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Julia Reed | 06/02/2008 10:59 am

Julia Reed: I Have Always Been (or Tried To Be) a Good Presbyterian Girl

Julia Reed

I have always been (or tried to be) a good Presbyterian girl. It’s too late to change now anyway. Mainly because it always makes me a nervous wreck to take Communion in other churches — all the kneeling and hoping you don’t dribble wine from the cup all over your chin, not to mention the solemnity you have to muster when you walk back to your pew in front of everybody. In the Presbyterian church, they bring Communion to you — the grape juice (no wine for us) is in little shot glasses stuck in slots on a nice silver tray that is passed down each pew. Very, very civilized. Also, we pray in our seats, which is another huge plus since my knees are shot. The last time I was in an Episcopal church with my father, they passed the peace and everybody was speaking to each other and hugging, and I thought he was going to pass out.

Clearly, we Presbyterians are a self-contained lot, a trait that does not appeal to everyone. After the Vietnam War was over, my father was on President Ford’s Refugee Committee and he insisted that the Presbyterian church in our town in Mississippi adopt a family. Their name was Muon and they had five children, and they all lived in our pool house for about three months until the congregation could get their house ready. It was very jolly and the children were adorable and they were always thanking us by making fish head soup and other such delicacies, which my mother always threw down the drain as soon as they were gone.

Anyway, Mrs. Muon had another child just after they arrived and they were so overwhelmed by the generosity of the Presbyterians, all of whom had donated furniture and clothes, that they named him John Calvin Muon, which was, of course, hilarious. Muon turned out to be a bit of a racist, which is not a good thing ever, but especially not if you are starting your life over and looking for any employment in the Mississippi Delta. About two years into it, he packed up the whole family, including the young John Calvin, and went to join his cousins who’d been taken in by the Baptists in Texas. I have often wondered how much longer John Calvin was called John Calvin.

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dolllady
Julia….yes I also was one of those Presbyterian girls. I have this beautiful pin with a wreath and 6 years worth of bars to recognize my perfect attendance. We also had the silver holders for the tiny shot glasses which held the grape juice. Of course, we couldn’t participate in communion until we joined the church. My church membership was celebrated about the time I became a teenager (I think…it’s been many years ago). The one thing I couldn’t understand was why did our Presbyterian church only sprinkle holy water at baptism rather than immersion/submersion like some of the other local churches. I have always wondered if I really have been baptised since I was only sprinkled with holy water.
By dolllady on 06/02/2008 12:16 pm
JosieSullivan
Julia- I love to read your posts and your voice (on the interview recording with Lily) takes me back to my southern roots. You sound like my memory of my mother’s accent. Someone I miss very much! I was born in Memphis but at 9 months we moved to Chicago (in the 60’s) and I was christened at the Fourth Presbyterian Church. I used to tell people that our church was across the street from the John Hancock building and my mother would sweetly (like a good southern woman) correct me. She would say, “Honey, our church is not across from the Hancock building…. the Hancock building is across from our church” meaning The Fourth Pres. was there first and let’s not forget it.
By JosieSullivan on 06/02/2008 12:19 pm
Toddie
I have seen t-shirts that read “Presbyterians do it decently and in good order.” Seems to about cover it, I think.
By Toddie on 06/02/2008 12:22 pm
PamelaMunro
Also spent my time with the Presbyterians. I was a teenager and disillusioned that the only one interested in the history of the Protestant Reformation in Sunday School was ME! Such a purist. Only came back to church years later.
By PamelaMunro on 06/02/2008 3:11 pm
marylous
pamela, luther rebelled BECAUSE he believed. i was shocked by the notion of concubines servicing the pope. call me just another prissy american.
By marylous on 06/02/2008 4:01 pm
SueG
Another ex-Midwestern Presbyterian here too! I was basically raised thinking everything was allowed - just in moderation. I actually also went to a Presbyterian sponsored College where I not only had to go to chapel once a week but also studied the reformation and church history as a liberal arts requirement. Now as an adult I only go inside a church for weddings or funerals.
By SueG on 06/02/2008 4:38 pm
Bonnie Oliver
I was not raised Presbyterian but we had that same communion service. As you sat in a pew the tray would be passed to you and then you would have to take your “shot glass” and then pass the tray filled with other shot glasses down to the next person in the pew. Was the tray heavy? Oh, Lord yes! Sometimes I was praying I would not tilt or God Help Me drop the tray before the communion part of the service even began. What a memory. Thank you, Doll Lady.
By Bonnie Oliver on 06/02/2008 5:45 pm
DonaHowlett
These comments bring back so many memories for me. After our Communion of passing the silver trays filled with little shot glasses was completed the trays would be taken to a back room behind the pulpit. I would sneak back there and drink all the tiny drops left in each glass, I always hoped God would not punish me for doing that. I would watch my mother take them home with us and wash and prepare them for the next communion service. I’ve never had grape juice since that tasted as sweet as those little drops. I still have several of the little tiny glasses with all of my Antique glass ware. I don’t take communion anymore but I love those little glasses.
By DonaHowlett on 06/03/2008 1:21 am
FrannieEm
Joan love your article. Especially the story about the John Calvin Muon. Have never been to a Presbyterian church, but found your description interesting. Thanks for the peek.
By FrannieEm on 06/03/2008 3:00 am
ChrisBroersma
Great article! I’m from the Episcopal Church and love the hugging and closeness! I spent 30 years in my husband’s “keep your distance! I have 18 inches of protection zone…um, church (Calvinist denomination too!)!” . It was hard for the affectionate part of me and I’ve returned.
By ChrisBroersma on 06/03/2008 10:52 am
ENWalters
That Presbyterian motto “decently and in order” seems to dominate my life - raised (& still am) Presbyterian, graduated from a Presbyterian college, worked summers at a Presbyterian camp, do community theater at the Presbyterian Community Center, am the clerk of Session. For me there’s a real comfort in my Presbyterian roots. I worked for 17 years at a Catholic high school, and there were many rituals of Roman Catholic worship that I really enjoyed, but the Presbyterian church is ultimately my home. I love the decency and orderliness of communion served by trays, and the beautiful simplicity of baptism by sprinkling (whether it be an infant or an octogeneranian receiving the sacrament). I guess I will always be a dyed-in-the-wool good Presby girl. Just one question…why are so many TV and movie characters Presbyterian? Is it just a fun word for script writers to make an actor say?
By ENWalters on 06/03/2008 4:16 pm
JB1
Wasn’t raised with any “formal” religious practices. On Sundays my Father and I would take long drives in the California foothills…I had two eccentric Baptist Aunts who would shriek at him during their annual visits…wanting him to “put that child in church!” He would always stay calm…always replying “We go to the mountains every Sunday, I think they are the finest Church ever built, and I know who built them…she can choose a church when she’s grown, if that is what she wants.” I became a Presbyterian at the age of forty, and I love my church, the congregation, and really…is there anything better than a church’s covered dish supper in the South??
By JB1 on 06/04/2008 10:11 am