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Liz Smith | 08/20/2008 9:15 am

That Famous, Insignificant Pitcher of Spit!

Liz Smith

“It ain’t worth a pitcher of hot spit!”

This is how John Nance Garner described the office of the vice president of the United States. But these days it seems to mean more.

I feel the long primary process, running up to the Democratic and GOP conventions, has exhausted potential voters and many are disillusioned. There is definite “buyer’s remorse” over Barack Obama’s nomination and in New York he has dropped over ten points in his lead. John McCain was never a big favorite of the conservative GOP and as he swerved to the right, he erased his attractive maverick image and irritated middle-of-the-road and independent voters.

Both candidates are imperfect. So perhaps the choice of a running mate has never been so important, except for when JFK selected Lyndon Johnson. And while experts keep saying that polls indicate nobody pays attention to the vice-presidential candidate, in this case it matters. The office is a kind of antidote this year to general disillusion. 

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Even when Hillary Clinton isn’t listed anymore as a running mate, people invariably drift into speaking of her or writing her in on many polls. She made quite an impact and many believe Obama should be brave enough to risk alienating some of his supporters because she’d help him in the race.

And I don’t think all that talk about Bill being the 2,000-pound gorilla in the room makes sense. Senator Clinton knows how her husband’s intransigence hurt her campaign. If she became veep I believe he’d be completely sidelined. She has learned her lesson and now is more famous and important than he is.

In a CBS poll of Democratic delegates, taken after the John Edwards debacle, Hillary ended up at 28 percent, Joe Biden had only 6 percent and Evan Bayh, Bill Richardson and, get this, John Edwards, tied at 4 percent each. So like her or not, Hillary is still a player and at the moment may be the most dynamic woman in U.S. history.

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Joe Biden of Delaware seems like Obama’s favorite. He is good-looking, smart, capable and knows international affairs. Of course, he talks too much but lately seems to have “caught on” to his faults. The problem is he is very much a Senate veteran, so forget the “change” idea. He also sucks all the air out of the room. (Shades of Bill Clinton.)

If Obama selects either Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas or Claire McCaskill of Missouri, I don’t think it will help him. Women would say, “Why not Hillary in that case?”

Bill Richardson is a good guy who’d appeal to Latinos but I think he’s made for a cabinet post. He is sincere but not an eloquent speaker. Evan Bayh and Chris Dodd. Come on – way too steadfast, old-fashioned, not meant for the “change” ticket. Virginia hasn’t voted for a Democrat in ages, so Governor Tim Kaine could double down on “change.” He has an important swing state and a chance.

Caroline Kennedy, who is on the selection committee? Well, it’s quite an idea. I don’t know what she’d deliver actually, but she is good-looking, smart, well-educated, rich, connected, very much her own person. No scandal has ever touched her, though people are not crazy about her husband.

She might be an appealing choice – female, impeccable, connected via Uncle “Teddy” and her legendary family name.

83 Reader Comments (so far…) Sign In or Register to comment

Diana T
Hey, Kitty, Maybe we are supposed to evaluate the candidates like they are talking about the ping-pong players. Good bodies, cute smiles, the new litmus test??
By Diana T on 08/21/2008 11:07 pm
James the Game
I’m guessing Hillary Clinton will be Obama’s running mate, and Mitt Romney will be McCain’s. They’re gut feelings, not substantiated by any profound logic. While Liz is right that the VP has been largely window-dressing in the past, I don’t think that’s going to be so much the case this year. Firstly, we’ve seen what a power-broker Dick Cheney has been in the position. Secondly, whoever McCain picks will know more about economics than him, which will be pivotally important. And whoever Obama selects will have more experience than him, particularly in foreign affairs. That’s why the anticipation over the running-mate selections is higher than ever this election cycle.
By James the Game on 08/20/2008 11:35 am
Linda Mason
My comment concerns the notion that an Obama/Clinton ticket would be a “dream” ticket that would be unbeatable in November. Such comments generally go unchallenged, and seem to be accepted as true. But they are not. I realize that HRC’s supporters are grieving a lost dream, and no doubt beating the “unbeatable ticket” drum is comforting, but this notion is a fantasy. If this fantasy helped heal the party, I would not say anything, but this massive exercise in denial has gone on too long and is feeding bogus anger towards Obama if he does not name Clinton as the VP candidate. Contrary to being a “dream ticket,” any ticket with Clinton on it would lead to the ugliest general election ever, and would probably sabotage the Dems. Advocastes of an HRC Vice-presidency forget all the Clinton baggage that the GOP would throw at such a ticket. HRC’s supporters lost sight of this during the primaries, because the other Dems did not go down that road in case she ended up with the nomination. Whatever objections HRC’s supporters have regarding the conduct of the primaries, they would seem like a walk in the park compared to what the GOP would throw at her. It is no secret the GOP was salivating at the prospect of an HRC candidacy to make Billary the real issue in November. Dem strategists know that puttting HRC on the ticket would mean that they would spend the entire campaign on the defensive, fending off GOP attacks on Billary. Which is just what the Republicans wanted. Please, HRC supporters, if you can’t get over your disappointment, can you put it aside, and see the dream ticket for what it is — a fantasy that would be swift-boated by the GOP before we knew what hit us!
By Linda Mason on 08/20/2008 11:45 am
Elise Cabal
As if McCain’s strategists haven’t been “swift-boating” Obama, someone perceived to be without baggage. What about that ridiculous ad equating him with Paris Hilton? What about the criticisms of Obama’s never being to the Middle East. He made the trip and it was a resounding success. And I’m a Clinton fan, and I’m still dreaming the dream because without the hope that Hillary Clinton will have a role to play, I just get downright apathetic about the while process. Nevertheless, I have promised myself that I will vote, and my vote will be for Obama, or more succinctly, a Democratic Executive Branch. BTW, Bill Clinton may have made some big blunders but how the Republicans behaved toward him during his two terms turned me off forever to the Republican party.
By Elise Cabal on 08/20/2008 3:27 pm
beth willis
Linda, I think it is a mistake to think that sentimentality is driving support for Hillary Clinton as VP. Liz Smith has done an excellent analysis of the potential picks, and at this point, I’m thinking that continued talk of Senator Clinton on the ticket is what is making Senator Biden more appealing. Months ago, he was dismissed out of hand for all the reasons Liz Smith mentioned……..he shoots his mouth off with no consideration of collateral damage. His is a tough story, lost his first wife and one or two children in a devastating car wreck when he was a young legislator. He’s from Delaware, that right there may be a drawback, have you ever met anyone from Delaware?(Personally, I’ve always thought Delaware was a rumor). Biden knows foreign policy……effective change can’t happen if the leaders can’t define how we got here; Biden’s been in for the long run. These unknown governors aren’t going to help the Democrats; they will better serve as Democratic leaders in their states. All just my opinion, and here in Texas we say, “Opinions are like a**holes; everybody’s got one.” Did I say that? Peace and grace
By beth willis on 08/20/2008 12:26 pm
Frannie Em
Beth Heh heh heh lol Peas and gravy Beth, peas and gravy
By Frannie Em on 08/21/2008 2:57 pm
DeBúrca obj
Calling all Democrats, check out this link but prepare to be annoyed: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/20/joe-lieberman-will-speak_n_1200…
By DeBúrca obj on 08/20/2008 1:10 pm
Susan B
Everything about Lieberman annoys me, DeBurca!
By Susan B on 08/20/2008 3:21 pm
K O
I can’t get over the fact that he sounds like Elmer Fudd.
By K O on 08/20/2008 6:10 pm
Susan B
Don’t get me started, Kitty. Lieberman sounds like Elmer Fudd, and McCain LOOKs like him! Sorry, I know I’m bashing. My bad.
By Susan B on 08/20/2008 7:32 pm
K O
Well, Susan, I don’t usually like to get involved with name calling, but when I hear that voice, I think ‘I’ll get you, you wascally wabbit!’ and I can’t take him seriously. I’m sorry. It’s not nice. But that’s what’s going on in my evil little mind. bad kitty
By K O on 08/21/2008 3:31 pm
DeBúrca obj
Me too. And him attending the GOP convention is just another on the list. I’ll bet every Democrat in Connecticut who voted for this guy feels like a schmuk… howeverthehell you spell schmuk.
By DeBúrca obj on 08/20/2008 6:17 pm
Susan B
I believe it’s shmuck.
By Susan B on 08/20/2008 7:34 pm
DeBúrca obj
No “c” huh?
By DeBúrca obj on 08/20/2008 11:26 pm
DeBúrca obj
Wait, I see… you just moved the “c” from the front to the back.
By DeBúrca obj on 08/20/2008 11:28 pm