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The Love Goddess | 10/15/2008 2:15 pm

One Online Dating Mistake Grown Women Too Often Make

Editor’s Note: Who is the wisest of them all? Who is more dedicated to your pleasure than anyone on earth? Who can help you when you’re going online for the first time to find love; or when your lover’s children hate you; or when you want to strangle your husband? Why, the Love Goddess, of course. She promises nothing less than celestial wisdom, heavenly sex, divine dating. Read on …

For every woman who has had success meeting someone lovely online, dozens don’t.

And it’s not because the men are so treacherous out there, but rather, sometimes, online "meeting" requires wildly different skills from meeting someone at, say, a dinner party — and the advertising process simply fizzles. Sexy as online copy pretends to be, dating sites are inherently a rough environment for grown women not used to blaring out information about themselves to people they haven’t met.

So, as if following orders they don’t want to follow, many women create profiles in the tone of a would-be beauty queen presenting themselves in front of a panel of judges; or, worse, trying to prove their value ("Fit, thin, interested in life, loves active sports … ") in a marketplace that seems only to value models and teen vocalists. The best profiles, to my mind, are subtle and vaguely private, even withholding. Like the best short stories, they stick to the structure asked for (Self-Presentation and Request) but then depart from the form in order to convey a real voice. Your voice.

You’re asking publicly for something very private — someone to spend time with — and the point isn’t to sell yourself (really: don’t spend much time on the Self-Presentation part; you can get stuck there, as though you’re a well-cared-for-but-used Cuisinart looking for a buyer. You wouldn’t reveal at a dinner party that you have four children, a law degree, two former husbands and that at age 50 you’re toned, have traveled around the world and love to read — would you? All at once? Who would ask that much? Who would care?).

No, the point is to locate IN yourself something you may not even have articulated: what you want.

And I don’t mean whether that’s a man that is this age or that weight, but instead what you like in a guy’s being, his character. What would attract you if you were meeting him tonight. Is he quiet or outgoing? Is he laid-back or type A? (You can be quiet and type A; outgoing and laid-back.)

Only you know which you like, and only your voice has a unique, gentle, idiosyncratic way of framing it.

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HA BIBI
I know that many people find it amusing and have even claimed they found their one true love, via internet dating. It has not ever appealed to me as I find that through my life it was of more importance to meet someone face to face rather than through a machine. Plus the fact of someone putting out all their personal information about themselves, that I don’t believe is anybody’s buisness unless, in the process of having met them face to face, would they even deserve the right to know. It may work for some, but was never my gig.
By HA BIBI on 10/15/2008 2:57 pm
James the Game
I agree, Elaine. I have gone into chatrooms, and the ones I’ve been in, any way, seem to be full of teenagers. I’m sure there are sites that aren’t, but I haven’t found any, so I stopped trying. Like you say, better to meet face-to-face. Plus, for every love story there’s a horror story, it seems. It’s too easy for people to hide behind lies online, although they can do it in person, too. But, in person, you can read someone’s face, etc. Speaking of not lying, your Vikings whipped my lousy Lions last Sunday, Elaine. The wheels have come completely off in Detroit. Cheers.
By James the Game on 10/15/2008 3:35 pm
HA BIBI
Yepper James, I think not only teenagers but pedophiles, married men, married women and the list of undesirables goes on and on. You will fare better off meeting people face to face and like I said, I don’t think peoples intentions are insincere when they are looking for a life partner, it’s just all the hooey and BS, that those who are honorable, have to go through, with the idiots that are out there. I’ve never done it and thank God for my wonderful husband, I don’t have to look there or anywhere for that matter, But I have a dear friend who has had really bad luck with it by meeting a ton of unfortunate loosers, LOL. I know kiddo, I posted you about the Lions loss to my Vikes on the other thread, can’t remember which one it was tho. But hey, the seasons not over yet and anything is possible…You’re Lions may win a game and my Vikes may win the Superbowl, LOL……….Just kiddin buddy! :)
By HA BIBI on 10/15/2008 4:40 pm
James the Game
Ha! Yeah, I read your other post.
By James the Game on 10/15/2008 8:00 pm
Sharon Belko
I certainly don’t qualify as an expert (once is not enough!) and I was not “internet dating” - with a .com service etc - just in a chat room and saw his curious “handle”. We started IMing, then phoning and this went on for six weeks before I agreed to meet him (me - the scaredly cat because I KNEW our age difference). We met - danced to Nat King Cole’s Unforgettable for the first dance - he looked into my eyes - and I knew instantly that I never wanted him to stop. That was slmost 7 years ago and even though I had been through with men before we met - the old adage that “love comes when you’re not looking for it” has certainly been true in my case. (Haven’t been in a chat room since!!!!!)
By Sharon Belko on 10/15/2008 3:09 pm
Kryssi K
This is so true - ASK MY MOTHER, a now EX Match.com member! Four consecutive HORRIBLE relationships in the past year because of that stuff. These men possessed severe personality disorders that even I could sense just being in their presences and having brief/casual chatty exchanges. I hated watching her get so stressed out and depressed…it even began to affect MY moods. They all made her feel as though something was wrong with HER, despite having plenty of other decent and/or healthy relationships BEFORE the Match.com drama. One day she recently admitted, “I guess if they’re so desperate that they have to resort to online dating instead of REALLY putting themselves out there, it’s no surprise there’s something wrong with them”. FINALLY, she gets it, I thought! Cancelled her membership. Regained her sanity.
By Kryssi K on 10/15/2008 3:26 pm
Kryssi K
And by the way, I said four relationships, but there were countless FIRST DATES which ended in my mother’s frustration that most of the men she met on Match.com were expecting immediate, erm, action……………
By Kryssi K on 10/15/2008 3:28 pm
Diana T
I had 4 first “dates”—-each one lied about their age and all of them “returned” to their previous relationships. I do have a friend in Columbus, Oh. and see him from time to time, but he is not available for a serious relationship. I would warn anybody who is tempted to do online dating. Make sure you check them out carefully before you ever make arrangements to meet them in person. I gave up about 2 years ago with match.com; one reason is because I realized that every time I looked to see if there was anyone on it I knew, the same faces on it. Something’s wrong if somebody is on that thing years at a time…
By Diana T on 10/15/2008 3:33 pm
Chrome Toe
Elaine - i think that person you’re responding to is a troll. not an actual poster. but someone trying to get people to go to the website they posted.
By Chrome Toe on 10/15/2008 8:55 pm
HA BIBI
I figured as much! I never go to the websites that are inserted by unfamiliar posters. So the reason in posting to the individual was, that if they came back, they might see how silly and false their ideology on marriage was, LOL.
By HA BIBI on 10/16/2008 9:01 am
Grace OMalley
I met my husband first online and then in person when my company flew me over to Ireland for the vote on the Northern Ireland Peace Referendum in May 1998. After a long, summer online and offline romance, we wed the following December and are getting ready to celebrate our 10th wedding anniversary. After spending nearly 7 years going through the immigration process, my husband grew a “fat American arse” and is currently running for office (www.purdue08.com) in our little township. Online “dating” may not be for everyone, but I’d like to raise my voice as one of the success stories.
By Grace OMalley on 10/15/2008 5:48 pm
Chrome Toe
i don’t know how i feel about online dating… i got married before it became so mainstream. but i have watched friends do it quite succesfully. just spent the weekend with one of our best friends who is an incredible guy and the woman he met through e harmony. they seem really well suited for each other and are both awesome people. Had dinner last week with a couple we just met who’ve been married three years and met on match.com… so I dunno. I think there is a lot to be said for what love goddess says… that women don’t withhold enough information about themselves in the beginning. I always thought that if I was on an online site I wouldn’t put up a picture and I wouldn’t reveal to much and that alone might give me a shot at finding some of the guys who aren’t just looking for a beauty queen.
By Chrome Toe on 10/15/2008 8:53 pm
Kris Merrill
OK - I’ll admit it. I signed up on eHarmony. I’m not interested in hanging out at bars and didn’t have any luck meeting men at book stores and church events. In the 6 months I used that service I received over 500 matches, had 51 first dates, and met my fiance. Most of the men were very nice, some were boring and a couple were disasters. I posted several photos and was fairly open in my profile. In fact, when I read it now I’m a little embarassed by my honesty. But you know, It worked. Chatting on-line is only helpful for a while. A face to face meeting is critical in deciding if further communication is worth while. So at the age of 59 I tried something totally out of character for me. It felt uncomfortable at first but I had a great time, met interesting men and met a wonderful man. We lived over 100 miles apart but it was worth the drive. We met last November and will marry in Janurary!
By Kris Merrill on 10/16/2008 8:52 am
C L
Thanks for the plug for “The Leopard,” Love Goddess. Once the reader meets Prince Fabrizio, it will be lust at first read… Darcy who? I love the book more than the movie, but the movie is a solid four stars, it’s one of Visconti’s best, and the casting was perfect.
By C L on 10/16/2008 12:13 pm
Dr. Mark Klein
Game playing is one reason women often have problems with on line dating. Rather than just meeting a guy reasonably soon for coffee they want a long e-mail romance. Such communications just create unrealistic expectations for both parties. When I resumed dating after a divorce, I refused to do the above. Better to meet quickly face to face to check out potential chemistry.
By Dr. Mark Klein on 10/17/2008 10:10 am