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A Friend Stopped By | 10/30/2008 8:45 am

Infidelity: Do the Math, by Dalma Heyn

By Dalma Heyn
Courtesy of Dalma Heyn
Dalma Heyn, MSW, is the bestselling author of two books on marriage (The Erotic Silence of the American Wife and Marriage Shock: The Transformation Of Women Into Wives) and one on dating (Drama Kings: The Men Who Drive Strong Women Crazy). She is the former editor in chief of Health Magazine and executive editor of McCall’s, and has written widely on the subject of love. She has appeared both as author and social observer on "Oprah," "The Today Show," "Larry King Live," "The Charlie Rose Show" and "Good Morning America." Visit Dalma’s website by clicking here.

The lead story spread across the Science section of the Times Monday looked so familiar. "More people are cheating, new studies find, and younger women appear to be catching up with men," the blurb announced.  

"Soooo familiar," my husband said, as he often does when a similar story appears, handing me the paper. Maybe it was familiar because of a similar "surprising" article about the subject reported last year in — what was it, The Atlantic Monthly? Yes, I think so, but maybe it was another piece somewhere else — they appear so often now. But always they come as breakthrough, shocking news. I looked at this one: After stating that some studies understate and some overstate the amount of infidelity because of the difficulty in obtaining the truth from adulterers, the article said infidelity appears to be on the rise — and that, "notably, women appear to be closing the adultery gap; younger women appear to be cheating on their spouses nearly as often as men."

Oh NOW I know why it sounds so familiar! I wrote a book saying just that 16 years ago! In 1992, inspired by letters from young women over many years for a column I was writing called "The Intelligent Woman’s Guide to Sex," I wrote The Erotic Silence of the American Wife, in which I suggested that existing data were pointing to the fact that – yes — women appear to be having affairs nearly as often as, or as often as, men. (I didn’t use the word "cheating" then, nor would I now.) I noted that in the 1990 Kinsey report, 29 percent of wives and 37 percent of husbands had extramarital sex; and that Kinsey himself was the first to admit that his own figures on women’s adultery were hampered by women’s reluctance to speak up, while men’s were exaggerated by their eagerness to be counted as adulterous even when they’re not. 

But I’m not here to say, "I said it first 16 years ago," but to marvel yet again at our intense resistance to this information — as evidenced by the banner headlines each time it’s revealed, and at our surprise over each new, better, airtight study when it reveals it. We remain in deep denial: Our  belief that women are somehow innately, characterologically monogamous goes far deeper than we know, so deep that 16 years ago, I had to steel myself against some of the reactions I got for stating contrary information supplied by real women. (In fact, in an argument that will ring a bell, I often heard that women who had affairs weren’t "real" women at all. "Real" women were good women who wouldn’t dream of … and so forth.) I was called a witch on the "Larry King Live!" show by a listener who wanted to quite literally shoot this messenger of such heresy. I was thrown off a right-wing, family-values radio show for citing government statistics that displeased the evangelical host. (I think it was the evidence that adultery statistics don’t differ across religious lines.) Today, we’re not so violent in our responses to the news that young women, like young men, have affairs — God knows, we see it in every movie and on every TV show — but we still can’t quite take it in. "Really? Not just men? Women too? How could that be?"

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joan larsen
Oh, Lady Gator … Our married lives are so similar . . . and I love it that you have answered me, telling me what you have, as it is wonderful to find another couple who can honestly say that for this many years, it has been wonderful. We both came from families that I never once saw argue — and our children don’t either - so so much of what we are, I believe, is what we have grown up with or seen. Not always - I know that - but it certainly helps. I remember hearing - when making a marriage choice: “look to the parents” for it often seems that the more like yours they are, the better your chances. Of course, as kids we don’t want to believe THAT — but as the years go by, there is more truth than fiction in it. I will say that I had one child that went with those tenets - we were doubles of the parents of my daughter-in-law, and it seemed a marriage made in heaven. BUT - as I found happens more often than not - when one (and it was her) somehow hit the right track (that I had set her on oddly), she rose very quickly in the company in a way I have not seen in anyone before or since. She was a natural, leading a life in her 30s as VP of a major corporation with a half a million salary. My son believed that you should not pawn off your kids on hired help, so all those years he was mother and father to the kids - but was no longer her equal in the ways of the world. The inevitable happened - she married the boss, and then became his boss — and add those figures up!!! Sadness still prevails for him as a second chance has evaded him, but the children had a healthy home life and are winners. I know that sort of thing happens but have never seen it other than this first hand. But that is getting beyond our conversation. And that is how fortunate we are that all of US have had a lovely life and couldn’t want for more. I think the laughing and having a good time, not getting so serious, and sometimes acting like teenagers has helped. Can’t tell you how glad you let me know — now we know there are two couples in the world anyhow!!!!
By joan larsen on 11/03/2008 9:34 pm
joan larsen
Oh, Lady Gator … Our married lives are so similar . . . and I love it that you have answered me, telling me what you have, as it is wonderful to find another couple who can honestly say that for this many years, it has been wonderful. We both came from families that I never once saw argue — and our children don’t either - so so much of what we are, I believe, is what we have grown up with or seen. Not always - I know that - but it certainly helps. I remember hearing - when making a marriage choice: “look to the parents” for it often seems that the more like yours they are, the better your chances. Of course, as kids we don’t want to believe THAT — but as the years go by, there is more truth than fiction in it. I will say that I had one child that went with those tenets - we were doubles of the parents of my daughter-in-law, and it seemed a marriage made in heaven. BUT - as I found happens more often than not - when one (and it was her) somehow hit the right track (that I had set her on oddly), she rose very quickly in the company in a way I have not seen in anyone before or since. She was a natural, leading a life in her 30s as VP of a major corporation with a half a million salary. My son believed that you should not pawn off your kids on hired help, so all those years he was mother and father to the kids - but was no longer her equal in the ways of the world. The inevitable happened - she married the boss, and then became his boss — and add those figures up!!! Sadness still prevails for him as a second chance has evaded him, but the children had a healthy home life and are winners. I know that sort of thing happens but have never seen it other than this first hand. But that is getting beyond our conversation. And that is how fortunate we are that all of US have had a lovely life and couldn’t want for more. I think the laughing and having a good time, not getting so serious, and sometimes acting like teenagers has helped. Can’t tell you how glad you let me know — now we know there are two couples in the world anyhow!!!!
By joan larsen on 11/03/2008 9:34 pm
joan larsen
Oh, Lady Gator … Our married lives are so similar . . . and I love it that you have answered me, telling me what you have, as it is wonderful to find another couple who can honestly say that for this many years, it has been wonderful. We both came from families that I never once saw argue — and our children don’t either - so so much of what we are, I believe, is what we have grown up with or seen. Not always - I know that - but it certainly helps. I remember hearing - when making a marriage choice: “look to the parents” for it often seems that the more like yours they are, the better your chances. Of course, as kids we don’t want to believe THAT — but as the years go by, there is more truth than fiction in it. I will say that I had one child that went with those tenets - we were doubles of the parents of my daughter-in-law, and it seemed a marriage made in heaven. BUT - as I found happens more often than not - when one (and it was her) somehow hit the right track (that I had set her on oddly), she rose very quickly in the company in a way I have not seen in anyone before or since. She was a natural, leading a life in her 30s as VP of a major corporation with a half a million salary. My son believed that you should not pawn off your kids on hired help, so all those years he was mother and father to the kids - but was no longer her equal in the ways of the world. The inevitable happened - she married the boss, and then became his boss — and add those figures up!!! Sadness still prevails for him as a second chance has evaded him, but the children had a healthy home life and are winners. I know that sort of thing happens but have never seen it other than this first hand. But that is getting beyond our conversation. And that is how fortunate we are that all of US have had a lovely life and couldn’t want for more. I think the laughing and having a good time, not getting so serious, and sometimes acting like teenagers has helped. Can’t tell you how glad you let me know — now we know there are two couples in the world anyhow!!!!
By joan larsen on 11/03/2008 9:34 pm
gulliver fourmyle
ladies, please understand, men ‘prey’ on married women—-for one reason—-they are easy to get away from—-‘dat’s da facts. jack’.
By gulliver fourmyle on 11/01/2008 1:16 am
Eileen Winnick
I ‘ve read and loved all of Dalma Heyn’s books on women and relationships. She’s a brilliant cultural observer. Is there some strange comfort in assuming there ‘s one ‘wild ” party girl out there having all the fun? Duh.
By Eileen Winnick on 10/30/2008 3:02 pm
HA BIBI
Anyone who would cheat on their spouse has issues. If you want your sexual freedom, then get a divorce and do it the right way. Divorce first then go screw around. It’s so sad that the marriage vows today for so many are, not till death do we part but rather….Until we get sick of one another.
By HA BIBI on 10/30/2008 3:42 pm
Chips AHoey
Elaine - I think Joan is on to something - I don’t think vows are as simple as how they are spoken on the altar - I have been married for over 20 years myself and am lucky to not have complicated my life too badly but I find I always have one close friend who is a man - it’s not sexual, but it’s a hang-out buddy, or a work-spouse (another recently discussed phenomenon) kind of person - I don’t think it’s reasonable to think that your spouse can fit every one of your needs and though I am probably the closest friends with my husband as I ever have been, I do still need the close friendships I have with men (and yes, I have my girlfriends too so I’m not the kind of woman who only relates to men, another type to study) the older I get the more I realize that few things in life are simple Joan - real nice work!
By Chips AHoey on 10/30/2008 5:11 pm
phyllis Doyle Pepe
Chips: I think most of us have the kinds of relationships you are talking about. What Joan is talking about are long term relationships within a marriage where one spouse is having another long term sexual relationship with another. That’s a different bag of beans. She is saying that in her experience––––not personal, but observational––––that kind of thing has enhanced the marriage––it has brought joy into an otherwise lacking–– in one area or another––relationship. I can fully appreciate that in some cases this could work if one’s spouse was ill or incapacitated in some way, but the fact remains that it––the joy–-as fine as that may be is based on a lie. My opinion on all this is based on not only personal experience, but observational. Unless one has an open marriage where both agree to this kind of thing, it can tear someone apart and the scars remain.
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 10/30/2008 5:55 pm
HA BIBI
Phyllis, Thank you. What ever other people do is their buisness, But for me and my husband, the “Traditional” wedding vows are what I go by and in those vows also states, “in sickness and health”. I would no more want to get out and fulfill some sexual need with someone else because some illness/injury happened to my husband, any more than he would me. Life is life and things can happen and it is in those times, that you see beyond a shadow of a doubt, that your marriage is certainly based on more than sexual gratification. My motto has always been that my husband can do for any other woman that he does for me, i.e. change their tires, help carry their groceries, ect…except sleep with them, as that is the very special bonding that we share together and only between ourselves. Both my husband and I have friends of the opposite sex but they are friends that respect us and the sanctity of our marriage and trying to instigate a relationship other than friends and professional wise, would never enter their minds, nor ours.
By HA BIBI on 10/30/2008 7:33 pm
Jane Goodwin
I guess I’m just old-fashioned, because I believe in keeping my promises and living up to pledges that I’ve made. It might not be trendy to be trustworthy any more, but I will always be so. Perhaps some people find the desire to do their own thing to be stronger than their desire to do the right thing; I’ve seen too many devastated children in my career to have much sympathy for an adult who decides his/her children aren’t as important as his/her freeeeeeeeedom to follow his/her hormones out the door. It takes two to tango, yes, but if just one of the pair declines to dance, there’s no tango. Sorry, ladies, but I can’t see that any excuses or reasons for infidelity are valid in any way; it all looks like immature, selfish, horny self-indulgence to me. There are all kinds of abuse, and having a spouse who chooses, of his/her own free will, to be untrustworthy and self-indulgent, is one of the worst kinds. Your children will understand when they grow up? Do you really believe that? Cry me a river, bitch. And grow up. (I’ve wanted to say that to hundreds of sobbing or smirking mothers of my devastated students for 26 years. Finally, I’ve done it!)
By Jane Goodwin on 10/30/2008 6:16 pm
HA BIBI
Perhaps some people find the desire to do their own thing to be stronger than their desire to do the right thing; By Jane Goodwin on 10/30/2008 7:16 pm Jane, How perfectly stated!!!
By HA BIBI on 10/30/2008 7:42 pm
Jane Goodwin
Thanks, Elaine.
By Jane Goodwin on 10/31/2008 1:27 am
Chips AHoey
it’s very telling, though, how little posting there has been in this thread… ;}
By Chips AHoey on 10/31/2008 8:00 am
Chrome Toe
chips - i was thinking the SAME EXACT thing… lol!
By Chrome Toe on 10/31/2008 9:18 am
DeBúrca obj
I don’t think monogamy is natural to human beings (especially men) but our society demands it of us and then is so shocked that we often fail. The nuclear family isn’t natural either, I think we are meant to live in a more communal society, yet we jam ourselves into this unnatural model. No wonder everyone is taking antidepressants and sleeping aids.
By DeBúrca obj on 10/31/2008 8:00 am