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Dear Margo | 03/05/2009 11:00 pm

Dear Margo: Yoo-Hoo! We All Hate Her!

What’s a woman to do when she and the rest of her family hate her cousin’s fiancee? Margo Howard’s words of wisdom …
Margo Howard

Yoo-Hoo! We All Hate Her!

DEAR MARGO: My cousin’s fiancee is one of the most unpleasant, selfish, obnoxious women my husband and I have ever met. We’ve gone from seeing my cousin weekly to avoiding any possible interactions with the fiancee. We assumed the relationship wouldn’t last, but were dismayed when they announced their engagement. Since then, various relatives, including his siblings, have approached me with concerns about the quality of this person he is going to marry. We all agreed we would want to be told, however … we are not sure how to approach the topic and wonder if it is just too late (six months until the wedding). The idea was to write a letter signed by all seven of us, saying we will be there no matter what, but expressing our feelings. What should we do? —- CONCERNED COUSIN

DEAR CON: Not everyone would agree with me, but I actually like the idea of the letter signed by everyone — and six months is plenty of time. He may not take your advice; he may, in fact, cut you off. But you all will have acted in what you felt to be his best interest. There’s always the chance that he will avoid you seven as though you had typhoid, or … he may rethink his engagement. Just to prepare you, most people who decide they’ve found "the one" are not susceptible to others’ opinions. Do not ask me how I know this. —- MARGO, HISTORICALLY

That Was Then, This Is Now

DEAR MARGO: Several years ago, "Beatrice" and I dated. It didn’t work out (no fireworks) and she married a decent guy. I kept in touch via telephone/Internet with both her and her husband through the years. Almost a year ago, she called and told me they were separating and she’d always wondered what we would be like together. I dismissed the idea, both because she was married and because I didn’t think we were couple material. Yet when she asked to meet up just to chat, sparks flew. We’re better matched now than we were years ago, and I feel a connection with her that was missing back then. My problem is that her divorce isn’t final and her husband doesn’t know about us, although her parents and several of her friends do. I feel like we’re sneaking around. When is it "OK" to formally date? Does it have to be the minute the ink dries on the divorce decree? A discreet month later? Is there any moral difference between fooling around now and waiting until the pen strikes paper? Plus, part of me is scared that if her marriage fell apart because she fell out of love with him, what’s to prevent the same thing from happening to me? —- KIND OF ON THE FENCE

DEAR KIND: Many people who don’t seem suited to one another at a particular time in their lives come together, later, as a much better match — a reignited match, if you will. (Hence, all the couples who re-meet at school reunions and go for it.) As for when it’s proper to date, these days it is customary to be able to date when you are no longer living with your spouse — and even sometimes if you are both in the same house because the other person won’t move out. As for your fear that this woman might fall out of love with you, too, I can offer no guarantees — nor can she. Follow your heart, my friend, and take your chances, like the rest of us. —- MARGO, FATEFULLY

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71 Reader Comments (so far…) Sign In or Register to comment

Avery Ash
Oh, my gosh — I love your advice to "on the fence." Life is so short and so full of opportunities. We can either spend our time keeping score and building fences, or we can learn and love again.
By Avery Ash on 03/05/2009 11:34 pm
Debbie Learman

My nephew married his one and only g/f,  the month after graduation. Both 18.  she’s stayed self-centered, extremely obnoxious, disgusting, big-mouth, selfish…he’s going to college, working, and basically lives a single lifestyle, as she is never around and never makes a meal for him.  No children! They are divorcing!  this would have been year 9…I say; Thank you God, an answer to prayer……most of the family is doing the "happy dance"…do I send him a Congrats on getting rid of the bitch?

 

By Debbie Learman on 03/06/2009 12:39 am
Malache Deux
She may have been completely the wrong choice for your nephew, but saying ‘I told you so’ right now is likely only to earn you a one-way ticket out of his life. Your family member doesn’t want to hear how wrong they were, they just need support in a time like a divorce. Send him a condolence, because for however happy this makes you, a failed marriage never is a time to gloat.
By Malache Deux on 03/06/2009 11:30 am
Bella Mia
So I guess you were hoping from the beginning that it would fail because you could see that it was a bad match to begin with.  That makes perfect sense.
By Bella Mia on 03/07/2009 12:25 pm
Annette Smith

I would definitely consider having an "intervention" for the cousin about to marry a completely unsuitable person, but by no means would I ever consider signing a letter detailing all the reasons why she is so unsuitable.  Should they marry anyway, that letter may well fan flames of bitterness and hatred that will last for decades.  and if, after a few years of marriage, she became a bit more tolerable, then discovery of that letter would make family relations even more uncomfortable.

I think, given the circumstances, the person who needs to be spoken to would be the fiancee.  Have a very frank talk with her, one on one, be honest about what it is about her that hurts the family, drives you crazy, whatever, and each take your turn.

If that doesn’t scare her away, she may really love the cousin, so leave them alone.

Just my opinion!

By Annette Smith on 03/06/2009 12:53 am
Bella Mia

The interventions do not work.  They simply think that you do not understand the real person.  I thought I could convince my brother that he should not vote for Obama and showed him proof of disasterous fiscal and social policies, and the effect of those policies on the City of Chicago, and it’s schools and dangerous neighborhoods.  Facts didn’t matter.

 He’s a big pro-gun control advocate too.  I said look at Juarez Mexico where it is illegal for citizens to own guns - they had 1600 murders in one year - in one town.  Facts didn’t matter.

He’s pro-government controlled heath care so I sent him dozens of stories of Canadian and British government boards refusing to provide drugs to cancer patients and people waiting 4-6 months for cancer treatments.  Facts don’t matter. 

For some people, in love and in politics, facts don’t matter. 

By Bella Mia on 03/07/2009 12:32 pm
Dan Rivers

@ Debbie Learman

Good grief, no!  Even the breakup of a bad marriage is painful.  Your nephew invested a lot of time and love into something that, unfortunatly, didn’t work out.  Where you lay the blame and whether or not you liked his wife is irrelevent, for him, it still hurts, because at some point, he loved her.  Badmouthing her now will just deepen the wound.  Do you happy dance quietly and in private, and to him offer sympathy for a dream that has died.

By Dan Rivers on 03/06/2009 1:01 am
Debra F
Concerned cousin should be cautious sending a letter regarding the fiance who is considered unpleasant, selfish, obnoxious—Does the fiance behave this way only when her fiance isn’t around? Have you spoken to her about what you find  unpleasant or obnoxious? Maybe she doesnt realize some of her behaviors have offended you. I had a friend who began to constantly talk negatively and swore frequently, who really wasnt aware of how often she did that until I brought it to her attention (and laughingly counted the number of swears she used in a ten minute conversation—22). If you have talked to her, and she continues, sending a letter to your cousin about your concerns may help highlight who he is about to marry, but my experience has found letters sent with the intent to inform are frequently misinterpreted by the reader—and lead to further misunderstandings. If you feel so strongly, you should talk with your cousin face to face so no misunderstandings will happen. Do you know anything about the fiance? Perhaps there is a reason you view her as you do: Different upbringing, different standards of behavior, fiance going through a difficult time, etc. If the fiance behaves in the same manner while your cousin is also in the same room, then he already knows about and tolerates the behavior. The only thing to do then is try to arrange visits and outings excluding her, and give your reasons if asked. Just remember that everyone can be considered obnoxious, selfish, and sometimes unpleasant to someone in the world. Don’t lose your cousin over misunderstandings, incomplete information, or what you think his standards should be. 
By Debra F on 03/06/2009 1:28 am
Tressa Turner
Never put anything in writing. One of the golden rules I live by.
By Tressa Turner on 03/06/2009 4:15 am
georgia fatwood
Hi T….I don’t know who said this……"Do right, fear no man. Don’t write, fear no woman…."
By georgia fatwood on 03/06/2009 10:04 am
Sharon Moore
Margo, I think you’ve made a mistake on your advice to the first writer. This kind of group intervention is very alienating, particularly in a letter. It doesn’t say why the fiance is so objectionable but the cousins might try to accept her ito the family and see if love helps her to change. I doubt all those cousins are perfect themselves and I think they might do better by looking within instead of judging her so harshly (but I only say that not knowing how bad she could really be). In any case, it is cruel to write a letter. The cousin will feel completely unsupported - and who is he supposed to invite to his wedding now? The whole family has been talking about him behind his back. He won’t know how far it extends - to his aunts, uncles, parents? What a bunch of cowards to sign a letter, "we hate your fiance!" Any of them who will sign a letter ought to agree instead to sit down with him over coffee instead - perhaps separately, in a way that isn’t intimidating; in a loving way. The guy’s not an drug addict who needs to be scared straight. They ought to at least give him the courtesy of looking him in the eye if they have something to say. Otherwise, they ought to mind their own business and practice kindness and acceptance and see what happens.
By Sharon Moore on 03/06/2009 5:23 am
Jazzy JJ

Margo, We have the same situation in our family, NO ONE in the family likes our sons girlfriend! After 4 years rather then fight it we came to this decision… HE LOVES HER & IT’S HIS LIFE!  We as a family have started over by accepting who he loves and support him by not finding fault and trying to see the good rather then ganging up on her and only seeing her faults.  If they marry it is his decision to make not ours!  I called his brothers & sisters and said "It’s his life, lets support him rather then create all this negativity about his choice. 

 

By Jazzy JJ on 03/06/2009 6:20 am
Michele S
Good for you Jazzy!
By Michele S on 03/06/2009 10:09 am
Malache Deux
Good going Jazzy. It takes a long time sometimes to see you’re not in control in that situation. It’s excellent you went the further step to help with the siblings grousings and calmed those waters. What a good parent you are!
By Malache Deux on 03/06/2009 11:33 am
Jazzy JJ

Malache, Thank you for your compliment! (we have been away with a family emergency or I would have been back to you sooner) I guess one never gets done being a parent, many times I stumble around trying to figure out the best way to help. Sometimes it works, sometimes not so much. I’m blessed my children love me and look to me for advice, they don’t always follow it and thats a good thing because I am their sounding board and  they have to lead their own lives and do that which best works for them. 

By Jazzy JJ on 03/13/2009 5:30 pm