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Liz Smith | 08/20/2008 9:15 am

That Famous, Insignificant Pitcher of Spit!

Liz Smith

“It ain’t worth a pitcher of hot spit!”

This is how John Nance Garner described the office of the vice president of the United States. But these days it seems to mean more.

I feel the long primary process, running up to the Democratic and GOP conventions, has exhausted potential voters and many are disillusioned. There is definite “buyer’s remorse” over Barack Obama’s nomination and in New York he has dropped over ten points in his lead. John McCain was never a big favorite of the conservative GOP and as he swerved to the right, he erased his attractive maverick image and irritated middle-of-the-road and independent voters.

Both candidates are imperfect. So perhaps the choice of a running mate has never been so important, except for when JFK selected Lyndon Johnson. And while experts keep saying that polls indicate nobody pays attention to the vice-presidential candidate, in this case it matters. The office is a kind of antidote this year to general disillusion. 

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Even when Hillary Clinton isn’t listed anymore as a running mate, people invariably drift into speaking of her or writing her in on many polls. She made quite an impact and many believe Obama should be brave enough to risk alienating some of his supporters because she’d help him in the race.

And I don’t think all that talk about Bill being the 2,000-pound gorilla in the room makes sense. Senator Clinton knows how her husband’s intransigence hurt her campaign. If she became veep I believe he’d be completely sidelined. She has learned her lesson and now is more famous and important than he is.

In a CBS poll of Democratic delegates, taken after the John Edwards debacle, Hillary ended up at 28 percent, Joe Biden had only 6 percent and Evan Bayh, Bill Richardson and, get this, John Edwards, tied at 4 percent each. So like her or not, Hillary is still a player and at the moment may be the most dynamic woman in U.S. history.

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Joe Biden of Delaware seems like Obama’s favorite. He is good-looking, smart, capable and knows international affairs. Of course, he talks too much but lately seems to have “caught on” to his faults. The problem is he is very much a Senate veteran, so forget the “change” idea. He also sucks all the air out of the room. (Shades of Bill Clinton.)

If Obama selects either Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas or Claire McCaskill of Missouri, I don’t think it will help him. Women would say, “Why not Hillary in that case?”

Bill Richardson is a good guy who’d appeal to Latinos but I think he’s made for a cabinet post. He is sincere but not an eloquent speaker. Evan Bayh and Chris Dodd. Come on – way too steadfast, old-fashioned, not meant for the “change” ticket. Virginia hasn’t voted for a Democrat in ages, so Governor Tim Kaine could double down on “change.” He has an important swing state and a chance.

Caroline Kennedy, who is on the selection committee? Well, it’s quite an idea. I don’t know what she’d deliver actually, but she is good-looking, smart, well-educated, rich, connected, very much her own person. No scandal has ever touched her, though people are not crazy about her husband.

She might be an appealing choice – female, impeccable, connected via Uncle “Teddy” and her legendary family name.

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Elizabeth Bennett
I broke it the first time skiing when I was nineteen. Nineteen years later, I stumbled when I was helping someone move and I heard a sickening crack. It was the kind of circumstance that made me think that there was no reason I should have broken a bone. I had only stumbled. So I made my docs do a bone density test and it turned out I had osteopenia. The prior break at the same place had also made my ankle more vulnerable. So I don’t ski anymore, and when I help people move, I am much more careful. But that is how I got interested in Vitamin D, because it seemed that a deficiency of D is one of the things that made my bones fragile.
By Elizabeth Bennett on 08/21/2008 8:42 pm
Bonnie Oliver
Elizabeth Bennett - Thanks for the info re Senator Feinstein.
By Bonnie Oliver on 08/21/2008 12:52 am
Elizabeth Bennett
And this is all Biden said: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/19/biden-busts-his-own-buzz/?… I am not sure that means anything. But it might. I still am hoping for a really exciting Veep choice.
By Elizabeth Bennett on 08/20/2008 2:56 pm
Elise Cabal
I am hoping against hope, knowing the odds against are stratospheric, that somehow Hillary will whip out the nomination now that there is Barak buyer’s remorse. At the very least, make her vice president! I never lost interest so quickly in the presidential campaigning process as when she ceded to Barak. I have not watched any speeches by either “presumed” candidate since. It’s all hot air to me now. I’m very disappointed and demoralized, but I WILL VOTE! And it will be for the Democrats, not Barak per se.
By Elise Cabal on 08/20/2008 3:06 pm
Marjorie C.
Thank you Liz Smith for a very fair and informative article. I have no idea who should be vice president for either candidate, but as far as thinking Hillary would be a plus for Obama — would get him over the winning line — I believe it’s too late for that. Much of the Hillary magic has been replaced by disenchantment for too many people. This is one Obama and the Dems will have to win on their own.
By Marjorie C. on 08/20/2008 3:15 pm
mary lou s
believe it or not, marjorie, hillary is one of the dems.
By mary lou s on 08/20/2008 7:16 pm
Buh- Bye
I think the Obama-bile spewed all over Hillary has done irreparable damage to the party. We should not have been divided after the 7 yr. Cheney/Bush/Rumsfeld/Rice debacle. But alas… As for the gorilla in the room (more Team Obama-instigated propaganda.) The man is an amazing statesman and was quite the peacekeeper. A 2 term ex-president shouldn’t be shoved to the back of the closet behind the moth-eaten winter coats, but instead put to good use. It’s a no-brainer that he should be utilized for foreign policy. Wisdom and experience under utilized. Go figure. The kids are running this game. And it ain’t no video game.
By Buh- Bye on 08/21/2008 1:27 am
Marjorie C.
mary lou, Clinton is a Dem who will not make the big difference they’re probably hoping for. I rooted for Hillary and followed her through all the states — I so wanted her to win. I was convinced she was the best candidate of all. Now to hand her the ‘bucket of warm spit’ would be more than I could take — and I’m not alone. It’s Hillary Prez or Hillary Nothing. I hope I’m wrong, but I think the Dems have destroyed Hillary’s chances of ever being president. Her best hope is that McCain wins and she gets another chance in 4 years, otherwise, in a country where ageism and sexism is alive in well, her goose is cooked.
By Marjorie C. on 08/21/2008 7:16 am
Buh- Bye
sadly I agree with you Marjorie, kicking those sexist creeps in the party to the curb is the CHANGE I want
By Buh- Bye on 08/21/2008 11:02 am
Chrome Toe
Thanks Phyllis… I may have to change my comments on another thread about what we’d have on our headstones from “buck up” to “misquoted by Liz Smith when she wasn’t even famous” LOL
By Chrome Toe on 08/20/2008 3:23 pm
~ countrywoman ~
Mercy, honeychild…..that Liz!
Here is something I left for her last week and the next thing I know she has started the conversation to which you are referring: “WowOwow Liz….you actually read our posts?? Does it make you smile when you find a “who cares” comment posted on page 4?” (8/14) Why, she didn’t even mention the source for her great story idea! I better click over and post on the “tombstone” thread:
“Bye-Bye 15 Minutes of Fame”
;-}
By ~ countrywoman ~ on 08/20/2008 4:11 pm
Elizabeth Bennett
How did you end up with the “Honeychild” aka? Did someone give you that nickname? I feel there is a story here. Whether you are famous or not.
By Elizabeth Bennett on 08/20/2008 6:36 pm
Buh- Bye
gosh I just assumed Romney would be McCain’s choice. wonder who it will be. some dyed-in-the-wool Republicans I know absolutely loved Romney but he sure did come off as insincere during the primaries, didn’t he? Romney gives McCain the economy cred he needs tho, so maybe voters will forgive the Mormon thing
By Buh- Bye on 08/21/2008 1:17 am
Marjorie C.
My Alias: About Romney… I wouldn’t mind him as V.P. as long as he stayed V.P. Romney is not for the little guy. At all. He would have no qualms buying up a struggling company, downsize it to turn a profit, then layoff half the workforce. That would be good business to him. Under his hand, social programs like social security, medicare, poverty programs, etc. might get fine tuned. He launched a universal healthcare program in Massachusetts, but left before working out the funding details. Current Governor, Deval Patrick (a friend of Obama’s) is struggling to keep the program financed. Romney just bought a new home in California (his fourth), I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t run for governor since Schwarzenegger has reached the term limit. Other than his somewhat cold heart, he probably would be a good choice as V.P. I’ll pray daily for McCain’s health.
By Marjorie C. on 08/21/2008 2:41 pm
Buh- Bye
totally agree Marjorie (my hero) I didn’t hear Romney had bought a home in CA tho. Oooh, bad news for us. they always think long term those old school Republicans
By Buh- Bye on 08/22/2008 1:19 am