Post | 04/08/2008 5:17 pm

I Read the News Today, Oh Boy: Will Obama Prove Them Wrong?

Lesley Stahl

I did a story for “60 Minutes” years ago about Denny’s, the restaurant chain, which was then embroiled in a discrimination lawsuit. As part of the story, my producer, a black woman, and I went into a Denny’s separately, sat at the counter alongside each other, and ordered. She was convinced that the waitress sneered at her, deliberately served her after she served me, and all but threw her food at her. I noticed none of that, even though I was looking for it. But to the producer it was real, and painful.

Fast forward to the current presidential campaign. From the beginning, just about every black friend and reporter I know has said that Obama can’t win the election because, as in the incident at Denny’s, prejudice is subtle, and enduring.

But as the campaign has sputtered along, I’ve been thinking that Obama’s victories are proving them all wrong.

Then today I read a smart column in the Washington Post by Richard Cohen, who points out that in the primaries Obama has done well with white voters in states where there are few blacks. Where there are substantial black populations – Texas, Ohio, Tennessee, New Jersey – the white vote has tipped overwhelmingly to Hillary.

Cohen says the persistence of racism makes Obama especially vulnerable to a Republican image assault like the Willie Horton ads that Bush “41” ran to portray his opponent, Michael Dukakis, as soft on black rapists.

I was in Washington over the weekend where I heard variations on the Cohen theme: Obama can’t win because the Republicans will make him into another liberal George McGovern … or effete Adlai Stevenson. (He should NEVER have bowled in that tie!) But it is the race issue that hovers over everything.

But I keep remembering that many of the same analysts and blacks who say Obama can’t win the election, said he couldn’t win the nomination. Which, I suppose, is still a possibility.

Cohen says we’ll have a better handle on all this by April 22, the night of the Pennsylvania primary. This is a state with lots of blacks.

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Diana Jamieson
Obama might win the nomination but he can’t win the election because he has no evident and coherent policies. Also, his agenda is concerned with Obama, not with anything beyond that. The race issue really doesn’t come into it. Mind you, this is an observation from someone on the other side of the Atlantic, but who is following the nomination battle very closely!
By Diana Jamieson on 04/08/2008 6:17 pm
Rosemary Butt
Sorry to disagree Diana, but race DOES enter into it. My Hubby and I retired to a small lake town in IN 20 years ago, my hubby a golfer, has stated that most of the guys hate Tiger because he is black and for no other reason. Racism is alive and well in Indiana, and I would imagine in other states also, it is just hidden by most people who are trying to be be politically correct, but when in the voting booth…… If he wins the nomination the Republicans will use his church membership against him, and we will have another war mongerer in office.
By Rosemary Butt on 04/09/2008 6:40 pm
Lilly Alexandra
Like Suzanne, I have heard very few racist remarks in my life. (I heard more from the tapes of Rev Wright than I’ve heard in conversations.) Obama will win, and the fact that he is half Africian-American will be a plus for him. The person who is handicapped by sterotypes and bias is Hillary Clinton. Clinton told a story about being fired upon when she arrived at an airport, and the press made it news for days, twisting and turning it, placing all sorts of import on it. Obama has lied about numerous things—important things—and the press generally gives him a pass. His main assets seem to be his race and his nice way with words. He really didn’t distinguish himself in any of his previous positions. He lacks the wisdom and the experience to be president. But the American people, led by a biased press, will elect him. My guess is that he will be fairly ineffective. As for the press, I am as ashamed of them as I was when they acted as cheerleaders for the Iraq War early on. (Imbeded journalists, indeed!) What we’ve needed in this election period is a fair and detailed look at the candidates records, votes, accomplishments and failures. Instead, we get fawning favoritism or furious opinion.
By Lilly Alexandra on 04/10/2008 11:25 am
Pearl Little
I agree with you Lilly. I wish someone would come out with an objective study of how the media has treated Clinton compared to how it has treated Obama, laying it out for everyone to see. I have no doubt it would be astonishing, even to those of us who are already aware of a bias. It also occurs to me that maybe an “experiment” like the one Lesley Stahl and her producer carried out could be objectively observed with secret cameras. I dare to suspect that the waitress, the target of the experiment, suspected of racism for making her living at Denny’s, got the first sneer and responded in kind. White people are often told (for instance in this post and in many responses) that they are unaware of the “subtle racism” that Blacks experience. I am actually acutely aware of racism, and always open my mouth to object if I see or hear it. But I wonder, are Black people in general aware of how many Blacks give whites dirty looks for walking on the street as whites; or slice and dice with their eyes just “knowing” that the white they are looking at was responsible for constructing slavery and its aftermath; or police any and all normal social interaction holding a ready accusation of “racism” at anytime - as a strategy for personal power, to control others, to avoid the downside of normal human interaction, and/or to avoid dealing with their own self-esteem issues by constantly projecting their internalized racism onto individual whites…? In my experience, it is a minority of Blacks who do this, but common enough that hardly a day goes by without being subjected to it. (And I am not counting here explicit anti-white racism, just the subtle aspects, which may be defensive in origin, but is racist in effect nonetheless.) The claim put forth now that “Obama can’t win” is a mass wielding of the issue of race to control others. The manipulators threaten to label any opposition against him “racism,” thereby undermining effective opposition. They have certainly been successful in influencing the media’s coverage of the campaign using this approach. Working class people are openly accused of being racist for supporting Hillary. Likewise for white women. Black people in support of Hillary are called “race traitors.” What a shameful way to try to win the campaign. By the way, Lesley, and ladies of wowowow.com, I think you are doing a lot of things well with this Web site, but how about taking action against racism not by carrying out unofficial experiments on waitresses in Denny’s, but by taking a race-sensitive look at this Web site. The lack of racial and ethnic diversity, obvious in the photos of bloggers, is inexcusable. By the way, what I just wrote is an example of speaking out against racism in a way that is not manipulation, just sincere observation with the obvious suggestion of the solution.
By Pearl Little on 04/12/2008 12:00 am
Pat Petrocine
Please go to the Wikipedia site and become informed about Obama. If you lived in the U.S. you might have some idea of the courage it took for him to run for President. He is highly intelligent, and is more than capable of becoming a leader of stature. You also might consider reading his last book to learn more about how he thinks.
By Pat Petrocine on 04/09/2008 7:11 pm
wanda bowen
Obama may be intelligent but no experience! If he gets the nomination he’ll be in over his head and we may be worse off than we are now if that is possible. Just remember voters thought Bush was so cute and a go get ‘em cowboy. Now they think Obama is the Messiah Go Hillary!
By wanda bowen on 04/09/2008 8:32 pm
Mary Lou From Maine
Please read up on this intelligent, self-reflective, grounded and inspiring candidate. Abraham Lincoln had the weakest resume of any president. He was bright and determined and authentic enough to surround himself with a cabinet and others who could advise and contribute for the best interests of all. One of Obama’s favorite books is Doris Kearns Goodwin’s book about this very subject. Look it up and have a read. And as to your “worse off than we are now” comment , wake up and look around and stop buying into the Hillary hype. I am a feminist and will proudly vote for a woman WHEN THE RIGHT ONE COMES ALONG. Inform yourself, do your own research and reading and make an intelligent choice for all our sakes. Please.
By Mary Lou From Maine on 04/10/2008 8:47 am
bambi59 mac
Wanda, with all due respect, I believe experience is less essential than sound judgement. I believe the following will be the defining moment of the 2008 Presidential Elections. On January 6, 2008 Senator John McCain was interviewed by Tim Russert on Meet The Press. Please google it, so you can hear the full content for yourself. Mr. Russert asked Senator McCain, if he had known that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, would he still have invaded Iraq. He said, YES. He said the war was not a mistake, but how it was handled was. So with 20/20 hindsight, he would have started a war with Iraq, despite now knowing that Iraq was not an imminent threat to the national security of The United States( The reason Congress and the American public and the world were given to justify the action). This is dangerous, not wise and reflective Presidential Judgement and exactly what we have in office today. Experience can be valuable, but it is what you do with the experience you’ve acquired that matters. That is called Judgement.
By bambi59 mac on 04/10/2008 1:40 pm
Star Lawrence
I don’t even think he is as smart as he thinks he is. Doesn’t he know the words “cling” and “bitter” are negative expressions. Plus he dished on one group to another—and everyone laughed, including him. He is a smartypants, not smart! And I hope it costs him big time!
By Star Lawrence on 04/14/2008 1:04 pm
Holly Kastelic
it’s probably a good thing that he doesn’t have that much experience. Bush’s group somehow stole that election, not that many people thought he was cute and still don’t. I have been hired many times for my “lack of experience” as the employers did not want to have to correct any mistakes I may have learned elsewhere and that I would do something stupid that someone else may have taught me. I believe Obama and Hillary have a great amount of experience and that McCain might be more than a little unstable. I recently even listened to a radio show that was talking about how McCain did not get to move up in the ranks any further in the military as he “lacked leadership ability” …He is a hot headed cheating husband that I worry would react with his big mouth and hot temper and get us in even deeper doo doo that the war mongers running the country now have done. He is just looking for an excuse to go into Iran next and would likely be the end of America’s little tiny thread of hope we have left to go back to being the respected country we used to be.
By Holly Kastelic on 04/14/2008 6:32 pm
Buh-Bye Hillary Hillary Buh-Bye
Thank you Pat!
By Buh-Bye Hillary Hillary Buh-Bye on 04/10/2008 12:38 am
jeri b
Come on now Pat, since when has Wikipedia become a reputable source for information? I DO agree with you on Obama. The man is quite intelligent. Despite his poor choice of religious leaders and words sometimes, he’s still probably carrying atleast 50 IQ points more than our present leader. His somewhat murky ideas do tend to reflect my concerns for this nation, particularly those dealing with our dependency on oil, medical care for the poor and elderly, the economy, our ecological systems, education and unemployment. As a middle aged, middle class African- American mother and wife, I would be pleased to see either Obama or Clinton in office. Both have similar philosophies. Both are thinkers. I’m so fearful of where McCain and his war supporting cabinet might lead us. We really need to push for either one of these great democratic candidates. I can’t take another four years of incompetence. This idea of placing any old knuckle head in front of a podium with a well-written speech doesn’t work.
By jeri b on 04/10/2008 10:17 pm
Just  Me
Obama can’t win if the voters are intelligent. He doesn’t offer detailed solutions, whereas, Clinton does. Race has little to do with anything under that premise. Obama does have an elequent ability to express the issues/problems though. This is what has got him so far. I traveled by car, camping in tent, solo for 2-1/2 years crossing the US 4 times & Canada twice for the sole purpose of trying to understand the prejudice against Blacks (I’m white) because I have never understood why anyone would hold someone in a different status due to skin pigmentation. In my extensive travels in the South I learned how hypocritical people really are. Southerners are the sweetest, kindest, most hospital people but they still use the term “Niger” instead of he/she/Black. They show a healthy respect of Blacks in public but close that door & they are very demeaning of the Blacks. Why? I will never understand. For this reason we must be realists, Obama can’t win the presidency but can the nomination because it isn’t the Democrats that are prejudice in general.
By Just Me on 04/09/2008 7:55 pm
Star Lawrence
I totally agree with this. He comes across to me as a backbencher with a good speechwriter or a snooty HS debater. I think he joined that black power church to gain credibility in Chicago politics or because he was trying to decide where he stood on the race continuum—or both. He didn’t leave because he was getting something from it. Now, it’s a nuisance. He introduces race subtly all the time—in his speech, he mentioned the blood of slaveowners running in his wife’s veins and being passed down to their precious daughters. That was to provoke guilt, in my opinion. He is slick, though. It has come to the point now that to even mention race is somehow racist. I will not vote for him and it’s based on the handling of racial issues—call me a racist if you want. Maybe we need a new term, though—race mentionist. All of this has a weird vibe to me. The WSJ says his wife’s clothes are copies of those worn by Jackie Kennedy—incl that lavender silk sheath she wore on the cover of Newsweek. This seems so orchestrated.
By Star Lawrence on 04/11/2008 11:23 am
Bella Mia
1)Obama is a freshman senator, and ranked as the most liberal senator based on his record. His race has kept him viable, whereas if he were white few would take his candidacy seriously, because of his, albiet thin, record. I saw an interview with 50 Obama supporters. They had glowing things to say about Obama after one of the debates. Then the question was asked: Can you name one of his accomplishments as a legislator? crickets……it was awkward and embarrassing. Finally, after about 15 seconds, (which seems like an eternity on TV) someone answered: “He’s a good speaker.” And people clapped. The implications were profound. Economists Dr. Sowell and Dr. Williams, both African-Americans, conclude that his policies would be detrimental to the best interests of American Taxpayers - and all McCain has to do is point out that Obama has refused to work with Republicans across the aisle, whereas McCain has worked with democrats. We live in a dangerous and aggressive world, and Obama seems woefully inadequate to take on aggressors, like Iran which will likely become a nuclear power during the next presidency. 2)(Al Gore was the first one to bring up the issues of Willie Horton in a debate with Dukakis.) 3) I’ve often wondered when I’ve had unprofessional service from a service worker of my race - white - if a black person would have chalked the bad service up to racism. I find bad, poor, disinterested service is endemic, and it happens about 70% of the time to me. How is anyone able to differentiate between racism and generically bad service? I think it would be very difficult, if not impossible to tell the difference.
By Bella Mia on 04/08/2008 6:41 pm