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Entertainment | 02/13/2009 3:55 pm

Comments of the Week 2/7 - 2/13

By The Staff at wowOwow.com

Editor’s Note: The following comments have been edited for length.

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Comment to a Conversation on February 11
By margameri margameri on 02/11/2009 10:38 pm

In today’s column Tom Friedman quotes Shekhar Gupta, editor of The Indian Express saying (tongue in cheek, he says) "All you need to do is grant visas to 2 million Indians, Chinese, and Koreans. We will buy up all the subprime homes. We will work 18 hours a day to pay for them. We will immediately improve your savings rate - no Indian bank today has more than 2% non-performing loans because not paying your mortgage is considered shameful here. And we will start new companies to create our own jobs and jobs for more Americans."

My husband, an online Nepalese journalist, has been saying this for months. Just allow the undocumented Nepalese and others who are already here, working 7 days a week, living in the shadows and saving their money, to receive green cards and one day achieve the citizenship they dream of. They have been saving, and long to own homes. They are entrepreneurial, they work hard, husbands, wives, aunts, uncles, cousins together. They make sure their children are educated and disciplined. They exemplify "family values." I know - my social network is largely in the Nepali community, where I am called "Didi" (sister), and showered with warmth and affection.

Immigration has been a large part of the core of this nation, yet in this bailout congress is stupidly disallowing the employment of high-skilled H1Bvisa holders by the bailed-out. To quote Friedman again:" We need to attack this financial crisis with green cards, not just greenbacks, and with start-ups not just bailouts."

What we ARE doing is swooping up immigrants in raids, separating families, locking people up in detention centers then deporting them after months or years of imprisonment. Who do you think pays for all this? Well over $100/day per detainee, flights to all parts of the world accompanied by 2 officers per deportee (except for those who die while in custody from lack of proper treatment or suicide) and overnight hotels for the accompanying officers all paid for by our tax money.

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Comment to a Post on February 13
By Mommy Dearest on 02/12/2009 1:26 pm

"The good news is that today inflation is practically nonexistent. Oil prices have collapsed, and other commodities have retrenched as well. That could change, especially as the government ramps up spending and the money supply continues to expand. However, since utilization rates in the economy are low and there are millions looking for jobs, prices and wage rates will likely stay under pressure, containing inflation."

Liz, my dear, I cannot envision inflation staying under wraps as the Treasury prints money for an $800-ish billion stimulus package coupled with the multi-trillion dollar bank bailout.

Back when Mommy learned economics (and dinosaurs roamed the earth), governments that spent their way out of an economic downturn always found themselves in an inflationary environment.

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Comment to a Book Post on February 10
By Patrice Baldwin on 02/10/2009 10:13 pm

I’ve always steered clear of ‘just sex’ because it’s generally boring and I’ve had better. It’s necessary to have some kind of relationship, whether it’s an old friend or someone you’ve known for a while. During the 60s in Hollywood when everyone was doing it with everyone else, I had enough of that at Hollywood parties. I can remember the last one I went to in Malibu. I came into the party, said hello to the host, an old friend, looked around and went home.
I actually had a lovely young mentor (or I think it was really the other way ‘round) who visited me recently. I had high hopes for a weekend of fun, but it wasn’t to be. First he was wildly allergic to my dog; sneezed and snizzeled the whole time. Then it was decidedly difficult to ‘splain to my Great Dane that her spot on the bed wasn’t to be hers. In fact she didn’t take it well, and made a big fuss all night. The second night I thought, "Well, if she can’t be convinced, she should perhaps join ‘em." Turns out she was way too interested in other things going on than sleeping on her corner of the bed. It ended up in a well packed threesome with a lot of sneezing. I think I’ll have to think it over again.

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Comment to a Post on February 12
By elaine s on 02/12/2009 2:38 pm

So this is equality?

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Comment to The Question of the Day on February 13
By Count Snarkula on 02/13/2009 4:11 pm

5 more minutes with my Mother.

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Comment to a Post on February 6 (Sorry we missed this comment last week but it’s still worth recognizing)
By Susan B on 02/06/2009 3:46 pm

Diana, I believe the problem here — in this forum — is that it is a blog: anonymous and safe. And I don’t believe WoW, or any other blog, is truly representative of the voices and ideas of the country at large, it is representative of those of us who are of strong opinions and compelled to express ourselves. The so-called blogosphere a small sample, really, and we delude ourselves if we think otherwise or believe we can move mountains with our single opinions. At our best, we’re sharing experiences and tossing ideas back and forth with humor and an open mind. At our worst, we’re people who are in need of a fight or a place to vent our frustrations.

In "real life," I experience far more people interacting civilly, thoughtfully and with a generosity of spirit. We discuss most of the same topics, but we do so with restraint and care. We look each other in the eye, smile, tear-up, and touch.

On a blog, our humanity is reduced to words. There are plenty of very smart women here on WoW, but I also sense a high degree of personal disenfranchisement and social disconnection. So it’s good to be able to reach out to others like we do here — but I think we often forget how fortunate we are to be able to do so and take each other for granted.

(OK, Sully, help me land this plane.) What I’m trying to offer, is the idea that the people of this country are really not so different in the big picture. But on a blog or the mass media or in congress, commonality is not going to distinguish anyone, and so will never be adequately celebrated and leveraged for good. Diana, take hope in what you experience as you bump into each other on the sidewalk, stand next to each other in a line, or find in a smile from a stranger. We are together in so many ways, but politics is and always has been the great divider and on a blog — where we are literally on the same page — it’s a 24/7 experience that’s stoking the problem rather than bringing consensus. Our forbears would be hamstrung by this, I’m sure.

I wish we could put away the negativity, but it’ll never happen on Wow. Still, I’d like to think we could all try harder.

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Green Tears
Well done,all! Mommy, you are precious!
By Green Tears on 02/13/2009 4:09 pm
Frannie Em
Great comments by all. So glad you include Susan B’s comment. When it was first posted I read it twice because of the strength laced with delicate honesty was so poignant. I love when Mommy Dearest gives us a long post, I always read them. Everyone’s posts were so apt. Thanks.
By Frannie Em on 02/13/2009 4:24 pm
Agyness O
Great comments this week…each and every one. I am also glad that wow looked back to last week for Susan B’s words which were “spot on” and beautifully written with such grace.
By Agyness O on 02/13/2009 4:50 pm
J Boylynn

Isn’t it true, Agy, that some people speak so well and in so few words!  It was possible to hear the gentle voice expressing these kind words, and I think she was right about most blogs simply being a forum for some lonely or bored people to vent.  The anonymity does in fact NOT help the tone of the expressions, right?  Some people hide behind the veil and say things I do not believe they would say to someone’s face, or they would lose face.

 

Thanks again for your prescient expressions.

 

JBoylynn

By J Boylynn on 02/23/2009 4:01 pm
joan larsen
Susan . . . You said much more beautifully and well than most of us could what I truly believe that most of us think … and I think we all have to thank you for that - and so glad that this was printed once again for all to see and think about. Joan
By joan larsen on 02/13/2009 5:09 pm
Brooklyn Gal
Thank you Susan. I was away last week, and when I came back to WoW, I found myself overwhelmed by a hateful comment about Obama, Democrats and the Gay community all rolled up in one comment and having others agree with it. I am extremely glad many people are no longer commenting on “those threads”, but to see Marlo’s touching article highlighting the efforts of an American playwright helping the rape victims in the Congo getting less than 20 comments, I am left stunned by the lack of sensitivity and humanity by the people who visit this site.
By Brooklyn Gal on 02/13/2009 5:32 pm
alex harvey
Wake up to the real world you’ve chosen. That is what the people that have folowed Barack Hussein and also find it fine to bad mouth our former president get. Did you think people that don’t support Barack Hussein were just just going to sit around and let this happen. Just because my correct opinions regarding Barack Hussein and gay marriage may differ from yours, doesn’t mean I should be attacked. People on this blog talk about Palin and Coulter. The Congo will get nothing from these women.
By alex harvey on 02/14/2009 6:12 pm
Frannie Em
I am sorry Alex, but your post does not make any sense. Unless you are prepared to illustrate you understanding or misunderstanding of policy issues, I don’t get it. What do you mean by “Did you think people that don’t support Barack Hussein were just going to sit around and let this happen.” Let what happen? Your post sounds so omniscient, but it doesn’t make any sense. I am trying to understand, but I can’t cut through your fear.
By Frannie Em on 02/14/2009 7:40 pm
alex harvey
I’m speaking about people like you that bad mouth Bush, or Palin. Its Barack Husseins turn to be bad mouthed. I’m sure you don’t understand Obama either. You here him speak, then cry or faint. There is no fear on my side. Barack Hussein and the democrats are the best show in town.
By alex harvey on 02/17/2009 5:13 pm
Kris Merrill
Try spellcheck if you aren’t bright enought to spell on your own. Did you mean "here" or "hear"?
By Kris Merrill on 02/17/2009 7:11 pm
Serena .
Oh, Kris, he doesn’t know!
By Serena . on 02/23/2009 4:06 pm
Kris Merrill
Got it Serena! I won’t "waist" -  waste my time or attention again!
By Kris Merrill on 02/23/2009 4:45 pm
Frannie Em

Alex

Your are obviously not very familiar with my posting habits.   As Commander in Chief, Bush was my son’s boss, therefore to avoid any embarrassment my son would have of me, or put my son in a bad position, you won’t find much bad mouthing of him from me, although I do have a right to an opinion whether it be positive or negative.

If you don’t like others to post extreme or put down views, then don’t post them yourself.  You do your cause a disfavor, people will just ignore you.  Maybe you should read more of my posts to understand where I am coming from before you judge me.  Don’t you think there is too much judgement on this site.  If you don’t want it here, don’t put it here.

By Frannie Em on 02/19/2009 7:35 pm
J Boylynn

Alex,

Perhaps ommitting the use of the word "you" would be of benefit to all in this forum.  I think readers get sensitive to the negaitve tone, rightly or not intended at all, when it may simply be a visceral reaction. 

Can  you envision going back to using the old English usage of "one", as in "I am speaking of those who bad mouth Bush or Palin." or in another use: "One cannot imagine a sucessful country with heads of state such as we see in the current President." 

Please try civility.  It will add to the conversational tone of WOW and may draw back those who have left, for the caustic tone it had taken on in the most recent past.

 

JBoylynn

By J Boylynn on 02/23/2009 4:07 pm
Diana T
This is the conversation that occurred on Charlie Rose last year about how wow started. http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/9028 I’m hoping that we will all work harder to be polite and civil to each other and agree to disagree, not try to pillory each other.
By Diana T on 02/13/2009 5:41 pm