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You’re right, I’m opposed to the administrative branch having any added or significant influence over or in the legislative branch, and Cheney’s actions have underscored my opinion. Be it Biden or Palin, I don’t want their powers extended in that way.
Susan, Biden agrees with you, completely.
Biden quote from the Debate:
“The only authority the vice president has from the legislative standpoint is the vote, only when there is a tie vote. He has no authority relative to the Congress. The idea he’s part of the Legislative Branch is a bizarre notion invented by Cheney to aggrandize the power of a unitary executive and look where it has gotten us. It has been very dangerous”.
Yet he says Sen Obama would want him to be point man with Congress. To my mind, the role of the VP is to be like an alternate juror—be in the room, listen, be prepared to beatk a tie of told to and how told to, and to do whatever else with your time you choose in terms of pet projects.
Biden was quite clear and direct about the separation of branches of government and a VP’s role within the Senate. So I don’t know what you are referring to.
If you have a link that says something different, please provide it.
Star—The VP of the US is President of the Senate under Article 1 section 3 of the US Constitution: “The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no vote, unless they be equally divided”—So you are right, he does essentially need to “be in the room, listen, be prepared to break a tie”. I’m not sure what Biden was talking about—Article 1 defines the Legislative, Article 2 defines the Executive Branch.
Good morning, dahlings. By my count, all but one of you hated her. Just like Bette and me - most loved me, but there were those one or two loved Bette.
Then, she won that damned Oscar…
“You betcha it, gol darn it” - I was waiting for he break out with “on the Good Ship Lollipop”. Biden showed he can be VP and step in to the presidency if needed. Not true about Palin. Her folksy manner was too scripted and got in the way. The interviews say more about the candidates. Mc Cain could have and should have done better. Too bad he ignored Kay Bailey Hutchinson. I will be voting for Obama/Biden ticket.
Full disclosure, I love Joe Biden, always have. He did not disappoint. As for Sarah, down home doesn’t impress me. I don’t want someone a heartbeat away from the pres. doing shout outs to 3rd graders and winking at the camera. I didn’t hear one answer from her that wasn’t a sound bite and the when all else fails talk about energy would have been funny if the stakes weren’t so high.
I thought Biden started off stronger, but grew weaker as he devolved into his old ways. Palin started off shaky, but grew stronger as her comfort level increased with the format.
Biden interrupted himself so many times towards the end that you had no idea of what he was talking about. You can’t teach an old dog new tricks and clearly his handlers have been trying to mold the verbose old coot into delivering tasty sound bites, which he tried valiantly to do — but to no avail. That’s when Palin surged ahead and drew a little blood. I wasn’t a big fan of her constant grin however and think she missed many opportunities to strongly counter Biden’s charges. Weird debate. Why don’t we just give them 5 minutes each for scripted statements next time and call it a day. Everything is so freakin’ prepped these days that nothing is real or sincere anymore. Ack.
What debate were you watching? Biden was strong, well versed on the issues, answered the questions, stated specifics of Obama’s platform, conducted himself with dignity and treated Palin with respect. Palin, on the other hand, decided not to answer questions if she didn’t like them (a rather childish habit, in my opinion), had no clue about anything that was not in her script (a blatantly obvious script), actually had no in-depth knowledge or understanding of those issues that WERE in her script, gave out only glittering generalities about McCain’s plans and acted like a thirteen year old schoolgirl who’s all excited about being on TV. She talks about respect but doesn’t seem to feel respect for anything or anyone. She most certainly did not draw blood! I give her props for not being as bad as I had expected but I still feel very strongly that she would be a disaster in national office.
During the debate, I received a text from my fourteen year-old nephew, who asked why Palin kept changing the subject & not answering the questions put to her.
I replied that because she’s been so well protected from the press, few expected much of her. IMO, expectations about her performance were so low, all she had to look good was not to pee on the stage.
I told him that she had to look not only smart, but tough, as if she could be in command, even if it meant trying to direct the the way the debate played out.
I was surprised by how well she did; she seemed comfortable & never got flustered, even when it was obvious she had to steer the debate away from subjects she either wouldn’t~ or couldn’t~ talk about.
I think she did what she was programmed to do; parrot the party line, push the (false, IMO) picture that McCain is actually a ‘maverick’, &…well, not pee on the stage.
She didn’t say anything that made me think, ‘Hey, she can think for herself!’ She showed no deftness in the way she dragged any subject back to exactly what she wanted to talk about.
Before the debate was over, i was thoroughly weary of being beat over the head with the GOP party line that she & McCain are mavericks.
I think, (& again, this is my opinion), that if any world leaders listened to last night’s debate, they must be in hysterics over Palin’s over-the-top “Joanie Six-Pack” approach. She did not sound like someone who could negotiate anything with world leaders. Perhaps that’s why the GOP tried to limit her recent appearance at the U.N. to photo ops.
I thought Palin’s Joe-six-pack remark was horrible too. Especially since she was debating a Joe who likes himself the odd six-pack now and then. She was waaaay too folksy for my taste. But my Repub. neighbors LOVED her.
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