion in schools. Neither a religious belief nor a social philosophy should be infiltrated into our culture by putting them in the curriculums of our tax funded public schools. If a tax paying parent doesn’t want a child to learn creationism or Spanish, they should have that choice.
To the extent that all of our laws are written in English, we already have a national language. I have never understood what additional benefit could be gained by declaring that English is the official language. Have you ever seen an U.S. Supreme Court opinion written in Spanish or Chinese? Of course not. Would making it an “official” language make it possible to imprison violators who speak in another tongue? No one wants that. School itself was once optional; that did not work out very well.
I think it is still unconstitutional to teach religion in schools, other than as historical forces or philosophies. Teaching theology or creationism as if it were science is pretty much an establishment of religion.
Yes, gosh yes! I can’t believe the no answers exceed the yes. However, maybe those answering no would prefer the language to be Mandarin which is the language spoken by the most people.
Only playing advocatus diaboli, Chris, so no offence, okay?
If European countries teach the languages of their neighbors, then wouldn´t this be an argument for Spanish in American schools, since there are basically two neighbors, Canada and Mexico?
Jane,
As a point of interest and which I have always found intriguing especially during the Cold War, America is also a neighbor of Russia via our northernmost State of Alaska. But I understand that learning Russian is now considered ‘out-of-fashion’. Pity.
Um, well, Chris, it’s arrogant and ignorant? One time I was in Wales in a bar and this Texan (sorry, but he was a Texan) was pitching a fit because the barman wouldn’t accept dollars as payment of his tab. After a few minutes, when it became clear that this pain would never end, I told the barman I would be glad to take care of the gentleman’s tab, and paid in pounds sterling, which is what it was at that point. The Texan was livid. “What’s the matter with these people? My money’s not good enough for them?” “Actually, no, it isn’t.” Lawsy lawsy lawsy…
The key word is ‘mandatory’.
In Ireland, Irish is required from age 4 on (unless you arrive in the country after age 12). The government pays for every school- public and private- to provide a required minimum of 30 minutes of Irish class per day. There are government subsidized Irish language radio and television stations. Students are required to take Irish on their Leaving Certificate exams- used for college admissions- at the end of 12th grade. There is a whole culture of Irish camps in the summers to help the children develop the language by living in Irish only environments for 3 weeks (ask an Irish adult where they had their first kiss- for many, it’s in the gaeltacht [Irish speaking region]). Add in national pride in one’s own cultural heritage, and surely everybody is fluent in their native tongue, right?
Wrong. For a variety of reasons (rehashed regularly in the media), only a small percentage of Irish people actually can speak more than the “cupla focail” (few words). In the last few years there has been an increase in schools in which all the teaching is in Irish, and Irish names for children are back in fashion, but in both primary and secondary schools (and I have children in both) most kids dread it. It is poorly taught and not part of their daily lives.
My secondary school child takes Irish (required), a European language (required), and Latin. She finds the Latin the easiest and the most fun. Her Spanish teacher is Irish (not a native speaker) and is such a poor teacher that after a year in his class her Spanish was worse than it was at the beginning.
Here is a blog page from somebody who is disgusted that Irish isn’t the dominant language in Ireland: http://www.finfacts.ie/finfactsblog/2006/12/cpla-focail-and-more-hypocri…
Anyway, the point is that it’s all very well to say that it would be better if all American children were multilingual like the Belgians. But the example of Ireland suggests that imposing it from the top is unlikely to work. Ireland is a small, relatively homogenous country, that has shoveled billions into trying to revive their *own* language- with a stunning lack of success. It is hard to imagine that the kaleidscopic mosaic of America is going to buy into being forced to be bilingual English-Spanish.
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