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Liz Smith | 09/11/2008 10:00 am

Liz Smith Responds to Those Who Want to Tie Sarah Palin to the Stake, Setting Her Afire Before the Nov. 4 Election

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Honeys … please! Give me a break. I had no intention of "lecturing" you on how to treat Sarah Palin . I just wanted us to calm down a bit about the incipient GOP vice president before our furor at this veep choice explodes in our faces. And backfires on us.

Let’s get things totally straight here. I wasn’t backtracking. I haven’t changed my mind; I could never vote for a ticket that had Sarah Palin on it. She is anti almost everything I believe in except “the zipper and the dial telephone,” as Tallulah once opined of Republican candidate Tom Dewey. 

I would ride to hell in a handbasket for the talented Julia Reed and for my other wOw partners who are conservatives, worried about having to pay more taxes. For this they are willing to shut their eyes to the antideluvian (and I believe, immoral) beliefs of the Republican Party. I violently disagree with them. If they think I’m a little to the left of Trotsky, I think they are a little to the right of Franco, Mussolini and that German guy.      

I honestly feel as if I will perish if I have to live through an administration in which she is there, stealing all the thunder from her own president.

But through the years I’ve managed to be friends with William F. Buckley Jr., Roy Cohn, Ronald Reagan, George Bush Sr., Taki Theodoracopulos, Rudy Giuliani, Pat Buchanan and to have a civil dialogue with them. I suppose old-fashioned manners and differences of opinion die hard.

OK, sweetie pies, go crazy for all I care. March on the Palin headquarters with flaming torches. I don’t want her to win anymore than most of you seem to. I honestly feel as if I will perish if I have to live through an administration in which she is there, stealing all the thunder from her own president. And being written of as a glamorous maverick for four years. (No matter how the media may hate her, they will eat her up and lick their chops if she continues as a public figure.) Or if I have to live through seeing the Supreme Court add just one more conservative Justice which will be the end of Western Civilization as we know it.

I was just saying that we might back off a bit from hysteria before we go to vote. Sometimes violent diatribes backfire and if the Democrats are as crazed by Sarah Palin as they seem to be, this may embolden Republicans and those who haven’t yet decided to go for her as a rebuke to overkill.

I would say if you want to read a reasoned response, again, you should go to Newsweek for September 15th and just take a look at Anna Qindlin’s reasoning under the headline “Can You Say ‘Sexist’?: If you’re a Republican, you’d better learn. The right wing that trashed the women’s movement suddenly finds its inner feminist.”

I used to like John McCain. But he lost me when that woman in his audience asked: “How do we beat the bitch?” (referring to Hillary Clinton) and he responded of his friend and colleague in the Senate: “Excellent question.”        

So, OK, I thought Sarah Palin was an appalling choice. I was just overtaken by my Miss Manners training when I suggested we might damp it down a bit. We have 60 days to work to change things. My only wish is that Barack Obama had chosen Hillary Clinton as his vice-presidential choice. When Hillary debated Sarah, nobody could accuse either one of them of being unfair or sexist.  

But if wishes were horses we all could ride. Now I am just going to cool my jets, unbuckle my saddle and take off my spurs. Somebody spurt some cool water on my head. 

Click here on this text to read my New York Post column.

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No Kill and Drill Palin
GT— Tom Delay/The Heritage Foundation wrote/printed/distributed a booklet to thousands of GOP activists around the country with the stated mission: “We are not going to debate liberals, we are going to use Stalinist tactics to wipe them off the face of this earth.” Obviously you are not paying attention because 1) GWB’s Grandfather Prescott Bush helped fund Hitler’s rise and had his bank seized by the Government under the Trading with the Enemy Act. The only reason he wasn’t prosecuted is that we were in WWII and there was too much of a drain on government resources. 2) The definition of fascism is any government owned/controlled/directed by private concerns. Our government is directed by the oil/multinationals/military contractors. 3) Here are the 14 points of Fascism—- written in 2004 by Dr. Laurence Britt, a political scientist. Dr. Britt studied the fascist regimes of: Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile). 4) The whole world refers to Bush as Hitler and Karl Rove takes his playbook directly from Hitler propagandist, (see the post following this which shows Gobbels propaganda blueprint that is used to the letter by Rove. 5) In an MSNBC poll asking who is the worst vilian, OBL, Saddam, King Jong II, the Prez of Iran, GWB, or Satan…..Bush FAR AND AWAY won the poll as the worst villian in the world…he far outpolled Satan. 14 POINTS OF FASCISM 1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism From the prominent displays of flags and bunting to the ubiquitous lapel pins, the fervor to show patriotic nationalism, both on the part of the regime itself and of citizens caught up in its frenzy, was always obvious. Catchy slogans, pride in the military, and demands for unity were common themes in expressing this nationalism. It was usually coupled with a suspicion of things foreign that often bordered on xenophobia. 2. Disdain for the importance of human rights The regimes themselves viewed human rights as of little value and a hindrance to realizing the objectives of the ruling elite. Through clever use of propaganda, the population was brought to accept these human rights abuses by marginalizing, even demonizing, those being targeted. When abuse was egregious, the tactic was to use secrecy, denial, and disinformation. 3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause The most significant common thread among these regimes was the use of scapegoating as a means to divert the people’s attention from other problems, to shift blame for failures, and to channel frustration in controlled directions. The methods of choice—relentless propaganda and disinformation—were usually effective. Often the regimes would incite “spontaneous” acts against the target scapegoats, usually communists, socialists, liberals, Jews, ethnic and racial minorities, traditional national enemies, members of other religions, secularists, homosexuals, and “terrorists.” Active opponents of these regimes were inevitably labeled as terrorists and dealt with accordingly. 4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism Ruling elites always identified closely with the military and the industrial infrastructure that supported it. A disproportionate share of national resources was allocated to the military, even when domestic needs were acute. The military was seen as an expression of nationalism, and was used whenever possible to assert national goals, intimidate other nations, and increase the power and prestige of the ruling elite. 5. Rampant sexism Beyond the simple fact that the political elite and the national culture were male-dominated, these regimes inevitably viewed women as second-class citizens. They were adamantly anti-abortion and also homophobic. These attitudes were usually codified in Draconian laws that enjoyed strong support by the orthodox religion of the country, thus lending the regime cover for its abuses. 6. A controlled mass media Under some of the regimes, the mass media were under strict direct control and could be relied upon never to stray from the party line. Other regimes exercised more subtle power to ensure media orthodoxy. Methods included the control of licensing and access to resources, economic pressure, appeals to patriotism, and implied threats. The leaders of the mass media were often politically compatible with the power elite. The result was usually success in keeping the general public unaware of the regimes’ excesses. 7. Obsession with national security Inevitably, a national security apparatus was under direct control of the ruling elite. It was usually an instrument of oppression, operating in secret and beyond any constraints. Its actions were justified under the rubric of protecting “national security,” and questioning its activities was portrayed as unpatriotic or even treasonous. 8. Religion and ruling elite tied together Unlike communist regimes, the fascist and protofascist regimes were never proclaimed as godless by their opponents. In fact, most of the regimes attached themselves to the predominant religion of the country and chose to portray themselves as militant defenders of that religion. The fact that the ruling elite’s behavior was incompatible with the precepts of the religion was generally swept under the rug. Propaganda kept up the illusion that the ruling elites were defenders of the faith and opponents of the “godless.” A perception was manufactured that opposing the power elite was tantamount to an attack on religion. 9. Power of corporations protected Although the personal life of ordinary citizens was under strict control, the ability of large corporations to operate in relative freedom was not compromised. The ruling elite saw the corporate structure as a way to not only ensure military production (in developed states), but also as an additional means of social control. Members of the economic elite were often pampered by the political elite to ensure a continued mutuality of interests, especially in the repression of “have-not” citizens. 10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated Since organized labor was seen as the one power center that could challenge the political hegemony of the ruling elite and its corporate allies, it was inevitably crushed or made powerless. The poor formed an underclass, viewed with suspicion or outright contempt. Under some regimes, being poor was considered akin to a vice. 11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts Intellectuals and the inherent freedom of ideas and expression associated with them were anathema to these regimes. Intellectual and academic freedom were considered subversive to national security and the patriotic ideal. Universities were tightly controlled; politically unreliable faculty harassed or eliminated. Unorthodox ideas or expressions of dissent were strongly attacked, silenced, or crushed. To these regimes, art and literature should serve the national interest or they had no right to exist. 12. Obsession with crime and punishment Most of these regimes maintained Draconian systems of criminal justice with huge prison populations. The police were often glorified and had almost unchecked power, leading to rampant abuse. “Normal” and political crime were often merged into trumped-up criminal charges and sometimes used against political opponents of the regime. Fear, and hatred, of criminals or “traitors” was often promoted among the population as an excuse for more police power. 13. Rampant cronyism and corruption Those in business circles and close to the power elite often used their position to enrich themselves. This corruption worked both ways; the power elite would receive financial gifts and property from the economic elite, who in turn would gain the benefit of government favoritism. Members of the power elite were in a position to obtain vast wealth from other sources as well: for example, by stealing national resources. With the national security apparatus under control and the media muzzled, this corruption was largely unconstrained and not well understood by the general population. 14. Fraudulent elections Elections in the form of plebiscites or public opinion polls were usually bogus. When actual elections with candidates were held, they would usually be perverted by the power elite to get the desired result. Common methods included maintaining control of the election machinery, intimidating and disenfranchising opposition voters, destroying or disallowing legal votes, and, as a last resort, turning to a judiciary beholden to the power elite. _________ Joseph Goebbels: The Karl Rove of Nazi Germany “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” – Joseph Goebbels By exploiting emotions and by employing all modern methods of propaganda Goebbels helped Hitler into power. Goebbels’ Principles of Propaganda: Propagandist must have access to intelligence concerning events and public opinion, must be planned and executed by only one authority. [Herr Rove], must explain propaganda directives to important officials. [Fox News receives its talking points directly from the GOP and repeats the same thing over and over 24/7 through the news cycle, ditto Rush, Coulter, Savage, etc.] Must be transmitted through an attention-getting communications medium, facilitated by leaders with prestige, carefully timed, ahead of competing propaganda, theme must be repeated, must label events and people with distinctive phrases or slogans, must create an optimum anxiety level, must reinforce anxiety concerning the consequences of defeat, specifying the target for hatred. Further GT “What we are” ? “We” are not a monolithe. “There is nothing at all even close to Nazi and Hitler in the Republican party” alot of people think otherwise. Gitmo? Abu Grahib? Illegally invading another country? Backdoor draft with multiple tours of duty? Spying on citizens? Long list.
By No Kill and Drill Palin on 09/11/2008 10:26 pm
Bonita Caracciolo
GT: What a laugh! What a monumental hoot!
By Bonita Caracciolo on 09/14/2008 1:00 pm
Bonita Caracciolo
GT: Adolf Hilter was born in Austria, but when he died he died a German. Why else would he constantly shriek “Deutschland uber alles!” I might be mistaken and perhaps he didn’t legally change his citizenship, but for all intents and purposes, HELLO! I’ve said this in other threads. Passion causes good people to say crazy things. I see you refer to Governor Palin as “Sarah”. Do you know her? I was raised to use the first names of people I knew only. I think it’s a little chummy to refer to her by her first name, but then, come to think of it, a lot of people call Senator Clinton “Hillary”. Do you notice that no one ever says “John” (McCain) or “George” (the Prez)? I think there’s some sexism going on there. But I said I was going to say the GSP word anymore. (Governer Sarah Palin).
By Bonita Caracciolo on 09/14/2008 4:46 pm
DeBúrca obj
Did you hear the Craig Ferguson monologue afterward? It was fantastic. Here it is in 2 videos, you have to scroll down for the second: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/11/11651/5961/422/594525
By DeBúrca obj on 09/11/2008 12:29 pm
phyllis Doyle Pepe
I just watched the videos–––––––this guy is great! I’ve never seen him before–-heard about him, but never have watched his show––much too late. Not only is he very funny, he is clever and charming and informative and I love the accent! Thanks so much, DeB.
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 09/11/2008 12:52 pm
Dona Howlett
Phyllis, TEVO…………………
By Dona Howlett on 09/16/2008 2:46 am
Sandi Pravecek
John McCain and Sarah Palin reminds me of Prince Charles and Princess Diana. He was completely overshadowed and the press was absolutely enchanted with her. I don’t want the VP to be the focus of a campaign or a Presidency, especially someone that we only heard of 3 weeks ago. The President is in charge and in this campaign, I think John McCain has lost control. If I hear the story about that stupid bridge one more time….
By Sandi Pravecek on 09/11/2008 11:34 am
g c
Sandi, I found your analogy quite witty. Princess Di what a lovely classy woman, I always admired the way she protected her boys as best she could considering the position she was in and the ins and outs of the monarchy. Sure Princess Di had her flaws but in my book she was a far more enchanting subject than our vp pick. People really related to her and found her to be empathetic, to me she was someone who brought out the best in people. She certainly did upstage her husband and the rest of the family.
By g c on 09/11/2008 12:13 pm
DeBúrca obj
Sarah Palin is the human version of that phrase in the Wizard of Oz, “Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.” It’s all smoke, mirrors and distraction… it’s all they have. I see you John McCain you can’t hide behind that curtain!
By DeBúrca obj on 09/11/2008 12:31 pm
g c
Wizard of Oz, the man behind the curtain, that is really funny. I am a native Kansan and sometimes the Wizard of Oz stuff seems a little stale and we get a little tired of it but I sure got a big laugh on that one. Its just a dog (pitbull)and pony show, haha I saw one of the comedians remark that they had some trouble in Toys R Us it seems the Sarah Palin Doll shot My Little Pony.
By g c on 09/11/2008 2:44 pm
Barbara Taylor
Dog and pony show….. smoke and mirrors” That’s cable news at work. I was watching Anderson Cooper last night when Palin was landing in AK. He said something like - would you believe we would *have* to be here to watch a VP hopeful land. My thought was you didn’t have to, no one commanded you, it was the medias choice to start this circus.
By Barbara Taylor on 09/11/2008 5:27 pm
sanders c
Liz, Points taken. But you might want to take a walk on the wild side and visit some other sites. The internet is not classy or polite. Everyone has an equal voice and the sentiments are not always pretty— especially when deeply felt. Compared to rest of the web, we are actually quite respectful. http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2008/09/10/palin_feminism/index.html?so… http://jezebel.com/
By sanders c on 09/11/2008 11:34 am
BookMomma LibraryLady
Liz, your comments were right on. I guess that I still have a problem with some of those who supported Hillary now jumping on the McCain/Palin bandwagon. There is NO COMPARISON with Hillary and Palin. Sheesh!
By BookMomma LibraryLady on 09/11/2008 11:37 am
Linda Mason
Liz — Please! give us a break and spare us yet another lecture on how to treat Sarah Palin. The GOP is doing enough of that already! But if you must (sigh), please don’t employ such divisive, over-the-top language and hackneyed images! Examples: “Those who would tie Palin to the stake…,” and depicting anti-Palin commentators as marching on HQ with “flaming torches,” and victims of “hysteria!” Such language is an insult to those of us who have objected to Palin based on her Record! What does such language accomplish? I guess it grabs attention for your post (both pro and con), but is it worth it? There has been a lot of talk on this site lately about civility, but your use of such insulting language will only encourage the pro-Palin visitors to this site to use similar language in the future against those whith contrary views! I think that’s the opposite of what you intended! Frankly, I think the debate about the debate about Palin is 180 degrees off course. We should be talking about the use of indiscriminate charges of “sexism,” or demeaning images such as you used, to muzzle certain portions of the political debate. The words “sexism” and “sexist” have been used indiscriminately on this site by some (not all) to refer to any negative comment about a female candidate (Palin or HRC). As a result, those words have been rendered meaningless even for those who use them correctly! Moreover, IMO other conduct is far more offensive than calling SP “Caribou Barbie,” or using strong rhetoric. In particular, it is indefensible to pass along unsubstantiated rumors, falsehoods, and/or half-truths. These are alot more damaging. We can all recognize blow-hard rhetoric for what it is — okay? But when a person passes along an unsubstantiated rumor as “fact,” well, that is alot harder to detect, and therefor a lot more invidious.
By Linda Mason on 09/11/2008 11:39 am
Bonita Caracciolo
Wow, you go Linda Mason!
By Bonita Caracciolo on 09/14/2008 4:49 pm