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Money | 02/24/2009 9:10 am

Bank of America Heiress: 'What Kind of Idiots Are Running That Bank?'

By The Staff at wowOwow.com
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A.P. Giannini, the man who founded Bank of America in the early 1900s, likely is "rolling over in his grave" over how the company he built has been managed, hypothesizes his granddaughter.

Virginia Hammerness, the 75-year-old heiress to the family’s banking fortune and a big stockholder, told CBS 5 in San Francisco (via Huffington Post) that the bank’s current "idiot" managers’ actions are "totally repulsive." More than that, they’re ruining her family’s legacy.

Giannini founded Bank of America (originally called Bank of Italy) in San Francisco’s North Beach in 1904 because he was upset that banks then usually only lent money and did business with rich clients. He wanted a place where the city’s immigrants could bank, as well. How did he judge each loan candidate? Not on their credit history, for sure. But rather, their character. Back in the good old Giannini days, she said, a mere handshake could secure a bank loan — and guaranteed repayment in full. Those days are clearly over.

Hammerness also had something to say about the $121 million in bonuses Merrill Lynch paid its executives just before its merger with Bank of America. Her family, insisted Hammerness, should have known then and there not to get involved. "Bank of America should have said ‘forget it," she said. As a side note, a judge on Monday said former Merrill CEO John Thain can disclose the names of people who got bonuses at that time, after New York Attorney General went to court to force him to give the information.

Click here to read Hammerness’s entire interview with CBS 5 and watch the video.

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PattyE
I sure wish I could take $1 and loan it out 31 times….like the banks did…but then…
By PattyE on 02/24/2009 9:27 am
JackBridge
Ms. Hammerness should buy some t-shirts at Killabanker.com, my new favorite Web site.
By JackBridge on 03/12/2009 11:14 pm
DeBrcaobj
In Ireland last Saturday about 10% of the population showed up in Dublin for a march protesting the misdeeds of the Banking system there… and I read nothing of it in my local papers. Does anyone think the American people will EVER wake up and see who it is they should be watching and criticizing over this economic mess we are in? Can you imagine if the American people actually DID wake up, stop blaming each other and the poor for their problems and rose up against these bankers and power elite running these institutions?!  THAT is why they don’t report what is happening around the world. Also, when you have people like Limbaugh and Hannity running a cult of brainwashed zombies who worship the wealthy and put down and begrudge the middle class and poor… you don’t get people like the ones in Dublin standing up for their rights and for what IS right.
By DeBrcaobj on 02/24/2009 9:55 am
PauletteClauss
Fear NOT Virginia, the legacy of your Grandfather is NOT MADE or broken by those who hold the purse strings of BoA today. His legacy was carved in stone with his handshake and the look in his eyes with every deal he made in his life time.
By PauletteClauss on 02/24/2009 10:16 am
CHardy

Working for BofA I have thought for a while now what A.P. Giannini would have to say about Ken Lewis and how banks are handling their clients today.

We are told that we are customers first and the associates feel that way but then to hear how our execs handle the top end of the bank.  Makes us sick to our stomachs. 

BofA has over 50 branches down in the Camen Islands and we all know there is propably money being hidden there and maybe the Congress can get to those funds.  I would love to see how much money is actually there being hidden away. 

I use to be proud to say I worked for BofA but now…I try not to let too many people know.

By CHardy on 02/24/2009 10:28 am
PattyE

Copied and pasted from another thread, that I posted this morning….but I thought it relevant to your question about hidden money .

Apparently, UBS and those other 60 tax havens, do not think this spotlight on their activiites is going to amount to much……in my email today was the following—- 

 

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In this issue:

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  • Seven reasons to invest offshore
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According to the World Bank, more than half of the world’s personal wealth - over $50 trillion - is stashed in about 60 or so asset and tax havens worldwide. 

More than a third of it is in Switzerland, comfortably secure in that nation’s bank vaults.  The rest is stashed away in Hong Kong, the Cayman Islands, Panama, Bermuda, the Isle of Man and other protected havens.

What do all these rich people know that you don’t?

By PattyE on 02/24/2009 1:10 pm
cajp
I feel a lot of these bankers should be sent to jail anyway, they have had a good run under the Bush admin with having no one checking on them for anything these past 8 years.  They should be held accountable now though and that would maybe make the people feel they are getting some kind of justice for these inept bankers.  Trying to make this Obama’s problem now is ludicrous…he has to deal with the problem now of course but this has been coming down the pipe for years and all to do with the wonder of the old guard notions of "no regulations"….boy, has that served this country well or what???
By cajp on 02/24/2009 10:37 am
CHardy

Did any of the banks have to answer to Clinton?  I just know that BofA has been riding high for years, more than 8 years now.  Yes things went CRAZY under Bush and I give koodos to Obama for trying to fix it…

Do I think the execs need to go to jail, of course, will they, NO

By CHardy on 02/24/2009 11:05 am
MsDee1
Common sense.  How refreshing. Ms. Hammerness.  Just wish you had more clout.
By MsDee1 on 02/24/2009 10:56 am
GrammaJ

This is what truly ate me up; I sat in the lunchroom here at work with three staunch conservatives who were grumbling about universal health care and calling it "socialism".  Of course this got me going; first off, I had to point out that socialism in and of itself is not a bad thing, without some form of it we would not have fire and police departments supported by our taxes.  Then I had to point out that I had been noticing for some time that all of our legislators in DC seemed to have NO PROBLEM with that "socialized medicine" when it was THEIR sorry *sses that were making use of it, it’s only when the rest of us speak up and say "hey, how about passing some of that on to me" that suddenly we get this uproar over "socialism" and "entitlement".  AND, the part that REALLY toasts me is, why shouldn’t every man, woman and child in this country feel entitled to health care?  In the US?  And how come wanting access to health care is an inappropriate sense of entitlement, but having your hand out for taxpayer dollars to keep the bank you screwed up from going under and then using those dollars to shell out BONUSES to the very people who sunk the dang boat is not? 

Of course they just shook their heads and left, because I "just don’t get it" and there is no point in trying to explain.  LOL!

By GrammaJ on 02/24/2009 11:35 am
PattyE

would you agree it is the ‘what’s mine is mine, and what’s yours is mine, too’? metality?

 

A couple of weeks ago, I had yet ANOTHER realtor to my home, to discuss selling my house—-again—-it is paid for, not in foreclosure, up to date and spiffy—nothing is broken—-even has a new roof, siding, furnace, appliances—-the works!  One could move right into it without haveing to do a darned thing to fix something—-unless they don;t like my carpet, or the white walls….so without even going thru the house, he gave me a ‘price’ which was 50% of the assessment I am being taxed on—-I told him it was unacceptable, and he told me that is all I can get for it—showed me flyers of other houses in my area within 1/2 mile……..Now I am no dummy—-I am on Zillow—-and that very morning, they sent me an email with the houses that sold, along with a ditty that my house had INCREASED in value from the month before!  AND—-the zillow site allowed me to show him that the house across the street—-which was not in his flyer pile, BTW—-had just sold in my preferred price range !!!!  He was tring to flip me.

 

Short story long…..As we talked, he said some things that tweaked my memory of a conversation from a few years ago.  I am sure I have mentioned this before—-but surprise surprise, when we ‘discovered’ that we had spoken to each other before—-I enquired about a piece of property he had for sale—and he bragged about getting GOVERNMENT GRANTS to pay for all the repairs and upgrades, he needed to do, to turn the property into a commercial property…..

 

THE RICH realtor—-who bought cheap to flip—-used GOVERNMENT and TAXPAYERS’ money, instead of his own…to repair the property and upgrade it!!!!!!! (He was embarrassed when I put it together, and then said to him that poor people didn;t have attorneys and accountants to write for the grants, for them, to get the free money) 

 

 

By PattyE on 02/24/2009 12:37 pm
LuckyLadyna
To DeBurca obj: I have been reading The Irish Times, The Manchester Guardian, etc. for the past year or two.  Last time we were in Ireland it seemed as if "upscaling" was perhaps going too quickly. It appeared that the "middle class" was ascending at an alarming scale.  Just pull up The Irish Times.com and you will see apartments on St. Stephen’s Green going for a million plus for a one bedroom l bath.  And be sure and read the blogs—they really tell you what is happening.
By LuckyLadyna on 02/24/2009 12:01 pm
ElizabethBennett

I love the story of how A.P. Gianinni set up a bank in the back of a carriage in San Francisco after the earthquake so that people could survive the days and weeks after the 1906 quake.  For quite some time he was the only bank in town.  After Bank of America moved its head offices out of San Francisco, I was worried that something bad like this would happen.  There have been too many mergers and acquisitions, and not enough attention to the details.  They acquired Countrywide and Merrill Lynch and previously had merged with Nations Bank and numerous others.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_America  The Countrywide and Merrill Lynch acquisitions weakened the bank rather than strengthening it.

Giannini’s granddaughter is right to be upset; the stock price plunged from something like $50 a share to something less than $5.  That is not the result you want from a merger!   

By ElizabethBennett on 02/24/2009 1:04 pm
BelindaJoy
Greed. It got us into this mess. Corporate greed, main street greed, everyone wanted more than they were entitled to and to some extent could afford, greed. I still say everything happens for a reason and as difficult as times are now, we should all learn from this. From the generic level of greed in terms of wanting an iPhone you can’t afford, to buying a house worth 20 times your income “just because everyone else is doing it”, to taking a multi-million dollar bonus when the bank you work for is going under…greed. It is indeed the root of all evil. I don’t blame Ms. Hammerness for being upset at the realization her family legacy as it relates to the bank they created is now embroiled in a financial scandal the likes our nation has never seen. And all because of greed….
By BelindaJoy on 02/24/2009 2:39 pm
amp

"A.P. Giannini, the man who founded Bank of America in the early 1900s, likely is "rolling over in his grave" over how the company he built has been managed, hypothesizes his granddaughter."

When I was a teenager I had something of an internship at very busy merchant BoA, with a 50 person teller line! On Fridays I used to be put at the head of the line because I was so fast, and was always balanced out and out the door in 10 minutes after the bank closed. 

The manager of the branch office was an extremely nice grandfatherly man who knew A.P. Gianinni and he made a point of everyone knowing, valuing and honoring the founder’s ethos, ethics and intentions. They even had Founder’s Day and the manager would tell stories including about the 06 Earthquake and what AP did, he’d been part of it too.

In San Francisco the gilded doors of the bank that AP built are on Grace Cathedral on Nob Hills. I used to live on Nob Hill and there was something substantial and sustaining about walking past Grace Cathedral and seeing those doors and knowing all they stood for.

 I was also exceedingly fortunate to work for EF Hutton when George Ball was at the helm. He was an is a highly ethical man who set unquestioned standards. I admired him and the company, and left when he did resigned, knowing that Robert Foman would trash the old and venerable institution, which he did. I rec’d a very nice email from Mr. Ball on 7/23 the day my brother died, saying that "EF Hutton was great place because of people like you."

America’s financial CEOs are shameful, greedy idiots. It started in the 80s when George Bush Sr and Sandy Weil ‘reorganized’ Wall Street according to their theiving ways. The M&As started, people were thrown out of their jobs, and everything was for a buck. Then in 2001 they got their greatest prize. Totally deregulated derivatives, and wrecked the US and global economy.

People often mistake a focused drive for making money with virtues that are not necessarily there: honor, decency, humanity, wisdom. Those were the qualities and values of A.P. Giannini and there are very few like him today—-and when they are needed very badly.

 

 

 

By amp on 02/24/2009 6:20 pm