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Lesley Stahl | 04/08/2008 4:17 pm

I Read the News Today, Oh Boy: Will Obama Prove Them Wrong?

Lesley Stahl

I did a story for “60 Minutes” years ago about Denny’s, the restaurant chain, which was then embroiled in a discrimination lawsuit. As part of the story, my producer, a black woman, and I went into a Denny’s separately, sat at the counter alongside each other, and ordered. She was convinced that the waitress sneered at her, deliberately served her after she served me, and all but threw her food at her. I noticed none of that, even though I was looking for it. But to the producer it was real, and painful.

Fast forward to the current presidential campaign. From the beginning, just about every black friend and reporter I know has said that Obama can’t win the election because, as in the incident at Denny’s, prejudice is subtle, and enduring.

But as the campaign has sputtered along, I’ve been thinking that Obama’s victories are proving them all wrong.

Then today I read a smart column in the Washington Post by Richard Cohen, who points out that in the primaries Obama has done well with white voters in states where there are few blacks. Where there are substantial black populations – Texas, Ohio, Tennessee, New Jersey – the white vote has tipped overwhelmingly to Hillary.

Cohen says the persistence of racism makes Obama especially vulnerable to a Republican image assault like the Willie Horton ads that Bush “41” ran to portray his opponent, Michael Dukakis, as soft on black rapists.

I was in Washington over the weekend where I heard variations on the Cohen theme: Obama can’t win because the Republicans will make him into another liberal George McGovern … or effete Adlai Stevenson. (He should NEVER have bowled in that tie!) But it is the race issue that hovers over everything.

But I keep remembering that many of the same analysts and blacks who say Obama can’t win the election, said he couldn’t win the nomination. Which, I suppose, is still a possibility.

Cohen says we’ll have a better handle on all this by April 22, the night of the Pennsylvania primary. This is a state with lots of blacks.

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"Pinkie" Barger
I certainly applaud you Suzanne for your wise analysis - I’m 77 today, had a wonderful 25-year career at the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta and am a dyed-in-the-wool liberal who after reading both of his books and listening carefully to his ideas and positions on all the issues feel that this man is truly gifted and we would be so fortunate to have him as our next president. He is not only remarkably intelligent but extremely caring and the depth of his insights literally blow me away! I’m excited to be taking part in the political process for the first time in years.
By "Pinkie" Barger on 04/09/2008 4:15 pm
Deni G
Yay Suzanne! I find it interesting that some people assume that Lesley’s perception of the experience at Denny’s is accepted as more valid than her producer’s perception. I would like to point out that although Lesley didn’t notice any prejudice, that doesn’t mean, there wasn’t any prejudice. It only means, Leslie didn’t notice any. And in this instance, Leslie’s perception, is not more valid, than her producer’s. But I do not think that Obama being of mixed race, will keep him from the presidency. I am not thrilled with his lack of experience. But I am impressed with the way he tackles problems and with his ability to create a highly efficient organized team, around him. As to the idea that the Republicans will paint Obama with ‘whatever!’ They will do that, irregardless. It is what they do! It appears to be all they do. It doesn’t really matter, whether it is the ‘black man’ or the ‘woman’, they will do what they do and it will be equally offensive. They are nothing if not equal opportunity, smear merchants. I also don’t think the ‘states with many blacks’ theory is any kind of measure of anything. Obama did, after all was said and done, win the delegate count in Texas! And let us not overlook all the young, new voters, Obama will bring to the democratic party and to the polls. In my opinion the only candidate that is unelectable, in the upcoming contest, is McCain.
By Deni G on 04/09/2008 4:23 pm
CAROLINE MuLVEY
I truly believe that Obama would be a great president. I also agree with you that the worst thing that could happen is McCain get voted in. My son is in the Army and will soon be going to Iraq for the third time along with his wife. She is in supplies and he is on the front line. I am so scared for him and all of the other soldiers that have to go to that war. We should not even be there.
By CAROLINE MuLVEY on 04/09/2008 8:15 pm
Ryn Dole
Reading Kennedy’s speech reminded me that there are no perfect people to run for president- we can only look for those who strive for perfection. I think Barack Obama knows how to gather people who will help him achieve a forward-looking leadership of this country and he has the least amount of prior baggage to interfere with this goal.
By Ryn Dole on 04/09/2008 6:49 pm
marlene slavich
I agree with much of what you say, and I would like to comment on the issue of service. I am a 58 year old, fat, white woman. Trust me, people like me are invisible when it comes to service! My attractive 30 year old daughter and I were shopping in an upscale department store in Atlanta recently. At every counter we approached, sales people always engaged her first and, in every instance, in a friendlier manner. My conclusion is that if we want good service, we must demand it.
By marlene slavich on 04/09/2008 10:19 am
Charles King
Obama is a democrat. The reason why most people find it difficult to pinpoint his positions other than his stance on the war is because they are not outstandingly different from the official democratic party line. That’s not a negative because he is outstanding in other ways, several of which will have been oulined by another poster further down the line. To say he is a beneficiary of affirmative action in term of Ferraro’s declaration is to ignore that he was, yes, affirmed, by his peers, fellow students, who voted him president of the Harvard Law Review, as the standout amongst similarly highly gifted individuals, “Primus inter Pares,” (first among equals). That is the mark of a leader who has earned his place, and the secret of his charisma. Yes, ‘the times make the man’ because some people uniquely embody and espouse the qualities people long for in their leaders … and rarely find. Where such a man exists, and seems interested in the position, regarless of his other deficits and even lack of experience, they raise him up and demand that he perform in their interests. It happened to Churchill, Kennedy, Lincoln, and a host of other historical figures world wide, including Martin Luther King and Gandhi. The original Martin Luther who started the Protestant movement was a single humble monk with little else known of him except that he seemed to embody and espouse a position that people had longed to see represented for a long long time. I guess what I am saying is that Obama is not just a man, he is the embodiment of a nations “dream.” As I wrote elsewhere, “a bright young (white) woman from Kansas may literally have deliberately succeeded in becoming the embodiment of Martin’s dream, which was the dream of the times.” It has happened before in history, but they crucified him! I also said that MLK’s ascendancy SAVED America and by extension the world from the debilitation of internecine strife, which allowed Capitalism to triumph over the threat of Communism. There are few economists and financiers who are not aware that America presently faces a similar threat right now in this decade of being overwhelmed by external forces, no less economic than military. Obama may speak in broader terms than Hillary, but that sometimes bespeaks a broader grasp of broader isssues and forces that shape our lives. We need that in a leader too, sometimes more so. Yes the devil is in the detail, but first … he has to get elected.
By Charles King on 04/10/2008 3:44 am
Dorothy K
Although I plan to vote for whichever Democrat wins the nomination I don’t think either of them can win. Too many people have hidden sexist or racist feelings. When polled they will give the socially acceptable answer, but when in the privacy of the voting booth many will vote their prejudices . I’ve seen it happen many times. People I’ve known will mouth one thing and then afterward admit they voted differently than they spoke! When I questioned their actions they usually said, “I don’t know what happened, but the last minute…………I changed my vote!” I hope and pray that I’m wrong.
By Dorothy K on 04/08/2008 5:59 pm
Esther Bradley-DeTally
I think there’s been a paradigm shift. Obama is capable of working across the aisle. He’s handled great slurs, and it is his integrity and capacity that draws people to him. Now, because I say he has integrity, doesn’t mean I don’t think he can’t handle the crocodiles and gargoyles of the world who are ever intent on wreaking havoc. He can deal with it I believe. It’s old hack language to use “Willy Horton,” and old political rhetoric. Both Clinton and McCain come from that background. I think the majority of the people are striving for higher levels of unity, behavior. I am white, 69 and drawn to Obama. I also am aware of all types of racism in this society: unaware, institutional (which is large) and individual. I believe in the oneness of the human race, and I believe we must change or become extinct. We’ve tried war for umpteen years, but humanity has a higher purpose. At least that’s how I read it. Thomas Friedman, interviewed by Charlie Rose said something to the effect that the people are aware. You can’t fool the people, or a goodly amount of them, with rhetoric. I think Obama has tremendous capacity, and the ability to have his own clear voice, and able to do critical thinking to the max. We do not always have this voice with our leaders. It is also time, for the nation to go beyond partisan politics. It is divisive, disunifying, and lives are at stake. If we continue on the same path as a nation, with corruption, rhetoric, unparalleled greed, much despair will become evident. Democracy is becoming the most abused word bandied about. Enuf said.
By Esther Bradley-DeTally on 04/08/2008 6:01 pm
MARK KLEIN, M.D.
Race is a dead issue in America. The election is Obama’s to lose. A minor candidate for the GOP nomination I campaigned extensively in Iowa and New Hampshire. Lots of people expressed to me an open dislike of Clinton but never heard any personal criticism of Obama even from Republicans. Strongly suspect he’ll do surprisingly well with evangelicals for whom character and reliability count more than party affiliation. In fact, I think that voter constituency is up for grabs. Inherently suspicious of political marriages Obama’s real vulnerability is the revelation he’s a player. Presidential marriages are such shams wonder if our addiction of repeated failed wars is the result of the president sleeping on the couch too often and/or contending with jealous mistresses. Hence war as anger management therapy.
By MARK KLEIN, M.D. on 04/08/2008 6:20 pm
Buh-Bye Hillary Hillary Buh-Bye
It is really frightening that a supposed medical doctor can equate something so inhumane, costly, and destructive as war to something as superficial as unhappy presidential marriages. I would think that someone who has taken an oath to protect human life would approach the fact that the 20th century was the bloodiest in history, and the last 7 years a living hell, with some informed thought and gravitas. The reason for our addiction to war has been spelled out by two high profile Republicans. President Eisenhower in his farewell address to the nation warned about the creation of the very military-industrial complex that exists now and has been institutionalized under GWB; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY The Carlyle Group is nearly next door to the WH. There are more Blackhawk mercenaries in Iraq, and an immense cost to US taxpayer, than there are US troops that return to cut benefits. And during the Depression one of the most decorated men in US History, former U.S. Marine Major General Smedley Darlington Butler, one of only 19 people to be twice awarded the Medal of Honor, wrote “War is a Racket.” Here is what he said in a 1933 speech, “War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses. I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else. If a nation comes over here to fight, then we’ll fight. The trouble with America is that when the dollar only earns 6 percent over here, then it gets restless and goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag follows the dollar and the soldiers follow the flag. I wouldn’t go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket. There isn’t a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind to. It has its “finger men” to point out enemies, its “muscle men” to destroy enemies, its “brain men” to plan war preparations, and a “Big Boss” Super-Nationalistic-Capitalism. It may seem odd for me, a military man to adopt such a comparison. Truthfulness compels me to. I spent thirty- three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country’s most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service. I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912 (where have I heard that name before?). I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested. During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.” Here’s Butler’s small wise book in total. http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html I know the mass organized murder of tens of millions of people: 40 million with 21 million wounded in WWI, 62 million in WWII, Over 1M total dead so far in Iraq-with that country in ruin, and our economy and world reputation needlessly destroyed…none of that rises to the titilation factor of war as a result of sham presidential marriages and mistresses…but FACTS will just have to do.
By Buh-Bye Hillary Hillary Buh-Bye on 04/08/2008 7:30 pm
MARK KLEIN, M.D.
Suzanne, I was being flip about presidential marriages. Nevertheless with four decades in medicine and psychiatry plus raising four children under my belt I’ve seen and heard it all. People under stress, or feeling profoundly unloved, often act out inappropriately. Pretty scary when such a person commands the world’s most powerful military. I pretty much agree with your analysis of what’s behind our endless warmaking. Plutocrat Citizen Hearst congently summed it up telling a staff photographer before the Spanish-American War “You get me the pictures and I’ll get you a war!” Like you I’ve served. Volunteered twice for active duty during the Viet Nam War era.
By MARK KLEIN, M.D. on 04/08/2008 9:10 pm
Buh-Bye Hillary Hillary Buh-Bye
You’re right Dr. Klein—I do actively serve. Not by running off to Naplam innocent civilians and destroy a country, in yet another phony war pushed by the profiteers like Brown and Root. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3evAtxHTNE And to add more isotope strontium-90 to the leakage from the nuclear plants, and the nuclear waste buried in land and at sea that never existed outside of labs until 20th century wars. Now it in inside every person and animal on earth. In addition to the billions of tons of Agent Orange, defoliants, depleted uranium, pesticides, herbicides, industrial pollution, automobile exhaust that are dumped into the environment, and the toxic specters that ghost from our landfills, haunt the entire eco-system, including our bodies so that 3,000 Americans die from eco-related cancers each day. Wars are nothing but organized mass murder for profit that steal from our treasury and our spiritual estate. I have spent many more years than I care to think about being one of the “traitors” that shows up at protests when I could be home doing watercolors or gardening or writing more books instead of protecting my son and everyone’s son from the madness of men. I was a girl during Viet Nam and had the sense then to know it was wrong then. As Major General Smedley Butler said we should fight wars to protect our borders or homes….not to go slaughter innocent population. Thankfully, there are very good people like Celine Dion and Tony Bennett who have the brains to articulate what the world wants, and it isn’t war. So unpuff your chest and redeem yourself, you part the problem, not the solution. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A38-98gYdvM
By Buh-Bye Hillary Hillary Buh-Bye on 04/08/2008 11:00 pm
CAROLINE MuLVEY
Suzanne, you are right this Dr. is crazy and I love you come backs. My son is about to go to Iraq for the third time as well as his wife. We need to get out and let Iraq do whatever they are going to do. I do not want to bury my son or his wife. That is not what is suppose to happen. He wants to do his bit to help all Americans. He wants to be in the states and protecting all of us. Sorry for rambling. I do love your comments.
By CAROLINE MuLVEY on 04/09/2008 8:26 pm
Buh-Bye Hillary Hillary Buh-Bye
Dear Caroline, You are not rambling and I love your posts too…your husband sounds like a prince and I can imagine you making the blankets for your family. It brings tears to my eyes to think of your dear son and his wife in Iraq for the third time. They are heroic. Whatever we may individually think about the administration’s actions, the troops are heroic. All my prayers are with you and your family. You are heroic too!
By Buh-Bye Hillary Hillary Buh-Bye on 04/09/2008 11:56 pm
Mugsy Peabody
Go away, Mark, this is not your place.
By Mugsy Peabody on 04/09/2008 12:39 am