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Liz Smith | 10/03/2008 3:30 pm

An Appreciation of Our Sisters on 'The View' With an Introduction by Liz Smith

Steve Fenn

Recently, Frank Rich, the op-ed columnist for The New York Times opined that the happening where “The View’s”  Joy Behar intimated to candidate John McCain’s face that he was a liar, put her in a new class in this era as “the Edward R. Murrow” of our age.

While he was being facetious, now comes Time magazine’s James Poniewozik with an appreciation of why “The View” does better presentations, exposures and indications of candidates’ faults than the more traditional journalists.

We agree with him. wOw is especially proud of its association with “The View’s” famous host, Whoopi Goldberg, who is also a wOw contributor, and of our friendship with the head woman, Barbara Walters, who created “The View” after great opposition from many people. She has turned this show into an enormous hit.

And I want to personally defend her from one thing reporter Poniewozik says: “’The View’ would benefit from Walters dialing down her studied neutrality even more.” The columnist may be right but Barbara needs to preserve the even-handedness and fair play that has helped make her famous and she may, at any minute, have to don her news hat to interview a candidate. So she is playing it correctly cool.

Wow is grateful to Rick Stengel, editor of Time, for allowing us to reprint this column and we urge you to check onto the time.com/tunedin link.

THE VIEW, THE PROUD. It’s mouthy, biased and sometimes a train wreck. And the press could learn from it. (No, seriously)  by James Poniewozik: 

No one would confuse ABC’s "The View" with a serious news program. First, because when former President Bill Clinton appeared on the show on Sept. 22, the five-woman panel began the hour by discussing the merits of pantsuits vs. skirts. Second, because the NewsHour probably does not employ a staffer who, as View panelist Sherri Shepherd said on air, does not know whether the earth is flat. And finally, because when Joy Behar questioned John McCain on a Sept. 12 episode about campaign ads of his that she believed were lying, she used the word lie.

Serious news organizations do not do this! They say "misleading." They say "pushing the envelope." If they’re feeling especially feisty, they might note, "Some say this is a lie." But they do not call what they believe to be a lie, a lie. At least not until the camera light goes off.

"The View" tends to get tossed into the category of "soft" media. But that raises the question, When "The View" gives an increasingly press-shy candidate his toughest interview in a while, when it and David Letterman prod the scars of the Democratic primary in interviews with Clinton, when pundits debate the fairness of Us Weekly covers and when Saturday Night Live crystallizes the discussion of sexism and vice-presidential choices, what’s so soft about them?

This campaign was tailor-made for "The View." Like the show, it is saturated with identity politics, it is driven by issues respectable journalists are uncomfortable discussing openly, and from time to time, it becomes something of a train wreck. From the primaries to Sarah Palin, 2008 has been a year of topics—from working motherhood to Americans’ inter- and intraracial attitudes—that the still mostly white and male journalistic élite have had to handle nervously with tongs.

Not so "The View," which has a personal-is-political philosophy and five women panelists, two of them African American. It jumped into the Palin controversies lustily, and in a June interview with Michelle Obama, Whoopi Goldberg raised the subject of the lack of media role models for dark-skinned black women. (Anyone who thinks that diversity in TV news is strictly a cosmetic issue should try to imagine Charlie Gibson asking about that.)

"The View’s" hosts (including executive producer Barbara Walters) get away with this because they do what the more fettered media believe they can’t: address issues people actually care about—as opposed to those the respectable media care about—and say what they actually think. Once upon a time, journalists’ circumspection was a source of authority; increasingly, it just seems like phoniness. And while traditional media are trying to adapt to a bloggier, more opinionated age, they’re still largely accustomed to the old standards of equivalency: the notion that if candidate X commits a transgression, "balance" requires that you find an equivalent from candidate Y—or at least an X supporter willing to claim one.

"The View" — like blogs, like Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert—has no such problem. Are its panelists biased? Sure! They talk about their opinions all day. Goldberg and Behar are plainly pro—Barack Obama; Elisabeth Hasselbeck is an avowed conservative. Yet their interviews are actually newsworthy; Behar got McCain to go on the record supporting his surrogates’ attack on Obama’s "lipstick on a pig" remark, and Hasselbeck, in a March interview, pressed Obama for seven minutes on the Rev. Jeremiah Wright controversy.

Granted, in that same interview

Walters called Obama "sexy," which would have been a mite awkward coming from Wolf Blitzer. And Goldberg asked McCain if his support of strict-constitutionalist judges meant that she should be worried about the return of slavery, apparently unaware that the Constitution does ban slavery. But there are still things that traditional journalism could learn from "The View."

First, that transparency works: you know what the panelists believe and can judge their work accordingly. (If anything, "The View" would benefit from Walters dialing down her studied neutrality even more.) Second, that you can speak truth to power and, if you have a following, power will still have to come back to reach your audience. (You could call this election’s crucial swing bloc Wal-Mart moms or mortgage moms—or you could just call them fans of "The View.") And finally, that a confrontational interview is not necessarily a bad one. (Similarly, Obama probably did himself more good in his combative interview with Fox’s Bill O’Reilly than in his softball talk with msnbc’s Keith Olbermann.)

Or in the words of Amy Poehler as Hillary Clinton—on that supposedly soft outlet SNL—"I invite the media to grow a pair." Of which there are five examples every weekday morning on ABC.

Reprinted by Permission, Time Magazine

Click here on this text to read my New York Post column.

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phyllis Doyle Pepe
Amy Goodwin should be given the Crown of Courage! I have such admiration for her. Thanks, Mugs.
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 10/04/2008 12:10 pm
Ms. Dee
ahem…Amy Goodman, Mugs. I watch her twice a day. She’s top of my list of women changing the world. Reassures me to know you’re a fan of hers too. And Laura Flanders… overall, I learn so much from FSTV. I’m so glad I get it here.
By Ms. Dee on 10/08/2008 12:05 am
Mugsy Peabody
I know I know I know!!!! I did that same thing on another thread and caught myself, but thank heaven it’s right on my blog. Oh, well. My DSL is down and I’m using dial-up again, and I have to tell you, it’s making me nucking futs!
By Mugsy Peabody on 10/08/2008 2:42 am
Ms. Dee
I knew you knew. Sorry about your techni-woes. I hate when that happens. “America’s flat broke and computers will go down,” has been my socio-political battle-cry for years. I’ve recently updated it to, “America’s in foreclosure and computers will go down.” Hope you get through the dilemma soon.
By Ms. Dee on 10/08/2008 8:40 am
Mugsy Peabody
Yep, it’s like we are in Soviet Russia — no one could do nuthing, no how. It took Comcast nearly six weeks to get my OnDemand to work, and I’ve spent almost four hours on the phone with AT&T convincing them that my modem under warranty does not work. (One clue was that the lights won’t light up, people…) Good thing we have all this technology to make our lives simpler. I finally broke down and got a second television for DVDs and VCR tapes, because no matter how I had it set up, it was a pain in the teakettle. (I do hope Ms. Goodman forgives me, and you, dear Ms. Dee, always stalwart!)
By Mugsy Peabody on 10/08/2008 11:57 am
Ms. Dee
The upside of these gadgets is, when they work, and we, the people, work with them, they certainly provide a forum that underscores the democratic process. XOXO
By Ms. Dee on 10/08/2008 12:18 pm
lois mackey
I watch the View…remorsefully. I sometimes enjoy the hot topics. I feel it’s like walking pass a window with the curtain pull back, you know you shouldn’t be peeping in but you do it anyway. I love the way Whoopi comes off philosophical when in essence the woman is obviously on medication. It is clear that she has some deep emotional stuff going-on. Joy Behar is mean and nasty…I don’t know if it’s menopausal or she’s just mean and nasty. She want a democrat to win so badly, that she’s literary leaning over to kiss Obama’s ass! Sherry is a poster child for abortions…as she so stated that she’s lost count of the number of her dilatation and extractions. . Elizabeth is young and idealistic…of course I’m on the opposite side of her political stance but you must admit the woman has spunk…she’s fighting hard against those old witches. I say give her time and she’ll find her way to the center. Bawa certainly have herself a motley crew! It is clear Bawa and her crew are liberals…and use the View to render as much support for Obama as one hour/five days a week can squeeze in.
By lois mackey on 10/04/2008 4:27 am
phyllis Doyle Pepe
Wow, Lois, those are some pretty fascinating observations. Speaking of Whoopi you say, “…when in essence the woman is obviously on medication.” When in essence?? Essence is the intrinsic nature or indispensable quality of something, especially abstract that determines its character. And you know this about Whoopi because? As far as your other assessments I can only say I marvel at your ability to slice and dice.
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 10/04/2008 12:23 pm
EKA -
I was just about to write the same thing and you got there before me ! Essense ??
By EKA - on 10/04/2008 6:36 pm
Freyja Valkurie
You are looking in a mirror.
By Freyja Valkurie on 10/04/2008 2:26 pm
Freyja Valkurie
Förlåta jag! My comment was intended for “Lois Mackey”.
By Freyja Valkurie on 10/04/2008 4:01 pm
Steve R
Wow, Belinda Luscombe was right: “When women get their hate on, they don’t just dislike, or find disfavor with, or sort of not really appreciate. They loathe — deeply, richly, sustainingly,” she said.
By Steve R on 10/04/2008 3:00 pm
Freyja Valkurie
Silly man. You cannot say this about more than 1/2 of the human race.
By Freyja Valkurie on 10/04/2008 4:02 pm
Steve R
I didn’t, Belinda did. And the article said men were “shallow”, not “silly”. I’ll admit to both, though. I do not like to limit myself. ;-)
By Steve R on 10/04/2008 7:46 pm
Steve R
This comment has broken loose from the one I was replying to. I was replying to lois mackey and her comments on the “The View” hosts - This just does not belong down here on it’s own. If I could delete it, I would. Sorry for the confusion.
By Steve R on 10/04/2008 8:06 pm