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Liz Smith | 07/08/2008 2:35 pm

Is the Music Over for Madonna and Her Guy?

Liz Smith

“You push me when I don’t appreciate/you push me not to lie and not to hate/you push me when I want it all to end/you push me when I really need a friend.”

These are the lyrics to Madonna’s song, “Push,” from her 2006 “Confessions on a Dancefloor” album. It was a tribute to her husband, Guy Ritchie. That music may be ending now.

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Well, it certainly took Cynthia Rodriguez — now busy maxing out her hubby’s credit cards — a long time to admit that she doesn’t believe Madonna and Alex had a sexual affair, but “an affair of the heart.” There is a significant difference, folks. It can be seen as betrayal, yes, but if it doesn’t go that extra step, then both parties have put on the brakes.

Here’s the deal: Alex has been in an unhappy marriage for some time. (Ever see Cynthia and Alex interact? Not a cheerful duo.) He has behaved, according to rumors and strippers, without much discretion or concern. At age 32, he’s no kid. It is likely he began to wonder if there was a way to alter his behavior and his life.

Enter Madonna. Even before kabbalah, the pop icon was a finger-wagging “do as I say … I know best” kind of woman. (I always said if she hadn’t gone into show biz, she’d have ended up as Miss Ciccone, the very strict English teacher.) Once immersed in the mysticism of kabbalah, which promises less “chaos” and a freedom from ego, Madonna became quite the proselytizer. (She has said, repeatedly, that freeing herself from her ego has been a massive, often failed struggle. But she keeps on trying.)

So she met Alex. They talked. Perhaps he unburdened himself on the state of his marriage. Madonna listened, brought out the big guns of kabbalah and told him it could help change his life. I don’t doubt there was a personal attraction on both sides. He is very much her “type,” or certainly was back in the day — before Guy Ritchie. And despite the ghastly paparazzi pics of late — and Madonna’s incredibly bad sense of style featuring lacy knickers and high heels — she remains, in person, appealing and beautiful. So there was probably plenty of sexual tension. But that doesn’t mean consummation. As the old vaudeville line goes, “Vaz you dere, Charlie?” I wasn’t, so I’m sure not betting the rent one way or another. But I honestly do not believe Madonna would carry on an affair in front of her three children, in her own home.

Just like millions of “regular” folks, they found out that perhaps they’d misunderstood the ground rules. Or didn’t realize any were needed. 

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As for Guy Ritchie, he came to New York and has suffered agonies few men could endure. The headlines have been battering. I think the marriage is hanging by a thread, but neither wants to give up just yet. They entered into their wedlock with high hopes and expectations. And just like millions of “regular” folks, they found out that perhaps they’d misunderstood the ground rules. Or didn’t realize any were needed.  

The rumor mill insists they will split in November after Madonna’s tour ends. Huh? Like people won’t go see Madonna if she’s separated from Guy? It’s not like he’s part of the act. If she wanted it over, he’d be gone. Still and all, she wrote that song, quote above, two years ago, and someplace it continues to resonate: “Every race I win/every mood I’m in/Everything I do, I owe it all to you.”

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Laurel Bowman
I may be in the minority here, but I always hope the best for any marriage. Divorce is not fun for anyone and Madonna and Guy have children. I hope they work it out. As for A-Rod, I never heard of him until this story hit the news.
By Laurel Bowman on 07/09/2008 1:52 am
Maggi D
o.k. - I will be the odd-man-out. I think Madonna is a hellava performer. She has a great voice and knows how to put on a show. I don’t listen to her much because my music taste is alittle more mellow but damn the lady knows how to sing. The rest of it is just juicy gossip for those who enjoy such things.
By Maggi D on 07/09/2008 4:34 am
kermie b
Maggi—I loved her in Desperately Seeking Susan.
By kermie b on 07/19/2008 2:58 am
beth willis
Being from the land of the Rangers, baseball organization, only success Dubya ever had , Alex Rodriguez was not particularly popular here in the metroplex, primarily because Tom Hicks paid 250 million dollars for Rodriquez..Still, no one supporting a championship ring around here. Supposedly, he began to believe his own publicity. As for Madonna, she needs to look at some divas like Patti LaBelle and Tina Turner who have stayed relevant well into their sixties. Alex is no match for Madonna. Peace and grace
By beth willis on 07/09/2008 8:46 am
HA BIBI
WHO CARES!!!
By HA BIBI on 07/09/2008 12:01 pm
beth willis
Please quit yelling. The lady asked a question, and I answered it. Peace and grace
By beth willis on 07/09/2008 12:05 pm
HA BIBI
Beth, Who,s yelling? Liz asked a question and we too are answering it. Again for me. WHO CARES!
By HA BIBI on 07/09/2008 12:12 pm
beth willis
Elaine, I was taught that all caps indicates yelling. Perhaps I was misinformed. If all caps does not indicate yelling, please let me know what it does mean? Goodness knows my computer language/skills can always stand improvement . Peace and grace
By beth willis on 07/09/2008 12:48 pm
Lady Gator
Yo Beth —-I almost had my all caps on too. Who cares about Miss Madonna. You mentioned Tina Turner . I sorta think of Lena Horne — a lady with a wonderful sultry voice — How about Natalie Cole— the lady can rock — and ,all the two of them did was wear an incredible long gown and sing there hearts out. They didn’t have to have those tin “booby” things sticking out to make a statement - they WERE the statement. And how about Eretha? - Ella Fitzgerald? Madonna, in my mind, can never even come close.
By Lady Gator on 07/09/2008 2:28 pm
beth willis
Lady Gator, we share similar tastes in music. Actually, I couldn’t name a single song from Madonna. The ladies you’ve mentioned are legends. We saw Tina Turner in Dallas during her first “retirement tour”. We always show up for Patti in Dallas and as far away as Shreveport. James Brown was my main man when I was growing up. BB King, Sam and Dave, Gladys Knight. My mom and I saw Diana Ross on opening night in Las Vegas, that was almost 40 years ago. Ella Fitzgerald singing,”They’re Writing Songs of Love, but not for Me”, Rufus Thomas…..and on and on. Not that I don’t appreciate other singers, but my taste always ran toward soul. And I was reared in a segregated environment, and I wasn’t a minority. Yes to Ms. Lena, Natalie Cole, Nancy Wilson Peace and grace
By beth willis on 07/09/2008 4:29 pm
Lady Gator
Beth —-Saw Diana Ross in Vegas also. Gee, maybe we were in the same room! After all, it is a “small world”. You mention Nancy Wilson — my husband has everything she ever made. The biggest thrill of my life was the evening we saw, in concert, Ella and Frank Sinatra. I love the blues —love to go to New Orleans and just sit and listen to the Blues and the jazz. My hubby and I are also very big jazz fans. Oscar Peterson comes to mind, along with so many others. We were both born and reared in the south and we were also not minorities (sp). I always said that soul music was for the soul. And, Jazz — there is absolutely nothing as fine as sitting at a piano bar with a good female jazz singer. And, this really ages me - however, I love music from the 40’s (inherited from my parents) and music from the 50’s. My favorite era — such good memories. Such good times! Here’s to beautiful music!
By Lady Gator on 07/10/2008 9:51 am
beth willis
Lady G., we had a glorious evening with Fort Worth’s own contribution to the Great White Way Betty Buckley.Her performance included stories about her experiences on Broadway and then songs from those shows. “Memory” is her signature song as she was Grazilla, kind of the Norma Desmond of the cat world in the Broadway musical of the same name. We were on the front row and then transcended to some higher realm through the song interpretation, she doesn’t just sing it. she becomes the music. I wish you could have been there. We love the music from the ‘30’s and ‘40’s as well. Diana Krall, Michael Buble, and, believe it or not Rod Stewart have some great CDs of standards. Natalie Cole, too, as you mentioned. I can only imagine what it must have been like to be in the presence of Ella and Frank. You know, one of these Ladies of WOW was a personal friend of Lena Horne; maybe she will share some of those experiences with us……….actually, this Lady knew/knows everyone whose name has appeared in print. We’ll watch for the concert dates for Tina, “We Don’t Need Another Hero” Turner. Have a wonderful weekend, LG. Peace and grace
By beth willis on 07/12/2008 12:03 pm
HA BIBI
Hi beth, I don’t know wether or not that caps are indicative of yelling per computer speak, I simply use caps as emphasis. Nothing more, nothing less. I saw your post after my posting of WHO CARES and I thought that perhaps you thought I was responding to what you had posted……I thought…. Gosh, I hope she didn’t think my post was referring to hers. When I reply to someones post I’ll click on reply at the bottom of their post and respond accordingly otherwise I’ll just finish the article and post my response at the top of the page just under the article. When you post on reply to someones comment it automaticaly slots in under their post in the order it was recieved. If you comment at the top of the page under the article it gets sloted in as the last comment posted.So with that being said, I think you may have thought my comment was referring to your post when in fact it was not, adding to the fact that you thought caps was indicitive of yelling, I could see how you may have thought I was addressing you.And if that be the case then I commend you for asking me without going on an assumption that I was yelling. Perhaps a long winded explanation but there seems to be an undercurrent of defensiveness on this web site and perhaps it is due to the fact that people get a little heated in their debate but more so I feel it is due to people insulting others for their posting…… Now please don’t think I am addressing you in this regard, I’m totally not. Sometimes people on this site come down on or take the role of feeling that they have to correct people’s comments i.e…. spell check,grammatics and even what they think others should or should not say. Needless to say, I think people should just “live and let live”. Let folks say what they need to say without the pettiness of feeling like they have to moinitor others by correcting everything they say and or in how it is said. I firmly believe that name calling and telling folks to shut up in any manner is off limits and should not be tolerated.The beauty is we have the Dutchess of Delete for that kind of stuff. I’m talking, “PEOPLE”…….”Just write your posts and or replys and leave everyone else alone to write theirs. Someone once posted on here that this is not Tolstoy, It’s a blog site. I can’t remember who it was but thought it was absolutely fantastic. I can’t stress enough the need for people to just LIVE & LET LIVE! Peace and Grace to you as well.
By HA BIBI on 07/09/2008 2:33 pm
Maggi D
Elaine - I couldn’t agree with you more. I get so tired of the snippiness of some of the posts. “Agree with me or your stupid and your words are worthless” seems to be the gist of some responses. I am amazed that women of a certain age don’t have more tolerance for other people’s opinions. My mother use to say “Even Hitler was loved by his mother” (which I am sure will make several people’s hair stand on end.) The same goes for the posts degrading the author of some article. If we don’t agree with what is said, why can’t we just say “I don’t agree with this point of view. I think such and such” without calling the author some kind of scurvy dog. IMHO it is just juvenile. Even Dr. K deserves to write what he wants - I usely just skip his posts. Anyway - enough rambling, just wanted to let you know I think you have a VERY good point.
By Maggi D on 07/09/2008 3:01 pm
HA BIBI
Maggie, What more can I say….Luv ya!
By HA BIBI on 07/10/2008 2:26 pm