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Money | 09/16/2008 11:08 am

Financial Crisis Reader Forum

Friday, Sept. 19: Wall Street opened with a roaring rally Friday after news that the U.S. government is creating a plan to rescue troubled banks from their souring debts. Has our White Knight finally arrived? Or, is doom still on the horizon?

Tuesday, Sept. 16: The stock market is currently holding its own on Day Two of the current financial crisis brought on by the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers. However, the situation is volatile and there are many questions as to what’s next.

Here is a forum for the wowOwow audience to weigh in on all of the dramatic goings-on on Wall Street, at the Fed and at the White House…as well as those who want to inhabit the White House in January 2009.

More on wowOwow on the financial crisis:

Will the Government’s Cure for the Credit Crisis Save Us, or Cost Us? by Liz Peek

Stocks Soar on News of U.S. Government Bank Bailout

The US Government Rescue Plan and the Financial Crisis, by Liz Peek
 
Is My Money Safe? 3 Ways to Check

Federal Reserve to Meet as Wall Street, World Markets Keep Tumbling

Sorry Lehman, AIG Is Rescued by the Fed

AIG News: AIG Credit Downgrade, Shares Plummet, Federal Reserve Steps In

Amid Lehman Crisis, AIG, Stock Plummets, Mayor Bloomberg and Governor Paterson Send Mixed Messages

Washington Mutual Solvency Fears Grow as Standard & Poor’s Downgrades its Credit Rating

Wilbur Ross Tells CNBC That "A Thousand Regional Banks Could Fail;" FDIC Basics for Depositors

66 Reader Comments (so far…) Sign In or Register to comment

John G
Crooks leading leads to crooks operating leads to crooks trying to make fast $$$ before they’re noticed leads to financial instability leads to the average investor being screwed. Bottom line, BUY LOW, SELL HIGH! Not the reverse…
By John G on 09/16/2008 12:04 pm
Babette dYveine
Right — and McCain says the economy (which he admits he knows little about) is doing fine. Vote for him and get four more years of the same, if the country can last four more years!
By Babette dYveine on 09/16/2008 12:15 pm
Diana T
What I believe is happening here is proof that an economics model is failed. In order for free trade to work, there has to be rules set in place; otherwise, it hurts both Wall Street and our street. For too long, there has been a habit of opacity, money juggling and not investing capital into these acquistions, and manipulating oversight commiteess , and so they are caving in under their own weight. We are going to have to take supply side economics, dissect it, save the good parts and reject the antiquated parts, remembering that the purpose of investments is not only for the shareholders, but to make this country prosper for the Greater Good. That is the purpose of rules. There’s nothing wrong with being rich, filthy rich if you work hard enough, but for gods sake, you simply cannot do it on the backs of the rest of us. I believe strongly that every time there is some sort of disater, be it personal or public, that there are lessons to be learned and that there is always The Law Of Unintended Consequences. We are watching that law at work at this very moment. Hopefully, it will also work when we can unite ourselves with a common purpose and design our economic model to fit today’s world, and to enforce honesty. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/28/mccain-adviser-phil-gramm-shaped-mcc…
By Diana T on 09/16/2008 12:18 pm
Agyness O
Right! And, the best thing we all can do for now is stay calm and put on the seat belt for what we know is going to be a bumpy ride. We aren’t even sure where it will take us but we know we will get there…the length of the trip is the question.
By Agyness O on 09/16/2008 2:09 pm
Diana T
You’re right Agyness, I said the other day to fasten your seatbelts. Frankly, I have never been a fan of the “supply side economic” model because I really do not see the trickle down effect it is supposed to sustain for long periods. I have always ranted against de-regulation when it is as flagrant as now. And, I have heard for some time the experts worrying about the lack of oversight. This is why I worry about this Gov. of Alaska, when I read about her secrecy that she displays in her administration. We have already seen the consequences of that in this Bush/Cheney White House. And, I just believe it has to stop now. It does sound like Bernake and Paulson, for the moment are letting the chips fall where they may, and I think they are correct, at least for the time being. Paulson has left the door open for more shoring up if necessary, but for now, I have the feeling that this is going to have to shake itself out.
By Diana T on 09/16/2008 2:20 pm
C A Rose
Ditto Agyness! Diana, I couldn’t agree with you more. I also worry abt the Governor from Alaska…when she is off script (rarely) she is quite scarey about what she does and doesn’t know about having a world economic view. Time will tell, CA
By C A Rose on 09/19/2008 3:28 am
Diana T
If the heads of the Congress and the Senate can look at us and tell us they don’t know what to do, and, even Paulson and Bernanke are befuddled, how can anyone think she would even understand the mechanics of what is going on? This, to me, makes it even more important to check and see who is advising both campaigns because, chances are, they are the ones that are put in Cabinet and under-secretary jobs. That is why I feel better when I see people like Lawrence Summers and Robert Rubin on the Obama team. And, I feel the same about foreign affairs. I wonder if she if knows where Yemin is when she is off script.
By Diana T on 09/19/2008 7:07 am
Patty E
The crash of 1929 resulted in a law making it illegal to ‘borrow’ money inorder to invest in the stock market. Even when I opened my trading account, I had to check a box, that said I was using my own money, and that it was not ‘borrowed’ money. Some lessons need to be learned more than once, apparently. This market is a mess. Corruption is everywhere. Greed has ecome King, and at the expense of the average person, as you have pointed out, Diana. I urge those seriously interested in pushing for reform, to read over the Deep Capture story regarding Overstock.com. The corruption and collusion is so deep, that if someone seeks ‘discovery’ and transparency, those such as Phil Graham and the CEO’s that seem to be running our country, have created all sorts of ‘rules’ and ‘law’, preventing investigation on the Federal Level. In other words, one must work through a State court, inorder to get full transparency on who did what—-which is what Byrne did, so that he could prove his case. There are laws against selling what does not belong to you. In most of the world, one would go to jail. In the US stockmarket, it is a common practice. There are laws against fraud in most of the world. In the US markets fraud is rampant, and that is why small towns in Norway can go bankrupt, as a result of the fraud, yet be told “it’s not my problem” by the very person who sold the investment package to that town. Fraud used to be a crime. There are laws and rules regarding oversight of the Stock Markets. The SEC is responsible for enforcing those laws and rules. This past two years, instead of enforcing those rules, the SEC has fired those who question the lack of oversight. We have a good ‘ol boy system, that has very little regard for the citizen of America. Had Bush been able to force transfer of Social Security benefits to the stock market, there would be even a bigger disaster than there is today. Thank goodness he was unsuccessful.
By Patty E on 09/16/2008 1:19 pm
John G
Patty E, I can truthfully say that if George had changed Social Security so the individual contributor controls the investment of the funds which will be “awarded” to him/her at the appropriate age, my pot-o-gold would’ve been very much larger than what it will be with the government controlling the investment. I do not need anybody helping me invest for the future, particularly if their help is counterproductive. So, looking at it from my point of view, it’s a barrel of rotten apples spoiling the few good ones - just because the vast majority of potential Social Security recipients cannot/will not learn to invest wisely, those of us who can/have are screwed!
By John G on 09/16/2008 3:47 pm
Patty E
Hank Greenberg has offered to help save his old company, AIG, and they REJECTED his offer of money! Just out on CNBC. What would be the motive, for AIG, to reject a no-strings offer of assistance to keep the company above water? What is it, that AIG does not want known, that they are willing to put the whole country and other parts of the world at risk?
By Patty E on 09/16/2008 1:30 pm
Patrice Baldwin
It wasn’t enough, Patty. The government will have to back them up. But that’s the end of Uncle Sam paying for gluttonous bastards. I watched Charlie Rose today. He had on five very high end, intelligent men to analyze and try to explain the mess on Wall Street and the world. The whole thing is based on GREED & LIES. After listening to these men for an hour, I nearly cried. What a depressing bunch of rapacious money grubbers we have running our economy.
By Patrice Baldwin on 09/16/2008 8:12 pm
Patty E
Was that the program that originally aired last night? I watched it last night and felt the same way—I am just waiting for the shoe to drop on Morgan Stanley, as predicted last night . 2 hours to go before Charlie shows here, tonight!
By Patty E on 09/16/2008 9:02 pm
K O
I’m confused. Morgan Stanley posted profits that beat Wall St expectations handily.
By K O on 09/17/2008 9:21 am
Diana T
Kitty, This doesn’t look good at all. The markets have just closed much lower, hitting the financials particularly badly. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aaWAsCTFd3iM&refer=h… And, apparently there is a meeting going on right now at the SEC regarding improper short sales. If what I think is happening indeed happens, how does this affect our basic money market funds? Or does it.
By Diana T on 09/17/2008 3:09 pm
K O
Hi Patrice, Are you referring to the program with Lawrence Summers, Josh Rosner, Andrew Ross Sorkin, Nouriel Roubini and Charlie Gasparino? I thought they all agreed that the financial problems were rooted in taking on too much debt and the inability to price mortgage backed securities. I heard mention of hubris and ego, but didn’t catch any accusations of greed or lies. Do you remember who said that?
By K O on 09/17/2008 9:33 am