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Liz Smith | 08/20/2008 9:15 am

That Famous, Insignificant Pitcher of Spit!

Liz Smith

“It ain’t worth a pitcher of hot spit!”

This is how John Nance Garner described the office of the vice president of the United States. But these days it seems to mean more.

I feel the long primary process, running up to the Democratic and GOP conventions, has exhausted potential voters and many are disillusioned. There is definite “buyer’s remorse” over Barack Obama’s nomination and in New York he has dropped over ten points in his lead. John McCain was never a big favorite of the conservative GOP and as he swerved to the right, he erased his attractive maverick image and irritated middle-of-the-road and independent voters.

Both candidates are imperfect. So perhaps the choice of a running mate has never been so important, except for when JFK selected Lyndon Johnson. And while experts keep saying that polls indicate nobody pays attention to the vice-presidential candidate, in this case it matters. The office is a kind of antidote this year to general disillusion. 

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Even when Hillary Clinton isn’t listed anymore as a running mate, people invariably drift into speaking of her or writing her in on many polls. She made quite an impact and many believe Obama should be brave enough to risk alienating some of his supporters because she’d help him in the race.

And I don’t think all that talk about Bill being the 2,000-pound gorilla in the room makes sense. Senator Clinton knows how her husband’s intransigence hurt her campaign. If she became veep I believe he’d be completely sidelined. She has learned her lesson and now is more famous and important than he is.

In a CBS poll of Democratic delegates, taken after the John Edwards debacle, Hillary ended up at 28 percent, Joe Biden had only 6 percent and Evan Bayh, Bill Richardson and, get this, John Edwards, tied at 4 percent each. So like her or not, Hillary is still a player and at the moment may be the most dynamic woman in U.S. history.

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Joe Biden of Delaware seems like Obama’s favorite. He is good-looking, smart, capable and knows international affairs. Of course, he talks too much but lately seems to have “caught on” to his faults. The problem is he is very much a Senate veteran, so forget the “change” idea. He also sucks all the air out of the room. (Shades of Bill Clinton.)

If Obama selects either Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas or Claire McCaskill of Missouri, I don’t think it will help him. Women would say, “Why not Hillary in that case?”

Bill Richardson is a good guy who’d appeal to Latinos but I think he’s made for a cabinet post. He is sincere but not an eloquent speaker. Evan Bayh and Chris Dodd. Come on – way too steadfast, old-fashioned, not meant for the “change” ticket. Virginia hasn’t voted for a Democrat in ages, so Governor Tim Kaine could double down on “change.” He has an important swing state and a chance.

Caroline Kennedy, who is on the selection committee? Well, it’s quite an idea. I don’t know what she’d deliver actually, but she is good-looking, smart, well-educated, rich, connected, very much her own person. No scandal has ever touched her, though people are not crazy about her husband.

She might be an appealing choice – female, impeccable, connected via Uncle “Teddy” and her legendary family name.

83 Reader Comments (so far…) Sign In or Register to comment

Chrome Toe
I have a hard time picturing an Obama/Hillary ticket after the campaign. It probably makes a huge amount of sense but it doesn’t “feel right”. With that said I actually popped over to this thread to comment on an old thread that I got to late and no one was on anymore. Liz - or anyone at wow - on the “liz answers the Edwards critics” thread she posted specifically to me regarding my saying I was “tired” of the Edwards story. I was on a trip with no computer and wasn’t on the site for almost a week. by the time I came back there were nine million posts on that thread so I didn’t get to respond. No one went back to it. But I never said I was tired of John Edwards story. I said I was tired of being treated like an idiot by politicians. And I was not one of the people villifying the media for talking about Edwards. I saw the damage he could have done and believed it was an important issue. I do however find it quite an honor to be misquoted by one of the most famous gossip columnists in the country! Kelly Kelly - AKA Honeychild
By Chrome Toe on 08/20/2008 9:01 am
phyllis Doyle Pepe
An honor, indeed. Glad you cleared that up and I think your AKA should forever stand you in good stead.
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 08/20/2008 10:10 am
Christina
It’s all a great big guessing-game until you - and the rest of the world- will know for sure, isn’t it? None of the people I’ve talked to, in my little Swedish pond, trust either Obama or McCain. I’m so glad I don’t have to vote….
By Christina on 08/20/2008 9:14 am
phyllis Doyle Pepe
Christina over there in the Swedish pond why don’t the people there trust either one of these candidates? Give us the skinny or the scummy pond ponderings as it were.
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 08/20/2008 10:05 am
Christina
To tell you the truth Phyllis - they haven’t given me any good reasons so far. All they say is “I trust neither of them”. Wish I could have a better answer for you.
By Christina on 08/20/2008 1:41 pm
Christina
Ooops! Forgot to add; Swedisg politicians aren’t trusted either!
By Christina on 08/20/2008 1:45 pm
phyllis Doyle Pepe
Guess they must be a jaded bunch––maybe they know something we don’t.
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 08/20/2008 5:19 pm
Christina
That might be the case with the persons I’ve talked to. If I’d been more knowledgeable (spelling?) in politics, I might have been able to get better answers. I’m not. Politicians, at least the Swedish one, can’t be jaded… that would mean they actually had to work…. I doubt very much they’d lasted even one hour in any profession.
By Christina on 08/20/2008 5:41 pm
K O
Liz notes that “Joe Biden … is good looking,…” Really? I’m thinking about a lot in this election. “Good looking” hasn’t made my list yet, but if that’s what it takes to fix the economy, put the war on terror back where it belongs, stop torture and restore the Constitution - then I’ll certainly consider that, too. But, what if I don’t think he’s good looking? Should I find somebody cuter?
By K O on 08/20/2008 10:34 am
Maurine H
Good looking”? Have we really become that shallow? I agree with you, Kitty, “good looking” isn’t a factor for me, either. I want a VP who’ll round out the ticket with added experience and knowledge. Someone who is smart, ethical, and committed to the re-building of an America we can be proud of and relate to again. Someone who respects the President, holds the same ideals and believes in the principles of the Constitution. “Good looking” is Hollywood terminology. I’m hoping for clear-thinking.
By Maurine H on 08/20/2008 12:01 pm
Lorraine Bates
Maurine: ““Good looking”? Have we really become that shallow?” Well… You get elected president on TV, by and large, so it is important. Remember the Kennedy/Nixon debate? Those that heard it on the radio thought Nixon won. Those that saw the shining smile and good looks of JFK on TV thought Kennedy won. Would this country have elected FDR, if we’d seen him in his wheelchair, rather than just heard him on the radio?
By Lorraine Bates on 08/20/2008 12:34 pm
Susan B
Unfortunately for those of us who prefer to take the high road in our decision-making, “good looking” is a terrific advantage in all aspects of our culture. It’s human nature, more than Hollywood’s fault, I think. It’s not that we’ve “become that shallow”, it’s that we ARE that shallow. Also, many in our country base their opinions on look and feel, rather than thinking them through. It’s easier that way. That’s why we need a greater emphasis on critical thinking in our educational system.
By Susan B on 08/20/2008 3:17 pm
K O
Hi Susan, When I read your comment regarding the need for a greater emphasis on critical thinking in our educational system, I thought, “What an incredibly smart woman!” I agree, wholeheartedly.
By K O on 08/20/2008 4:57 pm
Susan B
Aw shucks. We’re ALL pretty smart cookies here, wouldn’t you say? That’s why I enjoy this site so much. Even when I disagree with an opinion, it’s usually well thought out and well expressed and ultimately, thought-provoking. And that’s very comforting to me. Especially on days when our country seems to be populated by dumbass parrots and sheep. (Sorry, these are not very erudite terms, but they work for me.) Thanks, Kitty.
By Susan B on 08/20/2008 7:21 pm
mary lou s
well said, kitty. do you think alec baldwin in his younger days could fix the economy? or stephen colbert rebuild new orleans and the american infrastructure? or ellen switch the country to renewable energy?
By mary lou s on 08/20/2008 7:03 pm