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Poll | 09/16/2008 12:00 am

On the subject of prenups, you:

Read more about: Divorce, Money, Relationships, Weddings

56 Reader Comments (so far…) Sign In or Register to comment

Lucinda Herbert
Beverly, I know what you mean about the killer instinct. We had friends who went through such an ugly divorce, it shocked both my husband and me; I said to my husband “I want you to remember this if anything ever happens to us. Because you negotiate for a living, I want you to promise to never forget that I am the mother of your children.” He couldn’t believe I said that — but, I meant it — he plays to win and if things changed between us, I’d dread being on the other side of the table!
By Lucinda Herbert on 09/17/2008 9:21 am
Brooklyn Gal
Elizabeth, I know women who were forced to give up part of their pensions to their ex’s. My ex brother-in-law hid his assets after he became successul so my sister got hardly anything and raised 4 children on her own. I know at my age I would want to protect my assests. I would also expect any women to make sure there is some clause that covers a spouse’s future earnings.
By Brooklyn Gal on 09/16/2008 9:12 am
Lucinda Herbert
you are so right elizabeth. i also have a friend who separated from her husband … 5 or 6 years went by … they never got a divorce because neither one wanted to remarry … he slipped into alcoholism … lost his very significant job … mismanaged funds … had a heart attack and died … and my poor friend discovered that she was liable for HUGE debts she had no idea he had accrued. It really is best to take care of things legally and not just float through life … makes it easier on everyone.
By Lucinda Herbert on 09/17/2008 9:09 am
C Hardy
I dont see anything wrong with having a pre-nup…Right now I dont have enough money to even bother but if I was wealthy or if I was marrying someone wealthy, it would not bother me at all to have a Pre-Nup…I dont find it offensive in anyway…Look at Paul McCartney…I mean if Oprah ever got married, you can bet your a$$ she would have a major Pre-Nup…Not I have heard some of the celebrities Pre-Nups are really stupid. I heard one of agreement in Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes pre-nup is that she can never weight over a certain amount….so after she had Suri, she had to drop back down to 120 or something like that…Now that is pushing it a little for me but when it comes to money & things he owned before we got married…SURE! Now things we acquired together as a married couple that is different but what he had before we got married, now that isnt mine. My Fiance’s Dad went thru a bitter divorce a couple years ago…His wife got him to sign a Power of Attorney, saying it was insurance papers, he had just gotten home from work and was tired so he signed it b/c he TRUSTED her…well needless to say money starting missing from his work account & low and behold she had stolen over $25K of his money…there was no pre-nup and since that work account money was when they were married there wasnt anything he could do about it…She even tried to take HIS house that he built before they were married and his 100 acres…Yes a Pre-Nup is great!
By C Hardy on 09/16/2008 7:41 am
Jeannot Kensinger
Gosh, let me see, B and I had 45.00 between us when we married. Probably not enough for a lawyer. Seriously? I do not believe in them, if I was asked to sign such a paper the whole deal would be off. I have to be able to trust on all accounts.
By Jeannot Kensinger on 09/16/2008 8:05 am
Mary NSB-Florida
Attention to details, more time getting to know how the partner ticks (what they do, not what they say), and a little less ego, also helps. Does anyone think not reading papers, that you’re given to sign, is a good idea.. ever ? Fall in love, don’t fall off the cliff. Anything that you don’t want to share with the new partner should be off the table before you make any future promises. Pre-nups will never replace honor.
By Mary NSB-Florida on 09/16/2008 8:27 am
Lise 22
If people go into a marriage with a pre-nup then why marry. I feel that a pre-nup means that you are marrying with the intention of getting a divorce so why bother. Perhaps, if they was money at stake people would take the marriage more seriously and work on the problems rather than use the problems as a reason to dissolve the marriage. Yet, at the same time there are so many gold diggers out there, Heather Mills comes to mind, that men and women do need to protect what they earned prior to the marriage.
By Lise 22 on 09/16/2008 8:52 am
Chrome Toe
I’ve never understood the belief that discussing a prenup means you don’t trust a person. I think discussing a prenup means that you’re simply taking care of yourself and you’re asessts. anything can happen in a crazy world. And trustworthy, smart, loving people get divorced every day. trustworthy smart loving people fall in love with someone else besides the person they are married to every day. I married a guy who brought a hundred times more assests to the relationship than I did. He didn’t discuss a pre nup. I’ve thought a couple of times over the years he was nuts not to. He was probably just afraid to ask. But I’d have thought “smart guy”… had he. Lucky for him none of those things have happened to us. And now we’re getting along far enough in years that I have contributed in ways that make me a full partner financially as well as emotionally. But as a grown up… I see nothing wrong with protecting yourself from the “shit happens” in life. That whole “but you don’t trust me” argument sort of floors me to tell you the truth. It isn’t about that. It’s about life being ambiguous in the best of times. I mean come on people… how many lovers have you trusted over the years that didn’t turn out to be what or who you thought?
By Chrome Toe on 09/16/2008 9:07 am
Eliza Dodd
First marriage I had all the money and for some reason he thought we should split that 50/50 ! Didnt happen .He tried to kill me , I lived . Second marriage we both “had” a little money .we built the American dream when President Clinton was in office , we were doing wonderful .We built a house with our own 4 hands .Things were looking up …Then stuff happens …Bush came into POWER and everything in the economy where I once lived went to crap…even our marriage ..And in those hard times You say things in a heated argument and say things you dont mean ….or do we ?? Anyway you realize …YOU could loose everything …YOU had ..if you get a divorce .Who gets the Best Lawyer & who knows so and so …will determine what you walk away with .And somebody is going to get shafted .And it all depends on how smart you are and how you play the court game .Thats the facts .No one likes to loose .And depends on why you are getting a divorce what you end up with .Its better to try to work things out (unless he is a drunk or druggie or weirdo) .Life is too short .Time buzzes by ! Time and Tide wait for no man or woman .The nest egg is VERY IMPORTANT !!! Even if you are married and HAPPY …Every woman Needs a Nest Egg ! Ya never know …his hormones may act up when he is 70 and he may wonder around …Truth is stranger than fiction ..and stuff happens …if you go into a marriage with UNTRUST then thats what you get the whole marriage .If you are worried about YOUR money then dont get married …just live together and everything will be fair …just don’t forget the nest egg ….that only you know about ….
By Eliza Dodd on 09/16/2008 9:30 am
K O
Before any of my clients married, I met with both of them to discuss their credit reports, individual debt, investment goals and strategies, their budget and each of their expected contributions to it, life insurance, will, living will, how title is held in any existing real property, living trusts and pre-nuptial agreement. After that (if they were still together), planning the wedding was a breeze…
By K O on 09/16/2008 9:34 am
thatsoutherngirl k
I wouldn’t have a problem signing one. I’ve been married twice and when we divorced, I didn’t ask/take anything. I can make my own way w/out profiting on a man.
By thatsoutherngirl k on 09/16/2008 9:53 am
James the Game
If the love is strong enough, and a couple has seen each other for a couple of years, then no pre-nup should be needed. But sometimes people get married without waiting a year or two to get to really know the other person, their flaws and idiosyncrasies. Or they marry really young, without the benefit of experience living with another person. So, in those instances, a pre-nup might be warranted. I suppose the moral is, make sure you not only really love each other, but also that you not rush into marriage. And that both parties work hard to water the relationship regularly, because people who really love each other can grow apart over time. My sister and bro-in-law recently have broken the knot after 20 years together. They were so happy together years ago, but they got too focused on their jobs, and didn’t budget fun time together. Fortunately, there are no legal disputes.
By James the Game on 09/16/2008 9:56 am
Hazel Lewis
I don’t know - I kind of feel like with a pre-nup you are beginning your marriage with the thoughts of failure which doesn’t sound too good to me. This wasn’t an issue for us - I suppose one can always find some benefit to not being wealthy! On the other hand - from a legal standpoint the protection a pre-nup gives can be very beneficial. And speaking of wealth - yikes - I wish I could pull all my money out of SmithBarney and put it in the sock drawer, the only method my husband feels secure with. Very depressing situation. I worked too hard for that money to see it just disappear … Take care all!
By Hazel Lewis on 09/16/2008 10:33 am
Lucinda Herbert
I kind of feel like with a pre-nup you are beginning your marriage with the thoughts of failure Hazel, I understand what you’re saying, but if you were marrying for the 2nd time around, you might want to pass your assets to your children — and not his. It’s a good idea to make clear what’s yours and what’s his — you don’t want his children dividing your assets with your children.
By Lucinda Herbert on 09/16/2008 1:27 pm
Hazel Lewis
You make a very good point Lucinda! In my case my second husband had no children and and never been married so no problem. Other than the step parenting issues which is a whole other poll and discussion. It sure wasn’t like in the movies where everybody becomes one happy family instantly …
By Hazel Lewis on 09/16/2008 10:03 pm