Post | 05/13/2008 10:43 am

Mario Cuomo to Liz Smith: Dems Must Get Out of the Way! An Obama-Clinton Ticket Is a Thrilling Possibility

Liz Smith

The following is the text of an e-mail, from former New York Democratic Gov. Mario Cuomo, which I received this morning.

-Liz


‘Complete the Process …’

By Mario M. Cuomo

Question: Should Hillary Clinton abandon her campaign because to continue would hurt Obama’s chances in the general election?

The Obama supporters argue that strict adherence to the rules of the primary process would deny Clinton delegates from the Florida and Michigan races and that his current advantage in pledged votes is enough to make him a virtual winner, notwithstanding there are still a number of states that haven’t yet voted.

Senator Clinton responds by reminding us that strict adherence to the rules also indicates that none of the pledges count until they are given as votes at the convention. She believes she has a better chance to defeat McCain than Obama does, and it’s still possible ─ even if not likely ─ that events between now and then might convince voters she’s right.

Clinton supporters overwhelmingly continue to urge her to stay in the race and she is committed to doing so until the entire process set forth in the rules has been completed.

How will this affect the Democrats’ chances in November?

In all likelihood, most of the supporters of the unsuccessful Democratic candidate will probably vote for the winner because of their eagerness to win back the presidency, but even a loss of 10 to 15 percent of their votes could cost the Democrats a victory in a close race on November 4th. That makes poll results that indicate that 40 or 50 percent of the Clinton constituency will not vote for Obama should he be the winner something to worry about. And that number would increase if they were further aggravated by Clinton being forced out of the race by pressure from the Obama camp.

Similarly, significant numbers of Obama supporters would not vote for Hillary against McCain.

89 Reader Comments (so far…)

Renata

With all due respect, Governor Cuomo is conflicted. His son, NY Attorney General, was a member of the Clinton Cabinet. And, he did not run for the Presidency when millions literally begged him to.

Barack Obama will make his own selection, based upon his own criteria and those of TRUSTED advisors — independent of the gamesmanship and increasing pressure of Clinton OPERATIVES and SUPPORTERS.

Senator Clinton has the NY politicians in her camp. They WILL not pressure Barack Obama. Further, HRC has devalidated Senator Obama as President in favor of John McCain.

Perhaps, Governor Cuomo will want to give John McCain a call, since Hlllary/Bill (yes, they are fused) have already validated him — and have basically been running HIS General Election Campaign for him during the Democratic Nomination process?

Go for it Hill!

By Renata on 05/13/2008 11:29 am
E F

I agree with Governor Cuomo.

By E F on 05/13/2008 1:02 pm
beth willis

I do as well, Elizabeth. It has, for some time been my story: Clinton/Obama, and, for this reason, should Clinton serve as president, Obama has 8 years to travel the globe as an ambassador to bring about the respect and goodwill we have shamelessly set a flame as a nation. In addition, Obama”s opportunity to bring change to America would be strengthened in two terms as vice-president. To take office as president now, limits him to 8 years. Sixteen years will see his daughters graduate from high school, an experience that requires hands-on supervision by concerned parents. Such insight wii have a pervasive, possitive effect on the national educational agenda. Clinton and Obama can make their partnership work if one iota of their glittering rhetoric for their dreams for America are true. Like a srar-spangled bumper broadcasting the duo, Clinto/Obama OR ObamaClinton will become as comfortable and cunning as Roosevelt/Truman.That took some time and work, too, as I recall.
Peace and grace

By beth willis on 05/13/2008 3:41 pm
Michael Salling

With all due respect, Renata, the fact that Hillary is under such pressure to withdraw has more to do with sexism than anything else. There is no male candidate who was in a race this close who was EVER harassed in the way she has been to submit. Do you remember Huckabee’s crusade? Clinton’s supporters should exert exactly the same amount of pressure on Obama to choose her as she would have been to choose him.
Regarding the ridiculous dynasty talking point, Bill Clinton’s second term was stolen from him by Gingrich, Lieberman, and their ilk, who have never stopped swiftboating him with their lies about his failure to liquidate Obama, etc. Who was screaming about the dynasty issue in the 2000 issue? I can never recall hearing it from any source. Were the Bush’s somehow entitled, but the poor white trash from Arkansas are not?

By Michael Salling on 05/14/2008 4:47 am
Donna Wilson

As a 57 year old female, I have waited my entire life to have a qualified female presidential candidate. I want more than anything to see Hilary get the nomination at the Democratic convention. In both Hilary and Obama I see two of the most qualified candidates I have seen in a long, long time. I have always believed that an Hilary/Obama ticket would be unstoppable. These are two brilliant thinkers that know that they are not demi-gods like the people in the current administration. Both of these candidates are smart enough to know that they don’t know everything and will trust the people they pick to work with them unlike the current Washington leaders who listen to no one. I have spent my entire life watching the 20 year female bank employee training the young male new hire who will be rewarded with both a position higher than hers, making much more money. I have shopped at store noticing that 98% of the employees are female but all of the managers are male. I have faithfully told my daughter and granddaughters that they could be anything they wanted to be knowing the whole time that it is not always the case. Hilary Clinton is who I voted for in my state’s primaries. She is my choice for president in November, but I am not idiotic enough to say that if Obama gets the nomination, I will vote for McCain. For the last 8 years I have watched an administration in Washington with no compassion for anyone except big business. That has done nothing but line their own pockets. Who has never cared about the middle class much less the poor. They have sacrificed other people husbands, wives, sons, daughters, fathers and mothers for this ridiculous war in Iraq. The Republicans have spent 8 years never listening to the citizens of this country about anything. The arrogance, corruption and lack of compassion by Washington has taken a huge toll on all areas of this country. Anyone who thinks a huge change is not needed is dillusional. I cannot think of any better way to bring a different perspective to Washington D.C. and to bring a different perception of the United States to the rest of world than by electing a presidential/vice-presidential ticket that has a white woman and black man.

By Donna Wilson on 05/15/2008 10:26 pm
Renata

A former Governor who shrank from running himself when we BEGGED him to do so, should not pressure a man who did, from a running start w/out any support from the establishment — and is winning — to do anything.

The Clinton DYNASTY is over. That is most unfortunate for those who are part of it.

By Renata on 05/13/2008 11:35 am
zut alors

I predict the likelihood of Senator Obama selecting HRC as his running mate is Zero.

Since he has to agree with the DNC opting to pay her $20M campaign debt. The bargaining chips are in his hands to pay off her debts and have her accept something that will garner her support, while not creating a distraction in the general election.

I am CERTAIN that this will happen for one simple reason. His #1 concern in selection of top advisors, after brains and political chops, was that they were non-drama.

By zut alors on 05/13/2008 2:42 pm
Renata

The payoff tab (and, I can’t believe we are discussing HRC in these terms — but why not, since that’s all it really comes down to?) will be double or triple the $20mil. They have no shame. Question? Why aren’t her supporters funding her Campaign???

By Renata on 05/13/2008 3:14 pm
My Alias

Once again Renata. A dynasty is a line of hereditary rulers of a country. The Bushes qualify, the Clintons do not. A husband and wife who both came together because of a shared interest in politics is not the same as the handing down of leadership from offspring to offspring. Stop parroting that lame propaganda.

By My Alias on 05/13/2008 4:58 pm
zut alors

Dynasty happens to have more than one connotation including “Members of a family who are distinguished for their success, wealth.” The Clintons are a family and the Clinton Dynasty as a term gets wide play as here on the Washington Post. http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2007/07/clinton_defends_the_clinto…

It’s not lame, nor propaganda, nor parroting-but a fact and one worth discussing.
As it is on venues from traditional to pop culture:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJNJUrSg_lI

By zut alors on 05/13/2008 6:13 pm
beth willis

The Carringtons and the Ewings are the only dynasties I recall. Can two count as a dynasty

By beth willis on 05/13/2008 7:53 pm
beth willis

The Carringtons and the Ewings are the only dynasties I recall. Can two count as a dynasty?

By beth willis on 05/13/2008 7:53 pm
Alessan O

That remark about a dynasty is stupid, and it’s the craziest
thing I have ever heard. There has been no dynasty, Bill
Clinton served for limited time, elected twice. WHAT DYNASTY, I think you and others that hate the Clintons are confused, two Bushes, have served as President, that more of a dynasty. But then John Adams, served the county and so did his son. This is America, not Europe.

By Alessan O on 05/14/2008 12:42 am
Shirley Budhos

Indeed, Renata, I agree with you. I’m verbose, but this time I’m cutting it short.

By Shirley Budhos on 06/09/2008 4:54 pm
Beachlady ydalhcaeB

My vote in November will be strongly affected by the way the Barack team treats, or mistreats Hillary.

And I have always voted straight Dem ALWAYS. Hubby, too, is on the same wave length as I, strong dems, and strong Hillary supporters. Wavering and waiting to see what occurs next…..

By Beachlady ydalhcaeB on 05/13/2008 11:36 am
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