I LOVE Posting This …I Already told everybody so …I got my 80 yr old Rep Dad to go DEMOCRAT …..and all his friends ..because of my Health Care Hoor Story I opened thier eyes …cause they all have kids my age with NO Health Care and bad Bush No Nomics ..and they ALL Said They Wanted to Send Washington a MESSAGE …and here ya go …just what I said ..What I am talking about …They dont care and the rest of the People across this Land dont care No Mo about REPS in Office ..they made a Big Mess …Birds of a Feather have FLOCKED together …Voting for Obama anyway By Ben Smith / Politico I just got an astounding e-mail from a Republican consultant I know well. He’s a guy who’s always thought Obama had a “glass jaw,” and was always among those agitating for hitting Obama harder. Recently, he conducted a focus group in an upper-Midwestern state, showing them the kind of ad he thought would work: A no-holds-barred attack, cut for an independent group, which hasn’t aired. I’m just going to reprint his amazed e-mail about the focus group: Reagan Dems and Independents. Call them blue-collar plus. Slightly more Target than Walmart. Yes, the spot worked. Yes, they believed the charges against Obama. Yes, they actually think he’s too liberal, consorts with bad people and WON’T BE A GOOD PRESIDENT…but they STILL don’t give a f***. They said right out, “He won’t do anything better than McCain” but they’re STILL voting for Obama. The two most unreal moments of my professional life of watching focus groups: 54 year-old white male, voted Kerry ‘04, Bush ‘00, Dole ‘96, hunter, NASCAR fan…hard for Obama said: “I’m gonna hate him the minute I vote for him. He’s gonna be a bad president. But I won’t ever vote for another god-damn Republican. I want the government to take over all of Wall Street and bankers and the car companies and Wal-Mart run this county like we used to when Reagan was President.” The next was a woman, late 50s, Democrat but strongly pro-life. Loved B. and H. Clinton, loved Bush in 2000. “Well, I don’t know much about this terrorist group Barack used to be in with that Weather guy but I’m sick of paying for health insurance at work and that’s why I’m supporting Barack.” I felt like I was taking crazy pills. I sat on the other side of the glass and realized…this really is the Apocalypse. The Seventh Seal is broken and its time for eight years of pure, delicious crazy….

He seems to be a proud man that works for a living, thinks everyone should. His stand on social security was interesting… he said that he can take care of his parents and I’m sure that’s true however, if something happens to him they would be on their own. Many of us have managed to have some savings however, with costs over the last 10 years, it is not enough to ever retire. I don’t mind waiting until age 70 to do it but I’d prefer not to need a part time job after age 70 working for the CEO that got a golden parachute.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/16/joe-in-the-spotlight/?hp Joe the plumber is not a licensed plumber nor has he served an apprenticeship as a plumber—he’s a McCain voter and can we all say: “RInger” and a Shill for McCain.

I’m not believing a thing this guy says until I talk to his ex-wife.

An open letter to Plumber Joe. You know what Joe, you don’t get it….and the sad part is you never will. People like you flock to McCain Palin rallies and you do the rah-rah about Country First, you condemn Democrats as being socialists, liberals, abortion loving radicals. You cling to your political party and the American flag with an arrogance that only “you” can be labeled a true American. It is obvious you are a Republican and can’t and won’t be honest with yourself. You don’t want to say who you are voting for hiding behind the all too familiar phrase “that’s why they call them private voting booths” Yeah, whatever Joe. You and everyone with even two connected brain cells knows there is no way under God’s green Earth you or your friends would ever vote for Barack Obama, so cut the crap. 8 years ago George W. Bush said all of the same things you are being told now by McCain. And 4 years later you fell for the same song and dance from Bush. How he is “a true American and has America’s best interest at heart and will work hard for the working class man”. Remember that Joe? Remember Gore and then Kerry being villanized by the Republicans as not being worthy of understanding the needs of the “average Joe” and middle class. How it wasn’t the Democrats that had people like you at heart, no… it was the Republican Party. It would be the Republicans that would lead our country to even greater prosperity than we were at the time coming off the heels of President Clinton’s leadership. Things were great when Bush took office and then he did exactly what those “bleeding heart, socialist, tree-hugging, baby killing un-American Democrats” said Bush would do. He focused on making the rich richer and the middle class slipped lower and lower and lower. And here we are in the 11th hour of the most pivotal campaign for U.S. President in our nation’s history and people like you have the GALL to try and turn the calendar back to 1958 instead of 2008 and play race wars. Name calling. Yeah you Joe. I heard from your own mouth crap about how you’re a true American (implying others are not) and how you have a problem with people that question the war. How you don’t believe in social security because you don’t want anyone telling you what to do with your money, especially not the government. “We’re becoming a bunch of Socialists.” Curious Joe….what exactly should we do with the millions of your fellow American who survive on Social Security. Who rely on those benefits to make it from day to day. People to no fault of their own weren’t able to succeed in life enough to squirrel away millions for retirement. What about them Joe? The internet is reporting that you reported an income of $40,000 last year. Really Joe? And at that rate you really believe you can save up enough money to retire WITHOUT government assistant? On and on you railed against the government of a country that you claim to love so much. You voiced your opinion about closed borders. Really Joe? Let’s keep those foreigners out of our country from taking our American Jobs. Can’t have them taking plumbing jobs from honest Americans like you who make sure they are licensed to do plumbing…..oops! What was I thinking, you don’t have a license to be a plumber. I have nothing but pity for people who think like you do and I pray that on November 4th Americans of every race, ethnicity and religion will remind themselves of the last 8 years and the manner in which McCain has run his campaign. Not just from the standpoint of the slurs against Obama, but LITERALLY run his campaign. Keep in mind Joe the candidates choose their campaign executives and operatives. They choose the men and women that decide what talking points to use, budgets, advertisements, donation objectives. They choose their running mates. Obama chose Biden and McCain chose Palin. A woman who McCain himself said knows she was vetted “as much if not more” as all the others who were being considered. Palin over the Governors from Florida and Minnesota? Palin over Mitt Romney? Out of every other American in our country McCain chose Palin as the most qualified to hold the second highest office in our country. This is the judgment of John McCain that you respect Joe? This is a man who is arguing his judgment to lead our nation is better than Barack Obama. And this is true based on what comparison Joe? Because as Palin says “Obama pals around with terrorist” Something even you know isn’t true. McCain the man that mocks Obama’s oratory skills as if being educated and articulate is something to be snickered at. Education = Elitist. And now the reports are all over the internet that you don’t even have a plumbing license and that you were never really planning on starting your own plumbing business. Things are going to get really embarrassing for you and your son because of the nation’s spotlight on you, and who do you have to thank for this Joe….John McCain. It was John McCain that chose to use you as a talking point during the debate to play off his running mate’s line of relating to the “average Joe” You’re right, you are not a Matt Damon, no where near. You are a speck compared to Matt Damon. He DOES care about what happens to the least among us. He DOES care about our troops and recognizes that it is important to look at how we got INTO the mess we are in, in order to get OUT of it. And unlike you he is not a typical “average Joe” sitting on his sofa espousing his complaints about America and politicians, pointing the finger as to how “we’re becoming a bunch of socialists” lamenting about foreigners coming into our country from across the borders, etc. etc. etc. While all the while he himself is earning a living illegally, going against county and state rules and guidelines. All the while going on and on about how proud he is to be an American, yet bashing its fundamentals at every turn. Its people like you that look at people like me and claim we’re not real Americans. Well I would debate you any time anywhere on that subject Sir, and I assure you I would come out the winner. I understand the true meaning and fundamentals of what an American is….I get it…..and you don’t!

Yes the last 8 yrs the pres. has been Republican, and if you think back gas was like 2 bucks in 2004-2005, Well the congress, at that same time was mainly Republican, Oh but then 2006 came and everybody wanted CHANGE, and well they got it, Democrats have been in the majority since then, and Ms Belinda with all due respect, I DO NOT AGREE, I am in the lower middle income class

Wow! After reading all these post it just shows how stupid people in America truly are. To the girl that got your grandfather to vote for Obama he is probably just confused about what you are telling him. To the girl that is tired of paying for medical insurance (which I do to) didn’t the last democrat aka ( Bill Clinton- mr. BJ himself)promise to change that for you. I talk to people everyday from Canada that are following our debates and then even see how stupid people in this country are that believe anything Obama says. Go McCain/ Palin!!!!!! From this taxpayer and all my friends in Canada!

belinda, i disagreed with you on another thread, but you are eloquent here and so right.