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Poll | 09/11/2008 12:00 am

What election was the most important in U.S. history?

Read more about: Election, History, Presidents, U.S.

47 Reader Comments (so far…) Sign In or Register to comment

No Kill and Drill Palin
Patty, So true about Lincoln. Honest Abe would not recognize his party today.
By No Kill and Drill Palin on 09/11/2008 1:47 pm
Jeannot Kensinger
I would say it is this one. It’s not just about the USA, it will make a difference in a quick changing world.
By Jeannot Kensinger on 09/11/2008 6:18 am
James the Game
This election is the most important, because it’s upon us right now. And, as Hillary Clinton so aptly said at the DNC, “nothing less than the fate of our nation is at stake in this election”. Four more years in Iraq, at $10 billion-a-month, and you can kiss this country goodbye.
By James the Game on 09/11/2008 7:47 am
Patty E
Has anyone heard about the news that came out yesterday, from Macomb County in Michigan about not allowing those whose homes are on a forceclosure list, not being able to vote in the Presidential election? Sounds to me that THIS election, as someone has already stated, is the most important election for us to ponder on…… http://www.michiganmessenger.com/4076/lose-your-house-lose-your-vote
By Patty E on 09/11/2008 2:11 pm
James the Game
Thanks for the link, Patty. I don’t know what the legalities are on this, but I’ll keep my eye on the Detroit Free Press and Detroit News to see if they spill some ink on it. Cheers.
By James the Game on 09/11/2008 6:05 pm
Lindy Bixler
The present election is always the most important one. It impacts today and tomorrow. The past is past, we can only create today and tomorrow. Each past election has its own rewards and errors.
By Lindy Bixler on 09/11/2008 8:43 am
rocky rocky
This one also because our choices have never been clearer or more disparate. We are facing such profound consequences we all see but so far have not chosen or perhaps been unable to articulate. Just one is war: • The present war. Even though the media seems to treat it as a minor concern, the war is real and spilling over borders. We have exhausted our troops. Can they continue to do what they must— protect our nation and fight the expanding struggle started on 9/11? How many more are needed? Where will they come from? Exactly how do you think the next president will proceed on this issue?The new oil wars. So far all other nations have not abandoned us, though it’s close, and though they, too, realize that our war in Iraq was partially if not wholly meant to ensure our access to oil in that region. If we continue our “addiction” to oil unabated, what new adventures will we need to embark on to safeguard an adequate supply? Will we do anything for a fix, even allow their own government to do what is yet the unthinkable? Besides Georgia, exactly how many pots have been stirred in the last eight years? And how do you think the next president will proceed? In my mind, these are among many of the things we should be talking about in the last few days before the election. I so sincerely hope we do.
By rocky rocky on 09/11/2008 8:52 am
James the Game
Good points, Rock.
By James the Game on 09/11/2008 9:34 am
Patty E
rocky, your phrase “”So far all other nations have not abandoned us, though it’s close, and though they, too, realize that our war in Iraq was partially if not wholly meant to ensure our access to oil in that region”” cries for an update! Or maybe it is just I who is crying about that, as the media seems not to be interested in a conversation about the current RESULTS of our invasion of Iraq to access the oil in Iraq. Oh, we are all aware that a major reason for invading Iraq, was for the access to the oil….we could have a back and forth discussion as many times as we want—-but the bottom line will STILL be oil. And in my opinion, much of what is happening in this election is about OIL, and the markets…oil. It is why Congress refuses to extend alternative energy tax credits, it is why Palin signed an agreement with TransCanada for a pipline—-and paid them $500 mill to build it, it is one of the reasons Palin was picked, IMO……it is ALL about Oil! When I compared McCains’ voting record with Obama….McCain voted FOR oil and AGAINST any plans for alternatives, and has never even voted for any alternative solutions!! despite his ad with the windmills—he has never voted in favor of the alternatives, because the push is for OIL. But I wonder why the American media has not informed the USA that China and Iraq just signed an EXCLUSIVE agreement for the oil in Iraq! The oil companies such as Shell, BP, Exxon, and other big names, who went to Iraq shortly after the fall, who set up offices there, who have been trying to get contracts and access to the Iraqi oil, have essentially been booted out! CHINA was given the oil! I stumbled on the news by accident, while reading European, China and Arabian business news. For those who ‘understood’ that our soldiers were dying for the sake of the oil to be gained, and have lost their homes, their jobs, their sons and daughters, their health, thinking there would be a long term pay-off to alleviate the pain——-it backfired on America! Yet, where can one find that being reported in the news?
By Patty E on 09/11/2008 10:34 am
DeBúrca obj
I thought the 2004 election was the most important and we blew that one. However, we are still here by a thread so we get another chance… let’s not blow this election, which is I believe the most important in my lifetime.
By DeBúrca obj on 09/11/2008 10:39 am
G T
Cheer up folks. Help is on the way. America is still great and our people are very resiliant and creative. We are NOT doomed!!! There are wonderful opportunities and interesting things to think about and do.. There are so many fascinating things happening and its all going in a positive direction, so jump on the bandwagon and be part of the solution, not part of the problem.
By G T on 09/11/2008 10:55 am
Susan B
The help that’s on the way must come from each of us, not our leaders. I do not want or need to be “rescued” by my president. We tried that recently, and it didn’t work out too well. This morning, someone left these thoughts in my inbox. “Sometimes politics has the uncanny effect of mirroring the national psyche even when nobody intended to do that. This is perfectly illustrated by the rousing effect that Gov. Sarah Palin had on the Republican convention in Minneapolis. Palin’s pluck has been admired, and her forthrightness, but her real appeal goes deeper. She is the reverse of Barack Obama, in essence his shadow, deriding his idealism and exhorting people to obey their worst impulses. In psychological terms the shadow is that part of the psyche that hides out of sight, countering our aspirations, virtue, and vision with qualities we are ashamed to face: anger, fear, revenge, violence, selfishness, and suspicion of “the other.” For millions of Americans, Obama triggers those feelings, but they don’t want to express them. He is calling for us to reach for our higher selves, and frankly, that stirs up hidden reactions of an unsavory kind. (Just to be perfectly clear, I am not making a verbal play out of the fact that Sen. Obama is black. The shadow is a metaphor widely in use before his arrival on the scene.) I recognize that psychological analysis of politics is usually not welcome by the public, but I believe such a perspective can be helpful here to understand Palin’s message. In her acceptance speech Gov. Palin sent a rousing call to those who want to celebrate their resistance to change and a higher vision. Look at what she stands for: Small town values — a denial of America’s global role, a return to petty, small-minded parochialism. Ignorance of world affairs — a repudiation of the need to repair America’s image abroad. Family values — a code for walling out anybody who makes a claim for social justice. Such strangers, being outside the family, don’t need to be heeded. Rigid stands on guns and abortion — a scornful repudiation that these issues can be negotiated with those who disagree. Patriotism — the usual fallback in an surprise attack or failed war “Reform” — an italicized term, since in addition to cleaning out corruption and excessive spending, one also throws out anyone who doesn’t fit your ideology. Palin reinforces the overall message of the reactionary right, which has been in play since 1980, that social justice is liberal-radical, that minorities and immigrants, being different from “us” pure American types, can be ignored, that progressivism takes too much effort and globalism is a foreign threat. The radical right marches under the banners of “I’m all right, Jack,” and “Why change? Everything’s OK as it is.” The irony, of course, is that Gov. Palin is a woman and areactionary at the same time. She can add mom to apple pie on her resume, while blithely reversing forty years of feminist progress. The irony is superficial; there are millions of women who stand on the side of conservatism, however obviously they are voting against their own good. The Republicans have won multiple national elections by raising shadow issues based on fear, rejection, hostility to change, and narrow-mindedness. Obama’s call for higher ideals in politics can’t be seen in a vacuum. The shadow is real; it was bound to respond. Not just conservatives possess a shadow — we all do. So what comes next is a contest between the two forces of progress and inertia. Will the shadow win again, or has its furtive appeal become exhausted? No one can predict for certain. The best thing about Gov. Palin is that she brought this conflict to light, which makes the upcoming debate honest. We deserve to see what we are getting, without disguise.”
By Susan B on 09/11/2008 12:30 pm
Patty E
Susan, can you post that one more time? kidding. Those thoughts were authored by Deepok Chopra, as he was explaining the Carl Jung theory of the shadow…Obama and Palin are pure opposites in their personality ‘types’ as measured by the MBTI, which is bsed on Jung….Obama is the INTP and Palin is the ESFJ……the choices to describe a person are I or E, N or S, T or F, and P or J.. One cannot be dominant in both N and S at the same time….Obama the Rational thinker, Palin the Guardian.
By Patty E on 09/11/2008 2:08 pm
Susan B
I swear, I only hit the submit button once!!! Yes, DC is the author. I left that out, because I wanted people to read his words without prejudice. Thank you for providing the Jung interpretation. I took that test years ago, and have forgotten my ‘type.’ I think I’ll give it another shot. One final comment, I can’t imagine Palin submitting to that personality screen. Did she really?
By Susan B on 09/11/2008 3:46 pm
Patty E
I don; know…but I am one of those ‘certified’ folks that uses the MBTI as a tool in my profession….I had already typed Obama long ago..his fits like a glove….Chopra saying the word shadow, was all I needed, for Palin…had not thought about typing her before his article.
By Patty E on 09/11/2008 4:10 pm