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Liz Smith | 04/03/2008 3:32 pm

Judith's Selection Beat All the Others to Pieces

Liz Smith
It is a pleasure to serve on this website with Judith Martin, a woman who notes the way we wear our hats and sip our tea. (She is “Miss Manners,” the etiquette columnist in other venues.) But here she toys with us intellectually.

Her posting the other day asked If You Could Go Back in Time, Whose Life Would You Choose to Live?

Judith asked this question with the idea that heroic souls might not necessarily be the answer. “The idea was pleasure not glory,” she wrote, saying she would withhold her own choice for a day to hear what viewers thought. But she gave two hints: “Literary. Pioneer.”

Viewers proved themselves quite thoughtful. They guessed The Little House on the Prairie author Laura Ingalls Wilder … Dorothy Parker … J.K. Rowling … Charlotte Bronte (though she died young) … Anne Boleyn and Marie Antoinette (though they lost their heads) … Jackie Onassis (though she died an untimely death) … Amelia Earhart (though she was lost at sea in World War II) … Jane Austin … Emily Dickinson … Madame Recamier … Georges Sand.

But Judith’s selection beat them all to pieces. She was thinking of Madame de Stael!

This woman was Swiss, made her home in France and was a writer — an intellectual, presiding as hostess over a magnificent salon of artists and deep-thinkers. Politically involved and controversial — she dared to challenge Napoleon. She did die young, at age 51. Some thought she had injured her health by “excessive study and intellectual excitement.” Five years before her death she married an army man who was 23 years her junior. (You know, intellectual excitement only counts for so much.)

Reading Judith’s answer and suffering from not having thought of it myself, I did remember suddenly a lovely anecdote. Lawrence Olivier complained bitterly to Noel Coward about Marilyn Monroe, his co-star in “The Prince and the Showgirl.” One day Noel was sitting with the wicked wit Clifton Webb at a small table which they were sharing with Marilyn. The actress, possibly picking up on Coward’s disdain, was monosyllabic.

Later, Coward would comment: “Not exactly Madame de Stael, is she?”

Note: Don’t forget to read my syndicated column!!

14 Reader Comments (so far…) Sign In or Register to comment

Barbara Taylor
Thanks, I needed that laugh.
By Barbara Taylor on 04/03/2008 4:40 pm
Buh-Bye Hillary Hillary Buh-Bye
Thanks for the great piece, Liz. Noel Coward was divine…and true, MM wasn’t Madame de Stael…but then Madame de Stael couldn’t have done this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0FDGnAIWpk Thankfully there’s room in this world for everything.
By Buh-Bye Hillary Hillary Buh-Bye on 04/03/2008 5:08 pm
Jozie Lee
Right on, Suzanne!
By Jozie Lee on 04/03/2008 6:16 pm
Simmy Sussman
If we go to the 20th century we find Simone de Beauvoir,Carson McCullers,Harper Lee,Lillian Hellman,Katherine Ann Porter,Doris Lessing,Betty Freidan,Sylvia Plath, and on and on. Before there were many like Edith Wharton, Eliot,Austen,Bronte, and in the salons Jenny Jerome. Politically George Sand was powerful,and Madame de certainly made a contribution to being a great saloniste. And Abigail Adams did in her own way. But Liz, your piece was terrif.
By Simmy Sussman on 04/03/2008 8:43 pm
Josie Sullivan
Suzanne- Hee hee… I haven’t seen that scene in years. Thanks!
By Josie Sullivan on 04/03/2008 5:35 pm
Karen Hittinger
Yes, but did Madame de Stael put out? When it comes to women that’s all men really care about anyway, isn’t it?
By Karen Hittinger on 04/03/2008 6:46 pm
Buh-Bye Hillary Hillary Buh-Bye
Karen….Yes…..Madame de S was ultra brainy and a notorious romantic adventurer.
By Buh-Bye Hillary Hillary Buh-Bye on 04/03/2008 10:26 pm
Mugsy Peabody
But she did not come cheap.
By Mugsy Peabody on 04/04/2008 2:39 am
Suzanne Frazier
Karen….I wouldn’t say Madame de Stael “put out”, I would say she found a long line of men who satisfied her needs and desires. She was quite a woman. I read two biographies on her life and from her point of view the French Revolution had a different accounting. She was a fabulous woman for her age. And shall we say, she didn’t leave “one stone unturned”. She had a full life as an adventurist, traveler, writer, poet, and she certainly tried to change history. She was a woman before her time. Let’s say, she wasn’t invited into conservative church circles to quilt.
By Suzanne Frazier on 04/04/2008 11:03 am
Debbie S
Loved the anecdote, Liz. You’ve piqued my curiosity to learn more. Literary advocates of today should check out www.edithwharton.org. Maybe we can all help.
By Debbie S on 04/03/2008 6:52 pm
beth willis
My vanity has been sufficently boosted today with a personal welcome and hair day procrastination. Unfortunately, my hair is undaunted by numbers and has always been dramatically affected by rising temperatures and humidity. The bandana remains my fashion statement. Well, you know, Liz Smith, what Fort Worth sends forth in spring. Argyle is just 30 miles north…not enough to make a signicant difference. I always read your column, Liz Smith, and bore new acquaintances with the thin line we share: Paschal High. Thank you for my welcome to your website and the opportunity to interact with the clever and the compassionate.
By beth willis on 04/03/2008 10:15 pm
Mugsy Peabody
If anyone is near enough to Red Cloud, Nebraska, by all means, go! They’ve got the entire town held as though in amber at the time period when Willa Cather and her family lived there. My Antonia’s house is there, for example, all the sites of her novels. The people on whose lives she based her characters are all buried in the local cemetery. And the Nature Conservancy has preserved a large hunk of the virgin prairie so one can actually see what the pioneers faced. I was fascinated, because I’d always heard my great grandmother went insane from the sound of the wind across the prairie. Once I’d been there, I finally understood.
By Mugsy Peabody on 04/04/2008 2:37 am
CAROLINE MuLVEY
Thank-You Liz. I keep learning new and wonderful things on this site. I just loved it!
By CAROLINE MuLVEY on 04/04/2008 8:17 am
Susie Q
Hi I’m Susie, based here in England. Thanks to our fabulous newspaper The Sunday Times, I have at last found a grown - up ,intellectually stimulating and thoroughly enjoyable woman s site. I visit every day, several times a day. Thank you ladies , from the bottom of my heart. Love Susie Q
By Susie Q on 04/08/2008 3:01 pm