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Liz Smith | 02/26/2009 11:00 pm

Liza Minnelli Tells All to Liz Smith

Liza Minnelli on her mother’s legacy, marriages, retirement (never?!) and more …
Parade Magazine

Editor’s Note: The following story is reprinted by permission of Parade Magazine, and appears in their March 1 issue. Here’s a peek at what’s to come — plus tidbits too big to make it into the magazine. Click here to see the fabulous Parade layout and photos of the legendary performer.

"If you’ve got one foot in yesterday, and one foot in tomorrow, you’re pissing all over today!"

That’s Liza Minnelli, more or less summing up her amazing resilience, her ability to live in the now. The great star — the Oscar, Tony, Emmy and Grammy winner — who describes herself simply as "a modern vaudevillian," is fresh off her triumphant five-week run at the legendary Palace Theater on Broadway. This is the very spot where her mother, Judy Garland, made history — not once, not twice, but three times. Liza herself played the Palace in 1999 in a show that paid homage to her father, film director Vincente Minnelli.

"Liza’s at the Palace" (now out on CD) was conceived in part as a tribute to her entertainer/author godmother Kay Thompson, whose performing style influenced many an MGM star, including Miss Garland — Judy appropriated a passel of Thompson gestures and cadences. Kay Thompson is best remembered today as the author of the "Eloise" books. (But check out the movie "Funny Face" with Fred Astaire and Audrey Hepburn to see Kay in glorious action, singing "Think Pink.")

I’ve known Liza many years. I’ve seen — and even helped see her through — some of her well-publicized travails. The marriages to Peter Allen, Jack Haley Jr., Mark Gero and — gulp! — David Gest that ended, inevitably, in divorce; the substance-abuse issues, which dogged her for years. What strikes me always is this girl’s ability to banish the blues, bury the bad and start out all over again. (Yes, she is still girlish and fresh at 62.)

When Liza walks into a room or appears, a dazzling figure onstage, I seem to hear the lyrics of the song "Optimistic Voices" from "The Wizard of Oz." We are, all of us, Munchkins, singing: "You’re out of the woods, you’re out of the dark, you’re out of the night/Step into the sun, step into the light/Hold onto your heart/Hold onto your hope."

Liza has, over and over again, stepped into the light and held onto her heart and hope. That is the empowerment she delivers to her audience.

Yet, what most journalists still want from Liza is a temporary abandonment of hope, so that she can tell The Shocking Truth of her life. The tell-all interview. The myth-shattering memoir. So silly. Why? Because over the course of 40 years, Liza has told that tale — in increments, with humor, with a wry nod indicating, "Please be smart enough to read between the lines." She’s gone as far as she’ll go. It is not in her nature to look back in anger or sadness. And it’s not an act. When you meet her at her best you’ll find nothing irrational about her optimism. She has a naked need for approval, and she always receives it. How can you not help build her up, and give her what she must have to go on? 

24 Reader Comments (so far…) Sign In or Register to comment

Denise L
We are Liza fans - forever. She is always beautiful, always gives her best and never fails to entertain. She makes us smile and sing.
By Denise L on 02/27/2009 12:36 am
bruce bellingham
A lovely piece on Liza, Ms. Smith. You give the reader a chance to have a spot of tea with you both — and Diana Ross. No one is better at this stuff than you. You are as inimitable and as indefatigable as Liza. Good on you.
By bruce bellingham on 02/27/2009 1:04 am
joan larsen

Now that is a great interview.  And what makes it work, makes it so readable is, sitting there, are two people who know each other well.  I think Liz would say:  we can ‘dish’ as only good friends can without putting up the barriers.  There is a distinct knack in doing that - as we all know - with anyone.  Liz cares, listens, records, and we get the essence of the person.

Liza has always been a show-stopper … but then our Liz is also a one-of-a-kind show-stopper in her own right.  Great story — but what else would be expect!!!

By joan larsen on 02/27/2009 4:35 am
Midwest Mom
I totally agree with Joan.  After reading this I am so impressed with & inspired by both Liz & Liza.  What a great thing article to start my day with.  Thank you Liz.
By Midwest Mom on 02/27/2009 8:03 am
rocky rocky
Exactly what Midweset Mom said! Plus — you managed to keep me reading to the end, Liz. Quite a feat, I’d say. Now off to the MDs …
By rocky rocky on 02/27/2009 8:40 am
Grande Camper
Liza!  I would LOVE to see her live.  In this economy right now that is not going to happen for me.  Oh’ but Liza is something, she is one talent women.  How I would live to see her in a show.
By Grande Camper on 02/27/2009 10:13 am
Lauriate Roly

Such a great article.  It’s a Liz Smith article and like all of the other Liz Smith articles I have read over the years, its another showbiz gem, that will always be regarded as authentic, creative non-fiction, of the kind that researchers will totally depend upon when rewriting history.  Liz Smith has always been a master in this field.

By Lauriate Roly on 02/27/2009 4:55 pm
Mary Utrup
Liza Minelli is a first class survivor. Just look at how she has been able to create a successful life for herself despite the many bumps in the road she’s had to face up to. She hasn’t always made the best choices in the world as far as marriage is concerned, but look at the background she came from. Her poor mother was put on meds to keep her going through movie after movie. She most probably had the best shot at happiness with Liza’s dad, but the pattern had been set. Addiction, especially in those days, was a real death sentence. One of my fondest memories from my younger days was being on a trip with family members. I think we were in Macy’s, I’m going through a rack of clothes, on sale, I look across the rack and there is LIZA MINELLI. I was so shook up, being that close to a famous performer, I tore off to find my family and tell them. I never saw her again, but I’ve never forgotten it either. Long live Liza with a Z
By Mary Utrup on 02/27/2009 8:25 pm
Bonnie Oliver
I also read the article to the very end.  If even half of what has been written about Liza’s mother is true, one would think that at least some of the anxieties and self doubts, are inherited.  A great moment in time, sharing afternoon tea with Liza Minnelli.  Thank you, Liz.
By Bonnie Oliver on 02/28/2009 1:52 am
Beth Cornell
Great piece Ms Smith. Welcome to wowowow. 
By Beth Cornell on 03/01/2009 10:06 am
Cathryn Golden
Great interview, Liz! I’ve always admired Liza for her immense talent and unwavering ability to bounce back—lessons well learned. (I would love to reach her and help her with her greatest fear: organizing closets.) Then I read about Liz’s "relocation", which brought me to this wonderful website! I am a Certified Professional Organizer and have been doing this literally all of my life—it is MY Carnegie Hall to perform magic with those who are organizationally challeneged.  If there is a way to pass this on to her, please do—it would be an honor to help Liza with a Z!!!
By Cathryn Golden on 03/01/2009 5:24 pm
Rita Schiano

Hi Liz…This article brought me back to a wonderful spring night in 1987…It was Liza’s opening night at Carnegie Hall. My girlfriend bought me the tickets  as a birthday gift. We dressed to the nines, arrived early and positioned ourselves in the mezzanine balcony to watch the glitterati arrive. I remember someone resting an elbow on my shoulder and saying,"You girls have the best view in the house." I turned to see who it was…it was you, Liz. You stayed a few moments and chatted with us. I never forgot it…Your warmth and humor made our night even more precious.

By Rita Schiano on 03/04/2009 7:13 pm
nanchan u

I love Liza!  I saw her in concert a few years back because a friend of mine "in the Biz" gave me backstage passes to a show, so how could I refuse?  Until then, I was not really a fan.  It was during the height of the David Gest bru-ha-ha and we were kind of curious what she would be like.  She was MAGIC!

People love people like Liza because they are survivors and ultimately an inspiration to all of us that we too can survive what life throws at us.  And look what it has thrown her way:  she is an icon.  But she also works darn hard and anybody who has ever seen her in concert knows it.

Go, Liza, GO!  Keep kickin’ up those heels and singin’ those songs.  We love you.   Thanks, Liz for a great interview.

By nanchan u on 03/05/2009 8:53 pm
Patricia Sprofera
Two great dames together again.  Kudos to Miss Liz and Miss Liza.
By Patricia Sprofera on 03/05/2009 9:10 pm