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Lesley Stahl | 04/08/2008 4:17 pm

I Read the News Today, Oh Boy: Will Obama Prove Them Wrong?

Lesley Stahl

I did a story for “60 Minutes” years ago about Denny’s, the restaurant chain, which was then embroiled in a discrimination lawsuit. As part of the story, my producer, a black woman, and I went into a Denny’s separately, sat at the counter alongside each other, and ordered. She was convinced that the waitress sneered at her, deliberately served her after she served me, and all but threw her food at her. I noticed none of that, even though I was looking for it. But to the producer it was real, and painful.

Fast forward to the current presidential campaign. From the beginning, just about every black friend and reporter I know has said that Obama can’t win the election because, as in the incident at Denny’s, prejudice is subtle, and enduring.

But as the campaign has sputtered along, I’ve been thinking that Obama’s victories are proving them all wrong.

Then today I read a smart column in the Washington Post by Richard Cohen, who points out that in the primaries Obama has done well with white voters in states where there are few blacks. Where there are substantial black populations – Texas, Ohio, Tennessee, New Jersey – the white vote has tipped overwhelmingly to Hillary.

Cohen says the persistence of racism makes Obama especially vulnerable to a Republican image assault like the Willie Horton ads that Bush “41” ran to portray his opponent, Michael Dukakis, as soft on black rapists.

I was in Washington over the weekend where I heard variations on the Cohen theme: Obama can’t win because the Republicans will make him into another liberal George McGovern … or effete Adlai Stevenson. (He should NEVER have bowled in that tie!) But it is the race issue that hovers over everything.

But I keep remembering that many of the same analysts and blacks who say Obama can’t win the election, said he couldn’t win the nomination. Which, I suppose, is still a possibility.

Cohen says we’ll have a better handle on all this by April 22, the night of the Pennsylvania primary. This is a state with lots of blacks.

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Marjorie Sunderman
One of the rarely mentioned prejudices in this election is Sexism, I was out there marching for Women’s Lib before it became a dirty word, and I have watched it erode away year after year. There are women who are bobbing around under the glass ceiling who would deny that prejudice, but I would be willing to bet that the old white males who wouldn’t vote for a woman if she were a re-incarnation of Jesus Christ, would not vote for Obama if it were a choice between an old white male or a black man. Add to the problem the women who believe themselves to be incompetent and project their self-hate on other women. The end result, we have another old white male to take us down the primrose path to hell where they can use the sons we raise to play war.
By Marjorie Sunderman on 04/08/2008 9:33 pm
Kay Sara
Marjorie, I take my hat off to you! I am suing (gasp since 2004 and now in 6th circuit appeal) my $3.8 billion dollar corporation for gender bias, glass ceiling and unequal pay. My fellow women co-workers too chicken to stand with me - but they are all rooting for me secretly and taking the benefits that are dropping on them as a way to erode any chance of my getting their support. A few of us are still out there fighting for our rights. Thank you for what you started. Please women help us bring our fight to closure.
By Kay Sara on 04/09/2008 5:26 pm
Buh-Bye Hillary Hillary Buh-Bye
Wow Suzanne…..how about writing a 300-500 word essay on this per WOWs emailed newsletter and email it into them…we’d all love to read it. You go….hope you prevail.
By Buh-Bye Hillary Hillary Buh-Bye on 04/10/2008 12:06 am
Kay Sara
Thanks, Suzanne for your interest and support. I will serioulsy think about writing that essay- The Republican agenda in the courts is so prevelent. If nothing else my briefs and evidence may end up being a testament for the future generations on how things were so autrocius in this age and rulings made completely outside of the law - that is why I took it to the 6th circuit for appeal. Corruption, purjury courts have turned a blind eye. That is why if we don’t impeach Bush, don’t prosecute those who lie under oath - our entire system will crumble. How can you have trials when people know they can get away with lying under oath??
By Kay Sara on 04/10/2008 3:10 pm
Render Vixen
I’m a social liberal and a fiscal conservative. (Especially with my personal finances; which means I research every charitable organization, and generously give to groups who will not squander my donation.) This is a HUGE problem when it comes to election time: I have never been represented by a presidential candidate since I was eligible to vote in 1980. And now? McCain’s foreign and domestic policies are likely to bankrupt America, both as a nation and as individuals. Clinton (the honest one) has a healthcare program that will bankrupt the nation even faster: basically lumping more worthless, yet costly, government paperwork over the infrastructure of an already-paperwork-laden commercial HMO-favoring system. Obama is the ONLY candidate I am willing to vote for. In fact, I am already starting to look at which foreign country I will call home should he not succeed…
By Render Vixen on 04/08/2008 9:45 pm
Kay Sara
Render Vixen, Please rethink your opinion of Clinton’s health care plan. It is based on Medicare- one of the most efficiently run health care programs in existence. Without subsidized mandatory coverage- (i.e. Obama’s plan) we will have no inroads into health care costs rising for those who do pay for insurance. Medical field supports Hillary’s program and it is a falisy it will bankrupt America. Remember under Clintons we went from a hughe deficit to a surplus that would cover social security well into the future—-until Bush got his hands on that surplus. Hillary is the most fiscally conservative and capable candidate running.
By Kay Sara on 04/09/2008 5:31 pm
Chris Boyer
Bella Mia: How do you know a similar crowd of Clinton supporters would have reacted differently when challenged to name one of her accomplishments as a senator? Joy Lazaro: It is well-documented that the Republicans are betting and strategizing on the exact opposite of what you say: promoting the nomination of Clinton is the surest way to a Republican victory. That is why they registered and voted for her in the primaries in droves. Suzanne de Cornelia: As you undoubtedly know, the word “liberal” is a variant of “liberty”. Who should apologize for that? Ironically, “liberal” often means “even more conservative than conservatives”, such as in the environmental movement, when progress means returning to a superior prior state. The stigmatization of this word’s proud legacy is second only to that of the slang word for “negro”, which after all is only a latin form of “black”. This is what the right does, only too well: manipulate words in order to manipulate people. Current stigmatization campaigns include the word “secular” and a few others. The key is to realize that the stigmatized word’s power is granted by the person who reacts…and that words are cheap. It’s actions that should make an impression upon us. As you allude, the far right has had an agenda to eradicate liberalism and create a “permanent conservative/Republican majority”. That agenda shows a real misunderstanding of social dynamics, and is a logical impossibility like achieving more selling and less buying. Each side exists in reaction to the other. Fortunately the Founders realized this, and that the healthiest solution is to create a system whereby each side is played against the other in healthy debate, thus utilizing creative energies toward improvement and advancement. I don’t think they would view the current tactics of destruction favorably. What about this post comparing Clinton’s and Obama’s record in the Senate? http://tinyurl.com/ypykhr Voting for a candidate because of that person’s race or gender is a singularly lousy reason to vote for that candidate. We’ve been voting for candidates for the invalid reason that they’ve been (generally elderly) white males for years, and it isn’t an improvement to vote for them for the equally invalid reason that they’re black or female. Even agreement on issues is secondary. Just as you do when you hire someone, go for the best and most-qualified person. Period.
By Chris Boyer on 04/08/2008 10:36 pm
Buh-Bye Hillary Hillary Buh-Bye
Chris—Excellent from Kos comparing Clinton/Obama’s voting record….I saw that a few month’s ago and was so impressed by that woman’s thoroughness and diligence. Thank you. Simmy please read it! http://tinyurl.com/ypykhr I’m not for or against anyone because they are female, black, or pink with purple polka-dots. I’m a single, white, female San Franciscan….kind of Hillary’s demographic. Was a supporter of Bill Clinton. And now am voting for Obama if he is the nominee.
By Buh-Bye Hillary Hillary Buh-Bye on 04/09/2008 2:11 am
Maurine H
One of the yardsticks I have used to measure the two Democratic candidates is the efficiency and effectiveness with which they have run their campaigns. If you look at Clinton and Obama as CEOs in charge of their campaign logistics, you get an indication of how they would run the White House. Clinton’s campaign has stumbled numerous times; it has lost top advisors (just this week Mark Penn resigned ..at least “offically”… because of a conflict of interest that is truly unethical), has failed to raise sufficent funding…Clinton had to loan her campaign $5,000,000 just to keep going, and has flailed around with first one approach and then another…drama and comedy. It’s not very reassuring to think of the White House being run that way. On the other hand, Obama’s campaign has been called the best managed in recent history, has continued to raise funds from individuals in record-breaking amounts, has been consistently on-message , and has retained a well-organized, well-led staff. For me, the contrast between the two campaigns is dramatic and telling. I keep reading arguments about Obama’s junior status and lack of experience, but I’m hard pressed to find much more content in Clinton’s experience. She can tout the White House years, but, as we found out recently when she erronously described the circumstances of her Bosnia trip, there’s not much there. I give Obama high marks for his integrity, his willingness to speak with our adversaries, and his intelligence. I am sure that, as President, he will select a cabinet of experts. At this point in our history we need real leadership to deal with internal and external issues, and I sincerely believe that Obama offers that leadership.
By Maurine H on 04/08/2008 10:59 pm
Buh-Bye Hillary Hillary Buh-Bye
EXCELLENT Maurine! Thank you for putting it so well.
By Buh-Bye Hillary Hillary Buh-Bye on 04/09/2008 2:25 am
A B
Maurine H , I agree with you that by looking at how a candidate runs a campaign, “you get an indication of how they would run the White House.” According to the New Yorker Magazine, Obama is running a secretive campaign similar to the George Bush White House. Anyone who gets off message is immediately tossed. Obama is secretive and likeable. Sound familiar?
By A B on 04/09/2008 3:08 pm
Kay Sara
Excellent AB- very true!
By Kay Sara on 04/09/2008 5:36 pm
Renata
Suzanne, thank you — as always.
By Renata on 04/08/2008 11:09 pm
sharon  thompson
normally, i stay away from politics having been thrown into a frenzy years ago when i allowed a local candidate the opportunity for a photo opp…. today i feel strongly that hillary has a leading edge on the learning curve. she already knows the white house ins and outs - the foreign policies, the shakers and movers, etc etc. for me it is not a matter of race - its a matter of having been there - knowing the expectations - understanding the game - being strong, independent and self sufficient. not who has the better campaign manager or the most money - who knows what the american public needs to survive and how to provide the staples of our everyday lives - health insurance, good paying positions and stability with the economy. yes its simplified - but isnt that want the american public needs and desires? does obama understand? i think not.
By sharon thompson on 04/08/2008 11:09 pm
Kay Sara
Sharon, my view of Hillary’s shorter learning curve matches yours. We have so many crucial issues requiring immediate ACTION- we cannot take a chance on a newbie naive 6 month honeymoon period to get his head out of the clouds before he gets to work. If he will get to work???? Obama does not strike me as a go getter hard working person- and we need that. Not the time for dreamers.
By Kay Sara on 04/09/2008 5:40 pm