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Money | 10/16/2008 8:20 am

It's Not Over, Folks. Economy Still Going Down the Tubes

By The Staff at wowOwow.com
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More troubling economic signs sent Wall Street tumbling yesterday, but there are signs stocks may recover a bit today.

A day after the U.S. government announced a massive intervention that officials hoped would boost investor confidence, new data showed that consumers aren’t shopping, buying new cars and are opting to dress their kids in old clothes for school this year, instead of buying new ones. More economic data are due to be released today.

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke also warned that the nation should not expect an economic rebound any time soon.

“Stabilization of the financial markets is a critical first step, but even if they stabilize as we hope they will, broader economic recovery will not happen right away,” Bernanke said in a speech to the Economic Club of New York. “Economic activity will fall short of potential for a time.”

The Dow Jones Industrial average fell 733.08, or 7.9 percent, its second-biggest point drop in history, while the broader Standard & Poor’s 500-stock index sank 90.17 points, or 9 percent — the most since the “Black Monday” crash of 1987. U.S. retail data released Wednesday showed a 1.2 percent drop in sales in September — the sharpest decline in years. It was the third consecutive monthly fall and came during the height of the vital “back-to-school” shopping season.

The Treasury Department this week said it would spend $250 billion to take a temporary ownership stake in many of the nation’s banks and financial institutions to insure their debt. Bernanke also signaled that the central bank may again lower interest rates.

But the United States isn’t the only country affected by the credit crunch. Markets in Europe and Asia plunged Thursday and crude oil prices fell after seeing signs of a serious global economic slowdown.

Meanwhile, governments around the world are trying to shore up banks to keep the economy moving.

Reuters reports that European Union leaders, meeting in Brussels, are expected to call for action to combat economic decline, including support for industry.

Switzerland’s two largest banks — UBS and Credit Suisse — became the latest to say they were receiving emergency funding as the country’s government and other investors moved to shore them up. Switzerland gave UBS, the European bank with the biggest losses from the credit crisis, a $59.2 billion rescue and pushed Credit Suisse Group to raise funds.

Japan’s Prime Minister, Taro Aso, said Washington may need to pump even more cash into its banks to restore investor confidence. The European Central Bank said it would provide up to $6.83 billion to Hungary to pump up liquidity. And the International Monetary Fund was trying to find ways to aid Ukraine’s economy.

In other financial news:

-Citigroup posted its fourth straight quarterly loss — a total net loss of $2.82 billion, or 60 cents per share — hurt by increasing credit losses and write-downs tied to complex and low-quality debt, Reuters reports. It also laid off more employees.

-Merrill Lynch reported a third-quarter net loss of $7.5 billion on Thursday — worse than analysts expected — on write-downs and credit losses on complex debt securities. Merrill, which last month agreed to be taken over by Bank of America, also said it would issue $10 billion of non-voting preferred stock and related warrants to the U.S. Treasury under the government program that gave Bank of America $25 billion earlier this month.

-New data shows that weekly U.S. wages dropped by 2.5 percent in September compared to a year ago, the 12th straight month in which wages have been down. But the number of new people signing up for unemployment benefits last week dropped. Even with the decline, new claims totaled 461,000.

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Serena .
Thanks for cheering us up.
By Serena . on 10/16/2008 8:33 am
Rainbow Power
People have just gone through a horrendous period of high gas prices. As the result of this, grocery store items have skyrocketed. Some people made bad choices and bought homes and took mortgages way over their head. This was not very responsible to have done this but they done did it (I’m making a point by using this grammar). As Americans, we’ve been forced to accept the saving of the big fella banks, which will cause our children and grandchildren and perhaps great grandchildren to bear the burden of the follies of American politics. I don’t like this, but it’s been done. Kids may have to to wear old hand me down clothes. This won’t hurt them. I did it. When people lose their job or a medical problem arises, it becomes a crisis. I feel sorry for the parents who have always wanted to give their children everything they need, because I think every parent strives to do their best to provide for their kids.. It’s hard to tell kids who have always had nice clothes on their back and food in their bellies that Santa probably won’t come this year. Winter’s coming on and high heating prices could very well cause many more to go into foreclosure and or bankrupcy. Let’s all hope these numbers are few and that people will find a way to survive until relief is in sight for the strong Americans that we are. Stay Strong!
By Rainbow Power on 10/16/2008 8:51 am
Jennifer Dooley
are opting to dress their kids in old clothes for school this year, instead of buying new ones.” Out of Touch, Opting is not in the cards! It is not a choice for very very many! The just can not afford to buy all the trimmings for School. Have you ever seen one of those School Supply Lists. Then it is a different list for each kid! Yo! People are BROKE! Their GAS GAME over the Summer drained their pocketbooks with all the cost of living increases such unconscionable actions caused! Top it off with all the stress to keep a roof overhead in these Times Thanks To THE GAME WALL STREET AND SHADOW BANKING CAUSED! WHY would anyone want to hear from PAULSON. AIG, Partridge Hunting for the CEO’S at the tune of $86.000 for 8 people! AFter the second feed of funds! They were laughing according to the Castle keepers where they stayed! We must stop and make the changes our country needs! IT starts with Self and a whole revamping of D.C. Time to re-do our Constitution as well, It is suppose to be a Living Document. New currency is in order to! Then all those off shore funds that have been being poured into over the last 6 months. Well Paulson and all the rest of them, would have a little problem spending their Ill gotten funds! Bonus here too, All Illegal money, All Gone, it would be worthless!
By Jennifer Dooley on 10/16/2008 9:07 am
Jennifer Dooley
HELLO FRIENDSIT is National Girlfriend DAY… so for All YA Sistas http://beta.intent.com/blog/2008/10/16/its-national-girlfriend-day
By Jennifer Dooley on 10/16/2008 9:27 am
Eliza Dodd
Hey And Good Girl Friend Day to ALL ! Yeap NO CHRISTMAS HERE ! I have to pay bills and buy vitamins ..to stay alive …And my step kids got me back in the early 1990s I was buying $100 gym shoes and I was wearing $3.00 shoes from Dollar General …no kidding …wish i would of never bought the kids shoes like that …because now they think its tourture to wear $20 shoes …and say things to me to make me feel guilty …no kidding ..I just ignore them …and my Kids had TOY’S R US in their bedrooms …It wasnt worth it to me ..wish i would of bought them savings bonds …
By Eliza Dodd on 10/16/2008 9:41 am
Diana T
What a poorly written headline for this section. Where do we get the idea that this crisis is going to fix within a few days? It took years to get to this, and we are going to have to accept the notion that time will be required to heal it. A lot of time. For goodness sakes, we need to be talking about major reforms in how we conduct the nation’s business, and how we are going to jump start our industries, and then and just as important, how we can update our antiquated business models to work in the 21st century and how to interface the model with the EU and the rest of the world. But to simply state that the economy is going “down the tubes” is, at best, counter productive and fear inducing, and at worse a sign that we are in a hopeless situation. Also, it over- simplifies and discourages us from looking towards a way to brighter futures.
By Diana T on 10/16/2008 9:47 am
Joan Brown
This is a surprise? Not to me….
By Joan Brown on 10/16/2008 9:50 am
Sherrie Crews
I just have this terrible, sinking feeling that the picture at the top of this article is exactly what’s happening to our $700 billion.
By Sherrie Crews on 10/16/2008 10:02 am
Diana T
Here is a good article from Brookings in regards to fixing the economy. It’s complex, not easy to read. The difficulty needs to be understood, and just perhaps we can learn patience and pragmatism as we figure out what is going on, as well as learning something. http://www.brookings.edu/papers/2008/1010_rescue_package_baily_litan.asp…
By Diana T on 10/16/2008 10:18 am
Rainbow Power
At least the new Social Security COLA increase might keep some people from starving. Announced this morning, 5.8%, coupled with no increase in the Part B premium is much better than last year. Diana…thanks for that article.
By Rainbow Power on 10/16/2008 10:42 am
Dab-a- do
I’m so sad because new clothes for school children won’t be bought this year. People, wake up. When did we and our children become entitled? I kept asking my husband where was the money coming from that was paying for all the McMansions in our city. We knew that all the big manufacturing companies had closed down and gone overseas. When I traveled around the country to do my medical auditing work I could see no improvements in the infrastructure of the country. Were have people been? I actually made 1.2% in my 402(K). Lost a couple hundred dollars on a small IRA. Nothing like my friends but I didn’t have my head in the sand either. Took very little to know the bubble was going to burst and it is going to take a long while for us to turn things around, as Diana T. has said. But only if we have learned anything. I’m afraid that no one is willing to tightening their belts, make good financial decisions and live financially responsiblely. I so hope I am wrong because of my love for my kids, grandkids and soon to be great grandchild. I love my country too. It means so much to me. I get tears in my eyes when I read a head line like the one at the top of this post. (Another thing, the CEO’s and their big spending has got to stop. They are pushing it in our faces as if they are invincible.In another time they would have their heads roll)
By Dab-a- do on 10/16/2008 12:49 pm
Elizabeth Bennett
What tubes? Is this like river rafting? Or surfing? Why use such dramatic language? Why not just say that the transition from bubble to correct valuation will take a few years, which Bernanke told us a few weeks ago. [Bernanke, the expert on depressions and recessions.] Frankly I am happy to be getting out of the housing bubble. Paying $800,000 for a three bedroom house on a quarter acre did seem like a strange tax on humankind. [Of course I live in California, where the housing bubble may persist a whole lot longer.]
By Elizabeth Bennett on 10/16/2008 4:59 pm
Sherrie Crews
Partridge hunting is all they’ve been doing on our money Jennifer. http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93LVER00&show_article=1&catnum=… http://www.businesssheet.com/2008/10/bailout-execs-still-going-wild-aig-… Maybe I wouldn’t feel quite so sick at heart about this economic mess if I were to hear just one, just ONE member of the Bush administration (including the McPalin campaign) admit ALL the reasons this REALLY happened. Maybe then I could feel that they’d learned something from their mistakes. Yes, it was deregulation and yes it was greeed, in the end. That wasn’t the beginning though. The beginning was when they started paying companies to take middle class manufacturing based jobs overseas leaving our TRUE economy with no foundation. In order to keep two of the economic indicators (gross national product and unemployment rates) from showing what was really happening to the economy they found a way to disguise it. They built a bunch of very expensive houses and made it possible for people who couldn’t afford them to be conned into thinking they could. They made the housing market supersede the traditional GNP as an economic indicator. They also replaced traditional Unemployment Benefits with Trade Act benefits that aren’t counted in the unemployment figures that are used in calculating the unemployment rates. As these benefits expire these people are no longer on the unemployment rolls whether they have a job or not. The ones that were lucky enough to find work are even luckier if they’re making two thirds what they were before and have any health care benefits. All of those realities are still being overshadowed by bedazzling stock market gymnastics just like they have been for eight years. That very “misdirection” of our focus is what’s going to keep hiding the real problem in our economy. Those former manufacturing people out there making $30,000/yr with lousy if any benefits and no 401k at some retail job might not hate those CEOs for making billions quite so much if they still had their $60,000/yr, good family health care packages, 401ks, and pension plans. If that were the case though our economy would still be built on a foundation of productive consumers. Instead Bushonomics tried to build it on the debts incurred since they sold our means of productivity and encouraged us to continue to consume, consume, consume. “Here’s a $600 tax rebate, go buy a TV made in China.” “Here’s a low interest rate mortgage that will only go up as the economy strengthens and your earning power and equity increase. It’s an investment in your economic future.” “Here’s stock in a ‘Bridge to Nowhere’.
By Sherrie Crews on 10/17/2008 10:04 am